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If you say wuhan virus you are a racist and xenophobic
So I mentioned prior I collect, repair and sell watches. Because of this I’m on a watchforum. It’s a good group of people very diverse from the 100 dollar seiko collectors to the guys that can drop 75k on a watch and not blink. Yesterday there was a news report that movado watch company is laying off most of their work force and cutting benefits for those left. I started a thread about it on the forum but in the heading I put something like movados reaction to the wuhan virus. Holy shit you wouldn’t believe the shit storm that created. I am racist against Chinese, I’m xenophobic. It got pretty intense. I did explain I had no malicious intent but we were calling this the wuhan virus when it first started then one day it just changed to covid. I explained I still often say wuhan because of that but nope, according to some people I’m racist against Chinese. It then spilled over to a fight betwixt those who knew what I was saying and those who say anyone who says wuhan is a racist or at the very least a dog whistle. Wtf. I asked the mod to lock the thread. He did but got back to me and took my side which I didn’t expect. Damn the world is getting tough it’s way to easy to set people off this wuhan virus is fucking up everything
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Why do you want it called the wuhan virus, if it started in New York would you have called it that virus. As far as I am aware they have never been named in that way. What is wrong with calling it covid virus?
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It is not racist to say something factual. If people cannot handle reality, then that is their delusion.
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It is not that calling it the Wuhan Virus makes you a racist it is the fact that many racist like your President could not wait to call it the Wuhan or Chinese virus and yet would never have called Swine flu the North Caroline virus or the American Virus. So you can see the people trying to police language are not all on the other side of the see saw to you. Some of them like Grandad Alph are actually trying to get on your lap. ;D
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It is not that calling it the Wuhan Virus makes you a racist it is the fact that many racist like your President could not wait to call it the Wuhan or Chinese virus and yet would never have called Swine flu the North Caroline virus or the American Virus. So you can see the people trying to police language are not all on the other side of the see saw to you. Some of them like Grandad Alph are actually trying to get on your lap. ;D
Lyme disease is named after a town in my state where the disease was found. We have so many diseases with reference to their origin or where they were found it shouldn’t be a big deal. Trump had reason for mentioning it several times. At that time China was blaming the US for starting the disease and using it as a weapon against China. That was actually reported from the official Chinese news broadcasts to its people. I know my family over there said most people called bullshit, quietly, but no doubt some in China believe that. China let 5 million people leave wuhan area for various parts of the world when they knew exactly what was going on. This is much more of a China virus than just it starting there. To this day they are saying cases in Shanghai, which they report is only a handful, were started by Americans traveling. So fuck China, they have gone so far as to blame Italy when the us thing didn’t stick. It’s the fucking wuhan virus. Now as the world fights the wuhan virus China is beefing up its military presence in the South China Sea running drills. Do you think they give one fuck. They look at this as a chance to expand their power. They are intent on being THE dominant world power. Don’t feel bad or by the bullshit. Trump had very good reason to use those words. Fuck China, don’t buy the bullshit it’s the wuhan virus. China is a beautiful country. The people are amazingly friendly and the food is absolutely amazing but we need to call bullshit on Xi who has a hard on for Mao, one of the biggest killers the world has seen.
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Why do you want it called the wuhan virus, if it started in New York would you have called it that virus. As far as I am aware they have never been named in that way. What is wrong with calling it covid virus?
Because despite being a prick I try to follow the truth
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You're not racist or xenophobic for calling it the Wuhan or China/Chinese virus. It's where the virus originated and the government who has lied about it/suppressed information about it.
China does not house A singular race anymore than any other nation.
Hope this helps
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El Kabong
You're not racist or xenophobic for calling it the Wuhan or China/Chinese virus. It's where the virus originated and the government who has lied about it/suppressed information about it.
China does not house A singular race anymore than any other nation.
