Re: Golovkin v Canelo 2 CONFIRMED
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Violent Demise
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Kirkland Laing
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Violent Demise
He fights all the big fights
Chavez Junior
Amir Khan
Liam Smith
Angulo
Josesito Lopez
Endless blown up welters/fighters.
Endless has beens verifiably past their sell by date before he'd get in a ring with them.
Lara, Trout, Kirkland, Mayweather, Cotto, Golvokin (2). Alvarez is 28. Golovkin is 36. Look at the big names on Alvarez resume. Than look at the big names on Golvokin. It says it all
Yeah, and what age did they both turn pro?
Of the very few names that were available for golovkin to fight nobody wanted to know. He's been the most avoided fighter of the last ten years. Alvarez has done the most avoiding. He even created his own weight class at 155 to avoid having to fight an anywhere near prime Golovkin. And you know all this. You're just trying to make a bunch of bullshit justifications for the most carefully managed fighter there is.
Re: Golovkin v Canelo 2 CONFIRMED
I'm hugely disappointed in the result, but it was a HELL OF A FIGHT. Can't stand the cheating, coddled Canelo... but credit to him for the fight he brought tonight.
Like most others, I thought GGG did enough to pull it out, but in the end he's got no one to blame but himself. He let Canelo set the tone early in the fight by coming forward and pushing GGG back. Somehow GGG found his 2nd wind in the 2nd half of the fight and hurt Canelo several times. Had he pressed from the beginning it might have been a different story. Too much respect for Canelo in the beginning.
No, I'm not interested in a 3rd fight. Team Canelo already achieved what they wanted..... a victory over an old, over-the-hill GGG after having ducked him a couple of years ago. It goes to show that "marinating" a fight really does some good.
That chin, though. It's what saved Canelo tonight 'cause in the 2nd half of the fight GGG hit him with some bombs.
Re: Golovkin v Canelo 2 CONFIRMED
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Originally Posted by
Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by
Gandalf
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Originally Posted by
Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by
Kirkland Laing
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Originally Posted by
Violent Demise
He fights all the big fights
Chavez Junior
Amir Khan
Liam Smith
Angulo
Josesito Lopez
Endless blown up welters/fighters.
Endless has beens verifiably past their sell by date before he'd get in a ring with them.
Lara, Trout, Kirkland, Mayweather, Cotto, Golvokin (2). Alvarez is 28. Golovkin is 36. Look at the big names on Alvarez resume. Than look at the big names on Golvokin. It says it all
The Matthew Hatton one was my favorite.
Nothing but a tune-up for a 20 year old fighter. Big deal
Yeah, it was a tune up for 68 year old Ryan Rhodes.
Re: Golovkin v Canelo 2 CONFIRMED
Who was a tune up for Alfonso fucking Gomez.
Re: Golovkin v Canelo 2 CONFIRMED
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Originally Posted by
Kirkland Laing
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Originally Posted by
Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by
Kirkland Laing
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Violent Demise
He fights all the big fights
Chavez Junior
Amir Khan
Liam Smith
Angulo
Josesito Lopez
Endless blown up welters/fighters.
Endless has beens verifiably past their sell by date before he'd get in a ring with them.
Lara, Trout, Kirkland, Mayweather, Cotto, Golvokin (2). Alvarez is 28. Golovkin is 36. Look at the big names on Alvarez resume. Than look at the big names on Golvokin. It says it all
Yeah, and what age did they both turn pro?
Of the very few names that were available for golovkin to fight nobody wanted to know. He's been the most avoided fighter of the last ten years. Alvarez has done the most avoiding. He even created his own weight class at 155 to avoid having to fight an anywhere near prime Golovkin. And you know all this. You're just trying to make a bunch of bullshit justifications for the most carefully managed fighter there is.
Alvarez fought the best fighter in the world at 21 years old. He fought tricky fighters like Trout and Lara when he didn't have to. Cotto avoided him for years. Until he finally had no choice. He was always gonna fight Golovkin. But it was always gonna be Alvarez dictating the terms. Not Golovkin. And enough with the Golovkin was the most avoided fighter around. Yeah Martinez and Cotto avoided him like the plague. But aside from them, middleweight was a weak divisionat that time. Nobody was stopping him from going to 168 and challenge himself if a big fight is what he really wanted
Re: Golovkin v Canelo 2 CONFIRMED
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Originally Posted by
Kirkland Laing
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Originally Posted by
Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by
Gandalf
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Originally Posted by
Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by
Kirkland Laing
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Originally Posted by
Violent Demise
He fights all the big fights
Chavez Junior
Amir Khan
Liam Smith
Angulo
Josesito Lopez
Endless blown up welters/fighters.
