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Alpha
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Alpha
I did offer to fully fund an expedition to Tito, as long as he paid for all the consents to be approved first, to go to Antarctica. But he probably thought I was joking. I'm serious, the offer still stands to anyone. I'm happy to set up joint accounts, with whoever is interested, with joint authority and access, and deposit 10 to 20 thousand, once all consents to be approved. But now I would prefer to travel North. But either way, if anyone is keen, to go either north or south, let me know, get all the consents approved so we are able to explore freely and we are on.
Yeah Alpha... but in actuality, what would that prove? Say we went to the North Pole (let's just call it that for the sake of having something to call it). Flat Earthers do not believe the Earth is a globe, hence no poles exist, only more and more flat land. Compass readings would be useless. The huge circumference of the Earth (to us globers) makes it difficult to point out the globe shape of the Earth without resorting to the old horizon argument. We'd surely have to continue our journey down the other side of the Earth maintaining the same longitude. To us globers, eventually we'd end up in the same place... of course we'd have to traverse Antarctica. Doesn't seem practical. A better way for me would be to circle the globe (again... to us globers), maintaining the same latitude until we arrived where we started. But then you, as well as every other Flat Earther, would brush it off as us having gone around in a big circle. So in reality a trip to anywhere would be fruitless. The only visual way to prove the shape of the Earth is to go into space. I'm not sure you believe in space... but call it a high enough altitude to gain a perspective unavailable through any other means.
What would it prove? Um, if we travelled north or south according to the globe model we would end up where we started. Travelling West or East, with a compass always pointing north can be done on a flat plane. There are lots of demonstrations of this, using a magnet and a compass. All you have to worry about is the consents. It would either prove more land, or we would end up back where we started. I disagree, a visual way to prove the shape of the earth is to observe standing bodies of water (as we understand the physics of the substance).
Traveling east or west would be a lot more practical. We would end up in same place, using all the navigational technologies known to man. Still, I believe you (and every other flat Earther) would discount that by claiming we had actually traveled in a circle within the flat Earth. That's why I believe it would be fruitless.
Of course it would be more practical, but like I said, if we travel west or east,
keeping north at a 90 degrees, as shown by demonstrations (let me know if you haven't seen these, and I'll try to find one for you) or you could try the experiment yourself, can be done on a flat plane. Going any other direction than north or south also defeats the point I am trying to make, that we are not free to explore this place.
I think free exploration north or south (preferably north) is the key to finding out about this place where on. It is not necessary for proving we are not on a globe, as the physics of tangible substances like water and gases can do that simply.