Hope this helps
Kabonger you wouldn’t believe how people reacted. I don’t think big D would last to long on that watch forum. I’m sure watches are a white supremacy thing anyway. Probably invented by white people so they could be on time for klan meetings
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I'm sure the marking of time itself is somehow racist
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Beanz
It is not that calling it the Wuhan Virus makes you a racist it is the fact that many racist like your President could not wait to call it the Wuhan or Chinese virus and yet would never have called Swine flu the North Caroline virus or the American Virus. So you can see the people trying to police language are not all on the other side of the see saw to you. Some of them like Grandad Alph are actually trying to get on your lap. ;D
Lyme disease is named after a town in my state where the disease was found. We have so many diseases with reference to their origin or where they were found it shouldn’t be a big deal. Trump had reason for mentioning it several times. At that time China was blaming the US for starting the disease and using it as a weapon against China. That was actually reported from the official Chinese news broadcasts to its people. I know my family over there said most people called bullshit, quietly, but no doubt some in China believe that. China let 5 million people leave wuhan area for various parts of the world when they knew exactly what was going on. This is much more of a China virus than just it starting there. To this day they are saying cases in Shanghai, which they report is only a handful, were started by Americans traveling. So fuck China, they have gone so far as to blame Italy when the us thing didn’t stick. It’s the fucking wuhan virus. Now as the world fights the wuhan virus China is beefing up its military presence in the South China Sea running drills. Do you think they give one fuck. They look at this as a chance to expand their power. They are intent on being THE dominant world power. Don’t feel bad or by the bullshit. Trump had very good reason to use those words. Fuck China, don’t buy the bullshit it’s the wuhan virus. China is a beautiful country. The people are amazingly friendly and the food is absolutely amazing but we need to call bullshit on Xi who has a hard on for Mao, one of the biggest killers the world has seen.
But then if you are really serious you have to call out America and your Dictator/King/President (his words) for the same shit. Nobody blames the American people unless they try and pretend that not supporting Trump is 'being political' but supporting him isn't. The last thing the world needs is a dominant world power and especially one with only a state sponsored media which is the way both the UK and the USA is headed. We currently have the most racist Prime Minister in our history (and that is quite a well attended race) but even he is not calling it the Wuhan Virus. Now you can call it what you want but the fact remains that people will use that term and weaponize it. Look how here the 'open borders' trope was rushed out seconds after news spread and yet how the same tabloid Youtube watching imbecile was at the same time very quick to call anything that linked the spread of the disease to social gatherings (not least the 40 000 families attending the Lunar Banquets in Wuhan) 'fear porn'.
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Beanz
It is not that calling it the Wuhan Virus makes you a racist it is the fact that many racist like your President could not wait to call it the Wuhan or Chinese virus and yet would never have called Swine flu the North Caroline virus or the American Virus. So you can see the people trying to police language are not all on the other side of the see saw to you. Some of them like Grandad Alph are actually trying to get on your lap. ;D
Lyme disease is named after a town in my state where the disease was found. We have so many diseases with reference to their origin or where they were found it shouldn’t be a big deal. Trump had reason for mentioning it several times. At that time China was blaming the US for starting the disease and using it as a weapon against China. That was actually reported from the official Chinese news broadcasts to its people. I know my family over there said most people called bullshit, quietly, but no doubt some in China believe that. China let 5 million people leave wuhan area for various parts of the world when they knew exactly what was going on. This is much more of a China virus than just it starting there. To this day they are saying cases in Shanghai, which they report is only a handful, were started by Americans traveling. So fuck China, they have gone so far as to blame Italy when the us thing didn’t stick. It’s the fucking wuhan virus. Now as the world fights the wuhan virus China is beefing up its military presence in the South China Sea running drills. Do you think they give one fuck. They look at this as a chance to expand their power. They are intent on being THE dominant world power. Don’t feel bad or by the bullshit. Trump had very good reason to use those words. Fuck China, don’t buy the bullshit it’s the wuhan virus. China is a beautiful country. The people are amazingly friendly and the food is absolutely amazing but we need to call bullshit on Xi who has a hard on for Mao, one of the biggest killers the world has seen.
But then if you are really serious you have to call out America and your Dictator/King/President (his words) for the same shit. Nobody blames the American people unless they try and pretend that not supporting Trump is 'being political' but supporting him isn't. The last thing the world needs is a dominant world power and especially one with only a state sponsored media which is the way both the UK and the USA is headed. We currently have the most racist Prime Minister in our history (and that is quite a well attended race) but even he is not calling it the Wuhan Virus. Now you can call it what you want but the fact remains that people will use that term and weaponize it. Look how here the 'open borders' trope was rushed out seconds after news spread and yet how the same tabloid Youtube watching imbecile was at the same time very quick to call anything that linked the spread of the disease to social gatherings (not least the 40 000 families attending the Lunar Banquets in Wuhan)
'fear porn'.