Endless has beens verifiably past their sell by date before he'd get in a ring with them.
Lara, Trout, Kirkland, Mayweather, Cotto, Golvokin (2). Alvarez is 28. Golovkin is 36. Look at the big names on Alvarez resume. Than look at the big names on Golvokin. It says it all
The Matthew Hatton one was my favorite.
Nothing but a tune-up for a 20 year old fighter. Big deal
Yeah, it was a tune up for 68 year old Ryan Rhodes.
But at that time all the silly UK fans were saying Rhodes was a live body who was gonna give Alvarez trouble. Instead he folded like a lawn chair.
Re: Golovkin v Canelo 2 CONFIRMED
That was a really great fight... Alvarez made some Good adjustments and it really looked like he could have had golovkin out of there but he didn't have the stamina to finish it off. Good plan to take the centre of the ring and tire golovkin, it didn't work out perfectly but won him some rounds in my opinion... The way golovkin recovered too was brilliant he proved himself as a legend tonight, well in my opinion... I think a draw was the fairest result but either guy could have got the decision and I really think they should do it again. That was a top drawer fight and as much as everyone hates alvarez he fought really well tonight and came back swinging everytime golovkin had him hurt.
Re: Golovkin v Canelo 2 CONFIRMED
We all learned a valuable lesson today. You duck a fighter for a couple of years with bogus claims of "marinating the fight" while you wait for your opponent to get a couple of years older. When you finally fight you get an Adelaide Byrd as a judge and get a bogus draw. Then you get caught cheating before the rematch and get a wink and a slap on the wrist from the commission.... thereby pushing the rematch back a few more months. By the time you get the rematch, the other guy is visibly older and slower. Perfect way to continue bloating your resume.
Re: Golovkin v Canelo 2 CONFIRMED
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Originally Posted by
Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by
Kirkland Laing
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Originally Posted by
Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by
Kirkland Laing
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Originally Posted by
Violent Demise
He fights all the big fights
Chavez Junior
Amir Khan
Liam Smith
Angulo
Josesito Lopez
Endless blown up welters/fighters.
Endless has beens verifiably past their sell by date before he'd get in a ring with them.
Lara, Trout, Kirkland, Mayweather, Cotto, Golvokin (2). Alvarez is 28. Golovkin is 36. Look at the big names on Alvarez resume. Than look at the big names on Golvokin. It says it all
Yeah, and what age did they both turn pro?
Of the very few names that were available for golovkin to fight nobody wanted to know. He's been the most avoided fighter of the last ten years. Alvarez has done the most avoiding. He even created his own weight class at 155 to avoid having to fight an anywhere near prime Golovkin. And you know all this. You're just trying to make a bunch of bullshit justifications for the most carefully managed fighter there is.
Alvarez fought the best fighter in the world at 21 years old. He fought tricky fighters like Trout and Lara when he didn't have to. Cotto avoided him for years. Until he finally had no choice. He was always gonna fight Golovkin. But it was always gonna be Alvarez dictating the terms. Not Golovkin. And enough with the Golovkin was the most avoided fighter around. Yeah Martinez and Cotto avoided him like the plague. But aside from them, middleweight was a weak divisionat that time. Nobody was stopping him from going to 168 and challenge himself if a big fight is what he really wanted
He did figMayweather but that was a no lose situation for him. Nobody expected him to win, it was an event more than a fight. Other than that he's taken advantage of the fact that he's Mexican and has the biggest boxing demographic following to carefully manage his career, even creating his own weight class to avoid having to face Golovkin. It's true that 160 was a weak division for most of the time Golovkin was there which makes it all the more obvious that once he couldn't make 154 Alvarez was so terrified at the prospect of facing Golovkin that he wouldn't even fight in a weak weight class until Golovkin got old.
Re: Golovkin v Canelo 2 CONFIRMED
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Originally Posted by
Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by
Kirkland Laing
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Originally Posted by
Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by
Gandalf
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Originally Posted by
Violent Demise
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Kirkland Laing
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Violent Demise
He fights all the big fights
Chavez Junior
Amir Khan
Liam Smith
Angulo
Josesito Lopez
Endless blown up welters/fighters.
