the scam is over. what's next?

the plandemic has run it's course. it has been stretched as far as it possibly could. your liberties & freedoms are being chipped away bit by bit. so be ready for the next one. so what is the next crisis that is coming up? some sort of orchestrated war between two main forces? or even staged weather crisis? aliens? space war or accident, food shortage, take your pick. i'm picking a weather manipulation climate crisis. more tsunami's, earthquakes, wild fires, floods, hurricanes, tornado's. i doubt these so called natural disasters will be natural. the current scam is crumbling & there must be a change of course & it is probably being done already & will probably ramp up, intentionally, on purpose, to create more chaos, more crisis, more disorder, because that's how people are controlled

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the plandemic has run it's course. it has been stretched as far as it possibly could. your liberties & freedoms are being chipped away bit by bit. so be ready for the next one. so what is the next crisis that is coming up? some sort of orchestrated war between two main forces? or even staged weather crisis? aliens? space war or accident, food shortage, take your pick. i'm picking a weather manipulation climate crisis. more tsunami's, earthquakes, wild fires, floods, hurricanes, tornado's. i doubt these so called natural disasters will be natural. the current scam is crumbling & there must be a change of course & it is probably being done already & will probably ramp up, intentionally, on purpose, to create more chaos, more crisis, more disorder, because that's how people are controlled

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So what you gonna do about it kid? You’re the one with all the knowledge, give us your masterplan.

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the plandemic has run it's course. it has been stretched as far as it possibly could. your liberties & freedoms are being chipped away bit by bit. so be ready for the next one. so what is the next crisis that is coming up? some sort of orchestrated war between two main forces? or even staged weather crisis? aliens? space war or accident, food shortage, take your pick. i'm picking a weather manipulation climate crisis. more tsunami's, earthquakes, wild fires, floods, hurricanes, tornado's. i doubt these so called natural disasters will be natural. the current scam is crumbling & there must be a change of course & it is probably being done already & will probably ramp up, intentionally, on purpose, to create more chaos, more crisis, more disorder, because that's how people are controlled

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So what you gonna do about it kid? You’re the one with all the knowledge, give us your masterplan.

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where did i say i had all the knowledge & a masterplan?

Do you own an iPhone, TIC? I’m just asking because I’m formulating a background theory about that. I’ve been researching on the internet, but be patient as I haven’t finished yet.

Anyway, back to your post - and I don’t mean any offence by this - but I have been learning some really good stuff from you recently.

So, are your statements just a belief, or how do you know them to be true?

Im prepared to accept them if I could KNOW and see some truth?

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Do you own an iPhone, TIC? I’m just asking because I’m formulating a background theory about that. I’ve been researching on the internet, but be patient as I haven’t finished yet.

Anyway, back to your post - and I don’t mean any offence by this - but I have been learning some really good stuff from you recently.

So, are your statements just a belief, or how do you know them to be true?

Im prepared to accept them if I could KNOW and see some truth?

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no i don't have an iphone. i actually have two phones, neither are iphone. these are just my thoughts & ideas on what i believe is going to happen. i see the fake virus being pushed a bit longer for a few more vaccines & boosters for as much profit & control as can be squeezed from it. the transition may have already started

the next crisis could possibly be another fake pandemic

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the plandemic has run it's course. it has been stretched as far as it possibly could. your liberties & freedoms are being chipped away bit by bit. so be ready for the next one. so what is the next crisis that is coming up? some sort of orchestrated war between two main forces? or even staged weather crisis? aliens? space war or accident, food shortage, take your pick. i'm picking a weather manipulation climate crisis. more tsunami's, earthquakes, wild fires, floods, hurricanes, tornado's. i doubt these so called natural disasters will be natural. the current scam is crumbling & there must be a change of course & it is probably being done already & will probably ramp up, intentionally, on purpose, to create more chaos, more crisis, more disorder, because that's how people are controlled

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It's tough to even know where to start with this one. "Liberties and freedoms." Well... speaking for myself, I honestly have not had any discernible liberties or freedoms "chipped away" that I know of. And since it's MY perception that counts regarding MY liberties... that point isn't even up for debate.