If we have to have a world power, which we do, always have, I didn’t make the system. Would you prefer it be China? And believe it or not beaner my list of gripes with the US is probably ten times longer than yours.
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walrus
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Beanz
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walrus
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Beanz
It is not that calling it the Wuhan Virus makes you a racist it is the fact that many racist like your President could not wait to call it the Wuhan or Chinese virus and yet would never have called Swine flu the North Caroline virus or the American Virus. So you can see the people trying to police language are not all on the other side of the see saw to you. Some of them like Grandad Alph are actually trying to get on your lap. ;D
Lyme disease is named after a town in my state where the disease was found. We have so many diseases with reference to their origin or where they were found it shouldn’t be a big deal. Trump had reason for mentioning it several times. At that time China was blaming the US for starting the disease and using it as a weapon against China. That was actually reported from the official Chinese news broadcasts to its people. I know my family over there said most people called bullshit, quietly, but no doubt some in China believe that. China let 5 million people leave wuhan area for various parts of the world when they knew exactly what was going on. This is much more of a China virus than just it starting there. To this day they are saying cases in Shanghai, which they report is only a handful, were started by Americans traveling. So fuck China, they have gone so far as to blame Italy when the us thing didn’t stick. It’s the fucking wuhan virus. Now as the world fights the wuhan virus China is beefing up its military presence in the South China Sea running drills. Do you think they give one fuck. They look at this as a chance to expand their power. They are intent on being THE dominant world power. Don’t feel bad or by the bullshit. Trump had very good reason to use those words. Fuck China, don’t buy the bullshit it’s the wuhan virus. China is a beautiful country. The people are amazingly friendly and the food is absolutely amazing but we need to call bullshit on Xi who has a hard on for Mao, one of the biggest killers the world has seen.
But then if you are really serious you have to call out America and your Dictator/King/President (his words) for the same shit. Nobody blames the American people unless they try and pretend that not supporting Trump is 'being political' but supporting him isn't. The last thing the world needs is a dominant world power and especially one with only a state sponsored media which is the way both the UK and the USA is headed. We currently have the most racist Prime Minister in our history (and that is quite a well attended race) but even he is not calling it the Wuhan Virus. Now you can call it what you want but the fact remains that people will use that term and weaponize it. Look how here the 'open borders' trope was rushed out seconds after news spread and yet how the same tabloid Youtube watching imbecile was at the same time very quick to call anything that linked the spread of the disease to social gatherings (not least the 40 000 families attending the Lunar Banquets in Wuhan)
'fear porn'.
If we have to have a world power, which we do, always have, I didn’t make the system. Would you prefer it be China? And believe it or not beaner my list of gripes with the US is probably ten times longer than yours.
God no. Empires are always a bad idea. Capitalist or Communist they are not the way the future, if there is going to be one, will pan out. Things will have to change radically.
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To answer the thread title... no... if you say wuhan virus doesn't necessarily mean you're racist or xenophobic.
It's just a name, ffs. You don't hear anyone asking the same questions about the Spanish Flu of 1918. Probably because people didn't concern themselves with such nonsense back in those days.
Here's what I think.
If you say Wuhan virus and you're already a racist or a xenophobic, then you're racist or xenophobic.
If you say Wuhan virus and you're not..... then you're not.
Simple but does the job. ;) ;)
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Well damn speaking of China I just read the government reports 205 million people having trouble finding work now that wuhan virus restrictions are being lifted. So if China admits to 205 million could be close to 300 million. That isn’t good China has a type of unemployment but it’s only accessible to certain people. There really aren’t many safety nets. That is a large number to be concerned about China will have to think of something they have a very big fear of social unrest
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:biteit: Have not heard it called that until now. At least with Coronavirus you got some pretty cool beer memes out of it :p. Given the actual impact and death toll what it actually makes you sound like isn't at the top of the cares list. But fact is loons and kooks can grab onto labels and stereotypes like "Chinese Virus" and stab Asian families in a Texas grocery store, including a 2 year old. We should start naming all of our imports after the Cities where they are manufactured for kicks. Man that would be an eye opener.