Endless has beens verifiably past their sell by date before he'd get in a ring with them.
Lara, Trout, Kirkland, Mayweather, Cotto, Golvokin (2). Alvarez is 28. Golovkin is 36. Look at the big names on Alvarez resume. Than look at the big names on Golvokin. It says it all
The Matthew Hatton one was my favorite.
Nothing but a tune-up for a 20 year old fighter. Big deal
Yeah, it was a tune up for 68 year old Ryan Rhodes.
But at that time all the silly UK fans were saying Rhodes was a live body who was gonna give Alvarez trouble. Instead he folded like a lawn chair.
Seriously, people picked a pensioner who was fighting in leisure centres to beat Alvarez? Who were these people?
Re: Golovkin v Canelo 2 CONFIRMED
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TitoFan
We all learned a valuable lesson today. You duck a fighter for a couple of years with bogus claims of "marinating the fight" while you wait for your opponent to get a couple of years older. When you finally fight you get an Adelaide Byrd as a judge and get a bogus draw. Then you get caught cheating before the rematch and get a wink and a slap on the wrist from the commission.... thereby pushing the rematch back a few more months. By the time you get the rematch, the other guy is visibly older and slower. Perfect way to continue bloating your resume.
Could of gone the Cotto route and said to Golovkin (studdering the whole time) "not only do I know I can't beat you. I'm not even going to try."
But he didn't
Re: Golovkin v Canelo 2 CONFIRMED
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Originally Posted by
Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by
TitoFan
We all learned a valuable lesson today. You duck a fighter for a couple of years with bogus claims of "marinating the fight" while you wait for your opponent to get a couple of years older. When you finally fight you get an Adelaide Byrd as a judge and get a bogus draw. Then you get caught cheating before the rematch and get a wink and a slap on the wrist from the commission.... thereby pushing the rematch back a few more months. By the time you get the rematch, the other guy is visibly older and slower. Perfect way to continue bloating your resume.
Could of gone the Cotto route and said to Golovkin (studdering the whole time) "not only do I know I can't beat you. I'm not even going to try."
But he didn't
Cotto was a 154-pounder who should've never really ventured into MW. His body frame is too small. To call his avoiding GGG ducking is like saying Floyd ducked Wlad. So Cotto was always going to be too small for GGG. What was Canelo's excuse? Yeah that's right..... FEAR. Canelo could've been fighting at 160 or above years ago. But he preferred hiding from GGG at 154 and showing up 25 pounds heavier than his opponents on fight night.
Re: Golovkin v Canelo 2 CONFIRMED
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Originally Posted by
Kirkland Laing
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Originally Posted by
Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by
Kirkland Laing
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Violent Demise
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Kirkland Laing
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Violent Demise
He fights all the big fights
Chavez Junior
Amir Khan
Liam Smith
Angulo
Josesito Lopez
Endless blown up welters/fighters.
Endless has beens verifiably past their sell by date before he'd get in a ring with them.
Lara, Trout, Kirkland, Mayweather, Cotto, Golvokin (2). Alvarez is 28. Golovkin is 36. Look at the big names on Alvarez resume. Than look at the big names on Golvokin. It says it all
Yeah, and what age did they both turn pro?
Of the very few names that were available for golovkin to fight nobody wanted to know. He's been the most avoided fighter of the last ten years. Alvarez has done the most avoiding. He even created his own weight class at 155 to avoid having to fight an anywhere near prime Golovkin. And you know all this. You're just trying to make a bunch of bullshit justifications for the most carefully managed fighter there is.
Alvarez fought the best fighter in the world at 21 years old. He fought tricky fighters like Trout and Lara when he didn't have to. Cotto avoided him for years. Until he finally had no choice. He was always gonna fight Golovkin. But it was always gonna be Alvarez dictating the terms. Not Golovkin. And enough with the Golovkin was the most avoided fighter around. Yeah Martinez and Cotto avoided him like the plague. But aside from them, middleweight was a weak divisionat that time. Nobody was stopping him from going to 168 and challenge himself if a big fight is what he really wanted
He did figMayweather but that was a no lose situation for him. Nobody expected him to win, it was an event more than a fight. Other than that he's taken advantage of the fact that he's Mexican and has the biggest boxing demographic following to carefully manage his career, even creating his own weight class to avoid having to face Golovkin. It's true that 160 was a weak division for most of the time Golovkin was there which makes it all the more obvious that once he couldn't make 154 Alvarez was so terrified at the prospect of facing Golovkin that he wouldn't even fight in a weak weight class until Golovkin got old.