"Staged weather crisis"... "weather manipulation." Wow. You're really diving deep into the Conspiracy Theory pool now, eh? Let's just say for a moment that mankind COULD conjure up tsunamis, destructive earthquakes, and (OMG)... hurricanes. To what end? Who's behind this maniacal weather manipulation? What are they trying to accomplish? How do they target the victims of say... a major hurricane? Damn. :vd:

You "doubt these so called natural disasters will be natural"... so you must have some theory about how exactly does one conjure up and use a major hurricane or a tsunami as a weapon and direct it toward a desired target. Double damn. :vd:

Food shortages... yeah. I think everyone understands that these can result from political forces and manipulation, as well as major climactic events. So I'll give you that one.

But back to the COVID "scam". Let's go on your premise that COVID never existed and was just a globally colossal scam. A scam, mind you... that required the unprecedented coordination of governments around the world. A "pulling of the wool over our eyes" of EPIC proportions, complete with fake death numbers... fake scientific data PURPOSELY disseminated by many thousands of corrupt health professionals in a PERFECTLY choreographed song and dance that fooled the entire world. Damn... it hurts me even to write these words. But I'll go along with your wild beliefs just to get to my point.

Let's say it's ALL BEEN FAKE.

You said this: "the current scam is crumbling & there must be a change of course & it is probably being done already & will probably ramp up, intentionally, on purpose, to create more chaos, more crisis, more disorder, because that's how people are controlled"

So what "chaos and disorder" was caused by COVID that must now be furthered by this supposedly "new" scam?

"Because that's how people are controlled..." I see. :rolleyes: But again... I continue to live my life as usual. I got sick in November of 2020, with the exact same symptoms as those always described for COVID. But that's besides the point. Whether I had COVID or not (according to you)... I got sick. That much is again not up for debate. At some point I got my vaccines. So did the rest of my family. We're all doing fine, thank you. I go where I want... whenever I want... however I want... and my liberties and freedoms have not been curtailed. Again... the judge of that is ME.

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the plandemic has run it's course. it has been stretched as far as it possibly could. your liberties & freedoms are being chipped away bit by bit. so be ready for the next one. so what is the next crisis that is coming up? some sort of orchestrated war between two main forces? or even staged weather crisis? aliens? space war or accident, food shortage, take your pick. i'm picking a weather manipulation climate crisis. more tsunami's, earthquakes, wild fires, floods, hurricanes, tornado's. i doubt these so called natural disasters will be natural. the current scam is crumbling & there must be a change of course & it is probably being done already & will probably ramp up, intentionally, on purpose, to create more chaos, more crisis, more disorder, because that's how people are controlled

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It's tough to even know where to start with this one. "Liberties and freedoms." Well... speaking for myself, I honestly have not had any discernible liberties or freedoms "chipped away" that I know of. And since it's MY perception that counts regarding MY liberties... that point isn't even up for debate.

"Staged weather crisis"... "weather manipulation." Wow. You're really diving deep into the Conspiracy Theory pool now, eh? Let's just say for a moment that mankind COULD conjure up tsunamis, destructive earthquakes, and (OMG)... hurricanes. To what end? Who's behind this maniacal weather manipulation? What are they trying to accomplish? How do they target the victims of say... a major hurricane? Damn. :vd:

You "doubt these so called natural disasters will be natural"... so you must have some theory about how exactly does one conjure up and use a major hurricane or a tsunami as a weapon and direct it toward a desired target. Double damn. :vd:

Food shortages... yeah. I think everyone understands that these can result from political forces and manipulation, as well as major climactic events. So I'll give you that one.

But back to the COVID "scam". Let's go on your premise that COVID never existed and was just a globally colossal scam. A scam, mind you... that required the unprecedented coordination of governments around the world. A "pulling of the wool over our eyes" of EPIC proportions, complete with fake death numbers... fake scientific data PURPOSELY disseminated by many thousands of corrupt health professionals in a PERFECTLY choreographed song and dance that fooled the entire world. Damn... it hurts me even to write these words. But I'll go along with your wild beliefs just to get to my point.

Let's say it's ALL BEEN FAKE.

You said this: "the current scam is crumbling & there must be a change of course & it is probably being done already & will probably ramp up, intentionally, on purpose, to create more chaos, more crisis, more disorder, because that's how people are controlled"

So what "chaos and disorder" was caused by COVID that must now be furthered by this supposedly "new" scam?

"Because that's how people are controlled..." I see. :rolleyes: But again... I continue to live my life as usual. I got sick in November of 2020, with the exact same symptoms as those always described for COVID. But that's besides the point. Whether I had COVID or not (according to you)... I got sick. That much is again not up for debate. At some point I got my vaccines. So did the rest of my family. We're all doing fine, thank you. I go where I want... whenever I want... however I want... and my liberties and freedoms have not been curtailed. Again... the judge of that is ME.

