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TitoFan
You have strongly voiced opinions, Ron.... which is good. We also don't always agree, which is good also. If I were to read a tone into what you just wrote, I'd interpret that you're saying GGG doesn't exactly want to fight the best because he was aiming for Murata. Fair enough... that might be your opinion. I, however, have always felt GGG will fight anybody. He and the "other dude at middleweight" are at opposite sides of the ducking and avoiding spectrum. You can't blame GGG for aiming for Murata. He was to fight Murata in Japan. That alone puts him head and shoulders above that "other dude at middleweight" who can't be budged from Las Vegas (well.... maybe to Texas). That says a LOT. When you don't have corrupt judges holding a net below you.... when you brave hostile crowds and maybe some home cooking judging.... you're doing what you can. If we fans don't agree with Opponent X or Opponent Y.... it's probably a bit unfair to dump that on GGG's lap. I can understand when you say you don't want GGG to lose... only to fight the best. Believe me.... the day GGG actually ducks somebody (or asks for a fight to be marinated).... I'll be first in line calling him a ducker. Meanwhile, we gotta be patient and let the big fights materialize. My opinion, of course.
Before you get all hot about the ducking thing, reread what you said about expecting him to sit out waiting on the "other dude at middleweight". That infers he'll pass on other opportunities for whatever reason. IMO Golovkin has never given his fans any reason he'll avoid any fight.
Perhaps you don’t recall before Canelo 1 I believe it was you and I discussing the Canelo fight. I didn’t want it because I want him to fight the best. But we agreed that everyone would go after that Canelo money. The discussion was concluded with after Canelo he will fight the top guys. I doubted that because of what had proceeded.
Since Canelo has been Martirosyan, why? Cost him a belt because he quite literally didn’t take the comers. Canelo again, can’t refuse that money, understandable. Charlo was his mandatory for over a year, when ordered to fight him he filed a petition to avoid, literally again not taking the comers. Looking at Murata, is he the comer? Nobody had Murata as one of the best in the division until GGG wanted him then you have guys like Fenster adjust his rating to top 5. Clearly incorrectly. The dude is 36, when does he take the comers?
The guy seems like a willing guy but his entire career suggests otherwise.
Let’s not forget that he was willing to go to 168 for Steiglitz. But when Ward challenged he was too busy cleaning out 160. But willing to go to 168 for Froch, cleaning out 160. Willing to go to 168 for Chavez, cleaning out 160.
Is 160 cleaned out at all? Most would say the top guys at 160 are
GGG, Canelo, Jacobs, Charlo, Saunders, Derevyanchenko.
Most would say he didn’t clean out Jacobs, in fact most would say Jacobs deserved a rematch. It will be 2 years since, no rematch. Charlo was his mandatory over a year, no match. Derevyanchenko he lost his belt choosing Martirosyan. Fair play on Canelo but I think we would both agree Jacobs and Charlo are more dangerous to GGG because of size, speed. The literal comers Jacobs, Charlo, Deveryanchenko didn’t get taken.
Understand my point is not that GGG can’t fight or won’t fight. It’s that he has no obligations now so he can take the comers. Fingers crossed he does. I’ve just seen every choice be changed and built so I expect some name to come out of left field and it be built or him to wait on Canelo. Really hope I’m wrong
(As far as the other guy, I don’t really care about Canelo. I think he is a fraud. I’m harder on GGG because I don’t think he is a fraud. If I respect someone I want to see the substance match the accolades)