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Thank God where I live there is a distinct shortage of loons and kooks.
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:biteit: Have not heard it called that until now. At least with Coronavirus you got some pretty cool beer memes out of it :p. Given the actual impact and death toll what it actually makes you sound like isn't at the top of the cares list. But fact is loons and kooks can grab onto labels and stereotypes like "Chinese Virus" and stab Asian families in a Texas grocery store, including a 2 year old. We should start naming all of our imports after the Cities where they are manufactured for kicks. Man that would be an eye opener.
Yes, we need to ban violent video games and movies as well. We will show those kooks. We will make them normal by completely changing our behavior
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Spicoli
:biteit: Have not heard it called that until now. At least with Coronavirus you got some pretty cool beer memes out of it :p. Given the actual impact and death toll what it actually makes you sound like isn't at the top of the cares list. But fact is loons and kooks can grab onto labels and stereotypes like "Chinese Virus" and stab Asian families in a Texas grocery store, including a 2 year old. We should start naming all of our imports after the Cities where they are manufactured for kicks. Man that would be an eye opener.
Yes, we need to ban violent video games and movies as well. We will show those kooks. We will make them normal by completely changing our behavior
Video games are not promoted and advertised by a Government and the worlds largest known political 'leader' seeking favoritism and votes just months away.
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Spicoli
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walrus
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Spicoli
:biteit: Have not heard it called that until now. At least with Coronavirus you got some pretty cool beer memes out of it :p. Given the actual impact and death toll what it actually makes you sound like isn't at the top of the cares list. But fact is loons and kooks can grab onto labels and stereotypes like "Chinese Virus" and stab Asian families in a Texas grocery store, including a 2 year old. We should start naming all of our imports after the Cities where they are manufactured for kicks. Man that would be an eye opener.
Yes, we need to ban violent video games and movies as well. We will show those kooks. We will make them normal by completely changing our behavior
Video games are not promoted and advertised by a Government and the worlds largest known political 'leader' seeking favoritism and votes just months away.
I’m not running for anything. I say wuhan as that’s where it started. Period.
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walrus
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Spicoli
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walrus
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Spicoli
:biteit: Have not heard it called that until now. At least with Coronavirus you got some pretty cool beer memes out of it :p. Given the actual impact and death toll what it actually makes you sound like isn't at the top of the cares list. But fact is loons and kooks can grab onto labels and stereotypes like "Chinese Virus" and stab Asian families in a Texas grocery store, including a 2 year old. We should start naming all of our imports after the Cities where they are manufactured for kicks. Man that would be an eye opener.
Yes, we need to ban violent video games and movies as well. We will show those kooks. We will make them normal by completely changing our behavior
Video games are not promoted and advertised by a Government and the worlds largest known political 'leader' seeking favoritism and votes just months away.
I’m not running for anything. I say wuhan as that’s where it started. Period.
Mmk clearly I wasn't referring to you ;D. You can call it the General Chow chicken imported death mist if you like. But hey I played a Judas Priest album backwards once and didn't kill anyone either.
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Spicoli
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walrus
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Spicoli
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walrus
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Originally Posted by
Spicoli
:biteit: Have not heard it called that until now. At least with Coronavirus you got some pretty cool beer memes out of it :p. Given the actual impact and death toll what it actually makes you sound like isn't at the top of the cares list. But fact is loons and kooks can grab onto labels and stereotypes like "Chinese Virus" and stab Asian families in a Texas grocery store, including a 2 year old. We should start naming all of our imports after the Cities where they are manufactured for kicks. Man that would be an eye opener.
Yes, we need to ban violent video games and movies as well. We will show those kooks. We will make them normal by completely changing our behavior
Video games are not promoted and advertised by a Government and the worlds largest known political 'leader' seeking favoritism and votes just months away.
I’m not running for anything. I say wuhan as that’s where it started. Period.
Mmk clearly I wasn't referring to you ;D. You can call it the General Chow chicken imported death mist if you like. But hey I played a Judas Priest album backwards once and didn't kill anyone either.
