We need a world governing body to implement some lineal rules!
Seriously, how many fouls did Broner commit without any punishment?
Repeated punches thrown over the shoulder, punching on the break, punching after the bell and kicking your opponent in the balls? In other fights, that would have resulted in point deductions or disqualification. If Paulie had done those things it probably would have resulted in one of those things. These decisions should NOT be referee discretion, they should be universal law for the sport.
Re: We need a world governing body to implement some lineal rules!
The thing is how could you implement the rules, Paulie made some comments about boxing in
general, which you would have to say are true.
Broner used ever dirty trick in the book, but the referee did not seem to pick up on any infringements,
the likes of Ward, Hopkins,Broner, etc, would have been disqualified in the UK.
Remember this is nothing new in boxing, poor judges, crap referees, the governing body's need
to get there act together.!
Trouble is to much money involved, TV networks promoters, the politics of boxing have always
been a grey area.
Professional Boxing is big business, who could you have to implement the rules, there a far
to many governing body's as it is.!
Re: We need a world governing body to implement some lineal rules!
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Originally Posted by
Dia bando
The thing is how could you implement the rules, Paulie made some comments about boxing in
general, which you would have to say are true.
Broner used ever dirty trick in the book, but the referee did not seem to pick up on any infringements,
the likes of Ward, Hopkins,Broner, etc, would have been disqualified in the UK.
Remember this is nothing new in boxing, poor judges, crap referees, the governing body's need
to get there act together.!
Trouble is to much money involved, TV networks promoters, the politics of boxing have always
been a grey area.
Professional Boxing is big business, who could you have to implement the rules, there a far
to many governing body's as it is.!
It is too big now, you'd need government to pass a law on boxing, or all world governing bodies to come together to form a unified body, but unfortunately they're all corrupt.
Re: We need a world governing body to implement some lineal rules!
There def needs to be a unified front and adherence across the board but the rules are already mended from a break...like a broken arm already left to set itself :cwm13: Refs look the other way on subtle fouls at times and likewise fighters know how to work them. Its a gritty sport and while blatant kicking and that backyard childish 'spin' move he did should have been deducts, we don't want refs to start treating it like the NBA and stopping the action every 5 seconds to wag his finger at a guy. Basically as long as there are individuals on a random basis enforcing any rules, interpeting them be they refs, judges, etc you will always have a cluster f'k as far as penalties. My big thing is refs shouldn't be judges? Its a very personal dealing with a boxer in the ring and can be contentious...then that same ref could end up judging a fight on another night where he is supposed to be completely impartial to a guy. Not sure how often they still do both, but its a bad system.
Re: We need a world governing body to implement some lineal rules!
This is a great argument for instant replay.
Re: We need a world governing body to implement some lineal rules!
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johnsebastianmiran
This is a great argument for instant replay.
We tried this at Martinez vs. Murray, but when Murray knocked Martinez down for the 2nd time in Argentina, after viewing instant replay between rounds, it was still ruled a slip. They will manipulate anything for a desired outcome. We need an impartial body to sort this crap out because the rules of boxing couldn't be more blurred right now.
Re: We need a world governing body to implement some lineal rules!
From what you are described about Broner’s indiscretions it seems the ref should have penalised Broner for it so he should be held accountable. We do not need rule upon rules, we just need them to be implemented.
Re: We need a world governing body to implement some lineal rules!
Boxing refs and judges I'm sure are all huge fans of the sport but first and foremost they're there to pick up a regular paycheck. The guys judging and reffing the undercards want to become main event officials one day so if you see an overmatched prospect get the benefit of a robbery decision you know the judges are thinking about their future in the sport. If the ref somehow doesn't manage to spot a house fighter trying to kick somebody in the balls you can be certain he won't miss somebody trying to kick the house fighter.
So it doesn't matter what set of unified rules you have, you still have to get past the fact that boxing is a business and the people boxing employs to do various officiating jobs are trying to either move up the food chain or maintain their place at the top of it.