Come the fuck on. Golovkin looked old? What fight were you watching? He got pressured all night. And his opponent stood up to his punches. That's what happened. He did not look old.
Re: Golovkin v Canelo 2 CONFIRMED
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Originally Posted by
TitoFan
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Originally Posted by
Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by
TitoFan
We all learned a valuable lesson today. You duck a fighter for a couple of years with bogus claims of "marinating the fight" while you wait for your opponent to get a couple of years older. When you finally fight you get an Adelaide Byrd as a judge and get a bogus draw. Then you get caught cheating before the rematch and get a wink and a slap on the wrist from the commission.... thereby pushing the rematch back a few more months. By the time you get the rematch, the other guy is visibly older and slower. Perfect way to continue bloating your resume.
Could of gone the Cotto route and said to Golovkin (studdering the whole time) "not only do I know I can't beat you. I'm not even going to try."
But he didn't
Cotto was a 154-pounder
who should've never really ventured into MW. His body frame is too small. To call his avoiding GGG ducking is like saying Floyd ducked Wlad. So Cotto was always going to be too small for GGG. What was Canelo's excuse? Yeah that's right..... FEAR. Canelo could've been fighting at 160 or above years ago. But he preferred hiding from GGG at 154 and showing up 25 pounds heavier than his opponents on fight night.
But he did, didn't he? And why? Cuz not only had his opponent not fought in over a year. But he was a fucking crippled with one good leg. In other words. It was cool to to go to middleweight to fight the crippled Martinez. But not cool to defend against the not crippled Golovkin. Figures.
Re: Golovkin v Canelo 2 CONFIRMED
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Originally Posted by
Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by
Kirkland Laing
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Violent Demise
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Kirkland Laing
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Violent Demise
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Kirkland Laing
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Violent Demise
He fights all the big fights
Chavez Junior
Amir Khan
Liam Smith
Angulo
Josesito Lopez
Endless blown up welters/fighters.
Endless has beens verifiably past their sell by date before he'd get in a ring with them.
Lara, Trout, Kirkland, Mayweather, Cotto, Golvokin (2). Alvarez is 28. Golovkin is 36. Look at the big names on Alvarez resume. Than look at the big names on Golvokin. It says it all
Yeah, and what age did they both turn pro?
Of the very few names that were available for golovkin to fight nobody wanted to know. He's been the most avoided fighter of the last ten years. Alvarez has done the most avoiding. He even created his own weight class at 155 to avoid having to fight an anywhere near prime Golovkin. And you know all this. You're just trying to make a bunch of bullshit justifications for the most carefully managed fighter there is.
Alvarez fought the best fighter in the world at 21 years old. He fought tricky fighters like Trout and Lara when he didn't have to. Cotto avoided him for years. Until he finally had no choice. He was always gonna fight Golovkin. But it was always gonna be Alvarez dictating the terms. Not Golovkin. And enough with the Golovkin was the most avoided fighter around. Yeah Martinez and Cotto avoided him like the plague. But aside from them, middleweight was a weak divisionat that time. Nobody was stopping him from going to 168 and challenge himself if a big fight is what he really wanted
He did figMayweather but that was a no lose situation for him. Nobody expected him to win, it was an event more than a fight. Other than that he's taken advantage of the fact that he's Mexican and has the biggest boxing demographic following to carefully manage his career, even creating his own weight class to avoid having to face Golovkin. It's true that 160 was a weak division for most of the time Golovkin was there which makes it all the more obvious that once he couldn't make 154 Alvarez was so terrified at the prospect of facing Golovkin that he wouldn't even fight in a weak weight class until Golovkin got old.
Come the fuck on. Golovkin looked old? What fight were you watching? He got pressured all night. And his opponent stood up to his punches. That's what happened. He did not look old.
Golovkin looked shot in this fight. Alvarez has shit footwork and had by far the fastest feet tonight. Golovkin was as stiff as a board. Nothing like the fighter he was. A bi change in Golovkin from even the last fight when he looked like he was slipping.