I just meant me saying wuhan had nothing to do with trump. China is running a massive disinformation campaign in the US now. I just want to make sure we call them on their bullshit. But anyway we all have our opinions and no one is following me around writing mine down so I don’t think mine means very much to many
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Somewhere in internet World dennilson is quoting this thread as proof that despite making a concerted effort to NOT appear racist, you are in fact.....still a racist.
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Well at least we know Walrus shit stirs on his watch forum too. Consistent. Stop causing trouble. You know full well the consequences of this rhetoric. It's unnecessary.
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Well at least we know Walrus shit stirs on his watch forum too. Consistent. Stop causing trouble. You know full well the consequences of this rhetoric. It's unnecessary.
Fuck them and the horse they road in on, the horse named wuhan
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Somewhere in internet World dennilson is quoting this thread as proof that despite making a concerted effort to NOT appear racist, you are in fact.....still a racist.
Yes what big D thinks of me matters a lot
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Walrus loves the Chinese, but is just being honest. Political correctness is in essence about shielding us from honesty.
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Walrus loves the Chinese, but is just being honest. Political correctness is in essence about shielding us from honesty.
China was by far the best country I have visited so far and I look forward to going again
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Walrus loves the Chinese, but is just being honest. Political correctness is in essence about shielding us from honesty.
No it is not. It should be about being mindful of others.
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Walrus loves the Chinese, but is just being honest. Political correctness is in essence about shielding us from honesty.
No it is not. It should be about being mindful of others.
Which is why lefties balk at IQ data. It is just about being honest. It is honest to say that China covered up and then released human WMD on the world and have potentially caused permanent damage to our Prime Minister ir even heaven forbid death. I don't really care about their feelings. I consider it an act of war.
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Walrus loves the Chinese, but is just being honest. Political correctness is in essence about shielding us from honesty.
No it is not. It should be about being mindful of others.
Which is why lefties balk at IQ data. It is just about being honest. It is honest to say that China covered up and then released human WMD on the world and have potentially caused permanent damage to our Prime Minister ir even heaven forbid death. I don't really care about their feelings. I consider it an act of war.
It is all in own your mind. Everyone balks at your interpretation of IQ data.
So now China released this WMD on the world just so you can make your point is being a bit over the top even for you.
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Only people blinded by evidence. It so researched that to deny it is in my view similar to suggesting the earth is flat. Lots of research all saying the same. It hurts feelings, but is a fact. The only question is why.
As for China. Wake up. Who gains the most from all this...for now?
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Only people blinded by evidence. It so researched that to deny it is in my view similar to suggesting the earth is flat. Lots of research all saying the same. It hurts feelings, but is a fact. The only question is why.
As for China. Wake up. Who gains the most from all this...for now?
You "Awoke" now? That was relatively quick for you. Hard to keep up.
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I try to keep it real.
Did it originate in China? Sure... all evidence points in that direction.
Were the Chinese less than forthcoming about it in the beginning? Probably so. They're not exactly the world model for an open, communicative society.
Is it a WMD they've released? That's where the reaching begins. I'm not a fan of unsubstantiated conspiracy theories.
I'll also reiterate I don't see anything wrong with calling it the Wuhan virus...... just as I don't see any issues with people calling the 1918 bug the Spanish flu.
I'm more interested in people's intent.
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I try to keep it real.
Did it originate in China? Sure... all evidence points in that direction.
Were the Chinese less than forthcoming about it in the beginning? Probably so. They're not exactly the world model for an open, communicative society.
Is it a WMD they've released? That's where the reaching begins. I'm not a fan of unsubstantiated conspiracy theories.
I'll also reiterate I don't see anything wrong with calling it the Wuhan virus...... just as I don't see any issues with people calling the 1918 bug the Spanish flu.
I'm more interested in people's intent.
Except the Spanish Flu did not start in Spain it started in American Forts. It is important because naming something shapes people's reaction to it and their behaviour too. Look at AIDS originally known as GRID Gay Related Immune Deficiency and how for so long many straight people thought they could carry on without consequence. Again why is HnN1 Flu not called Swine Flu or North Carolina Flu? because idiots then go and wipe out whole herds of healthy pigs, and destroy the livelihoods of those who depend on them. Surely the case of some 2 year old Chinese kid and his parents being attacked and the attacks on Chinese communities all over the world is more important than giving Trump and his racist pals an excuse to label an entire country?
If it were man made there is probably just as much chance that it was made by the American Military in NC as the Chinese in their country.
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I try to keep it real.
Did it originate in China? Sure... all evidence points in that direction.
Were the Chinese less than forthcoming about it in the beginning? Probably so. They're not exactly the world model for an open, communicative society.
Is it a WMD they've released? That's where the reaching begins. I'm not a fan of unsubstantiated conspiracy theories.
I'll also reiterate I don't see anything wrong with calling it the Wuhan virus...... just as I don't see any issues with people calling the 1918 bug the Spanish flu.
I'm more interested in people's intent.
Except the Spanish Flu did not start in Spain it started in American Forts. It is important because naming something shapes people's reaction to it and their behaviour too. Look at AIDS originally known as GRID Gay Related Immune Deficiency and how for so long many straight people thought they could carry on without consequence. Again why is HnN1 Flu not called Swine Flu or North Carolina Flu? because idiots then go and wipe out whole herds of healthy pigs, and destroy the livelihoods of those who depend on them. Surely the case of some 2 year old Chinese kid and his parents being attacked and the attacks on Chinese communities all over the world is more important than giving Trump and his racist pals an excuse to label an entire country?
If it were man made there is probably just as much chance that it was made by the American Military in NC as the Chinese in their country.
"Naming something shapes [SUSCEPTIBLE] people's reaction to it and their behavior too." I added the word susceptible because that's who is shaped by names. Other, wiser people see names for what they are, identifiers. Nothing more... nothing less.
In the PC world spectrum, I again inhabit that mostly uninhabited region known as common sense. On one extreme are those who would argue that calling someone offensive names is ok.... as long as they don't threaten or physically touch you. On the other extreme, you have those who constantly seek out more and more names and phrases to call offensive. I'm proudly neither.
Was never aware of the GRID designation in my own circles.... would've refrained from using it knowing the truth about the disease.
In my opinion, the fact that a 2-year old Chinese kid and his parents would be attacked without provocation speaks more about the persistent pestilence of racism in the world, than about naming of viruses. Anyone moved to commit such crimes of hate and ignorance are nothing but a ticking time bomb that will be set off by any number of excuses.
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Except the Spanish Flu did not start in Spain it started in American Forts. It is important because naming something shapes people's reaction to it and their behaviour too. Look at AIDS originally known as GRID Gay Related Immune Deficiency and how for so long many straight people thought they could carry on without consequence. Again why is HnN1 Flu not called Swine Flu or North Carolina Flu? because idiots then go and wipe out whole herds of healthy pigs, and destroy the livelihoods of those who depend on them. Surely the case of some 2 year old Chinese kid and his parents being attacked and the attacks on Chinese communities all over the world is more important than giving Trump and his racist pals an excuse to label an entire country?
If it were man made there is probably just as much chance that it was made by the American Military in NC as the Chinese in their country.
It's called swine flu quite routinely https://www.wral.com/news/local/video/5867907/ 'Cary student recalls having swine flu'.....but hey what would I know about it. Also in 2009 it first appeared in Mexico. But anywho as you were, carry on.
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Re: If you say wuhan virus you are a racist and xenophobic
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El Kabong
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Beanz
Except the Spanish Flu did not start in Spain it started in American Forts. It is important because naming something shapes people's reaction to it and their behaviour too. Look at AIDS originally known as GRID Gay Related Immune Deficiency and how for so long many straight people thought they could carry on without consequence. Again why is HnN1 Flu not called Swine Flu or North Carolina Flu? because idiots then go and wipe out whole herds of healthy pigs, and destroy the livelihoods of those who depend on them. Surely the case of some 2 year old Chinese kid and his parents being attacked and the attacks on Chinese communities all over the world is more important than giving Trump and his racist pals an excuse to label an entire country?
If it were man made there is probably just as much chance that it was made by the American Military in NC as the Chinese in their country.
It's called swine flu quite routinely
https://www.wral.com/news/local/video/5867907/ 'Cary student recalls having swine flu'.....but hey what would I know about it. Also in 2009 it first appeared in Mexico. But anywho as you were, carry on.
People call 'Spanish Flu' something that did not originate in Spain. The point is nobody is calling people racist for calling it whatever you want, but it serves no useful purpose to dig your heels in (not you) in order to insist it is somehow an infringment of free speech or some such bollocks to call it Wuhan Virus.
It is the worse kind of Devils advocate virtue signalling, which is a massive part of the lame alt right stuff pedalled by some of the childish losers on this forum.
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Re: If you say wuhan virus you are a racist and xenophobic
China owes the world bigtime for the lies about this wuhan virus at the get go. Things could have gone much different
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Re: If you say wuhan virus you are a racist and xenophobic
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Originally Posted by
Beanz
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Originally Posted by
El Kabong
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Originally Posted by
Beanz
Except the Spanish Flu did not start in Spain it started in American Forts. It is important because naming something shapes people's reaction to it and their behaviour too. Look at AIDS originally known as GRID Gay Related Immune Deficiency and how for so long many straight people thought they could carry on without consequence. Again why is HnN1 Flu not called Swine Flu or North Carolina Flu? because idiots then go and wipe out whole herds of healthy pigs, and destroy the livelihoods of those who depend on them. Surely the case of some 2 year old Chinese kid and his parents being attacked and the attacks on Chinese communities all over the world is more important than giving Trump and his racist pals an excuse to label an entire country?
If it were man made there is probably just as much chance that it was made by the American Military in NC as the Chinese in their country.
It's called swine flu quite routinely
https://www.wral.com/news/local/video/5867907/ 'Cary student recalls having swine flu'.....but hey what would I know about it. Also in 2009 it first appeared in Mexico. But anywho as you were, carry on.
People call 'Spanish Flu' something that did not originate in Spain. The point is nobody is calling people racist for calling it whatever you want, but it serves no useful purpose to dig your heels in (not you) in order to insist it is somehow an infringment of free speech or some such bollocks to call it Wuhan Virus.
It is the worse kind of Devils advocate virtue signalling, which is a massive part of the lame alt right stuff pedalled by some of the childish losers on this forum.
Seeing you exclude El Kabong from this particular indictment, who then besides Gandalf are you bunching together as "the childish losers on this forum" who "pedal lame alt right stuff" of which "devils advocate virtue signaling" is a massive part of?
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Re: If you say wuhan virus you are a racist and xenophobic
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TitoFan
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Beanz
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El Kabong
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Originally Posted by
Beanz
Except the Spanish Flu did not start in Spain it started in American Forts. It is important because naming something shapes people's reaction to it and their behaviour too. Look at AIDS originally known as GRID Gay Related Immune Deficiency and how for so long many straight people thought they could carry on without consequence. Again why is HnN1 Flu not called Swine Flu or North Carolina Flu? because idiots then go and wipe out whole herds of healthy pigs, and destroy the livelihoods of those who depend on them. Surely the case of some 2 year old Chinese kid and his parents being attacked and the attacks on Chinese communities all over the world is more important than giving Trump and his racist pals an excuse to label an entire country?
If it were man made there is probably just as much chance that it was made by the American Military in NC as the Chinese in their country.
It's called swine flu quite routinely
https://www.wral.com/news/local/video/5867907/ 'Cary student recalls having swine flu'.....but hey what would I know about it. Also in 2009 it first appeared in Mexico. But anywho as you were, carry on.
People call 'Spanish Flu' something that did not originate in Spain. The point is nobody is calling people racist for calling it whatever you want, but it serves no useful purpose to dig your heels in (not you) in order to insist it is somehow an infringment of free speech or some such bollocks to call it Wuhan Virus.
It is the worse kind of Devils advocate virtue signalling, which is a massive part of the lame alt right stuff pedalled by some of the childish losers on this forum.
Seeing you exclude El Kabong from this particular indictment, who then besides Gandalf are you bunching together as "the childish losers on this forum" who "pedal lame alt right stuff" of which "devils advocate virtue signaling" is a massive part of?
Walrus. His true motive has come out.