So...

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peoples freedoms & liberties have been stripped away. just because you haven't been affected doesn't mean others haven't. i personally know people that have lost businesses because of restrictions & lockdowns. i also know people that have had their travel restricted or healthcare restricted. i know nurses that have lost their jobs because they refused to get a vaccine. it hasn't affected me because i live like a free man & do not comply to another persons orders but other people have not been so lucky. but it has created black free markets that have been operating outside the system. weather manipulation has been around for years. i actually worked for a company over here after i left the service that did cloud seeding. we worked with people from around the world on different weather projects. but that is my own experience. you will have to investigate for yourself. it is admitted that america manipulated the weather in the vietnam war. i've heard about tesla's earth quake machine claims. to what end you ask. to keep people in fear. people who are afraid are easily controlled. i see a digital currency being introduced that can track every transaction you make. maybe the qr code tracking system is tweaked & stays in place. i know we are already tracked by our phones & credit cards but cash & not taking your phone out with you makes that harder to do. your freedoms have been chipped away over many years. just look at what flying internationally before nine eleven was like to now. hope you had taken a trip before then & after & can compare the difference. over here most of our guns are gone because of the bullshit port arthur massacre. never let a crisis go to waste

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It's tough to even know where to start with this one. "Liberties and freedoms." Well... speaking for myself, I honestly have not had any discernible liberties or freedoms "chipped away" that I know of. And since it's MY perception that counts regarding MY liberties... that point isn't even up for debate.

"Staged weather crisis"... "weather manipulation." Wow. You're really diving deep into the Conspiracy Theory pool now, eh? Let's just say for a moment that mankind COULD conjure up tsunamis, destructive earthquakes, and (OMG)... hurricanes. To what end? Who's behind this maniacal weather manipulation? What are they trying to accomplish? How do they target the victims of say... a major hurricane? Damn. :vd:

You "doubt these so called natural disasters will be natural"... so you must have some theory about how exactly does one conjure up and use a major hurricane or a tsunami as a weapon and direct it toward a desired target. Double damn. :vd:

Food shortages... yeah. I think everyone understands that these can result from political forces and manipulation, as well as major climactic events. So I'll give you that one.

But back to the COVID "scam". Let's go on your premise that COVID never existed and was just a globally colossal scam. A scam, mind you... that required the unprecedented coordination of governments around the world. A "pulling of the wool over our eyes" of EPIC proportions, complete with fake death numbers... fake scientific data PURPOSELY disseminated by many thousands of corrupt health professionals in a PERFECTLY choreographed song and dance that fooled the entire world. Damn... it hurts me even to write these words. But I'll go along with your wild beliefs just to get to my point.

Let's say it's ALL BEEN FAKE.

You said this: "the current scam is crumbling & there must be a change of course & it is probably being done already & will probably ramp up, intentionally, on purpose, to create more chaos, more crisis, more disorder, because that's how people are controlled"

So what "chaos and disorder" was caused by COVID that must now be furthered by this supposedly "new" scam?

"Because that's how people are controlled..." I see. :rolleyes: But again... I continue to live my life as usual. I got sick in November of 2020, with the exact same symptoms as those always described for COVID. But that's besides the point. Whether I had COVID or not (according to you)... I got sick. That much is again not up for debate. At some point I got my vaccines. So did the rest of my family. We're all doing fine, thank you. I go where I want... whenever I want... however I want... and my liberties and freedoms have not been curtailed. Again... the judge of that is ME.

So...

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peoples freedoms & liberties have been stripped away. just because you haven't been affected doesn't mean others haven't. i personally know people that have lost businesses because of restrictions & lockdowns. i also know people that have had their travel restricted or healthcare restricted. i know nurses that have lost their jobs because they refused to get a vaccine. it hasn't affected me because i live like a free man & do not comply to another persons orders but other people have not been so lucky. but it has created black free markets that have been operating outside the system. weather manipulation has been around for years. i actually worked for a company over here after i left the service that did cloud seeding. we worked with people from around the world on different weather projects. but that is my own experience. you will have to investigate for yourself. it is admitted that america manipulated the weather in the vietnam war. i've heard about tesla's earth quake machine claims. to what end you ask. to keep people in fear. people who are afraid are easily controlled. i see a digital currency being introduced that can track every transaction you make. maybe the qr code tracking system is tweaked & stays in place. i know we are already tracked by our phones & credit cards but cash & not taking your phone out with you makes that harder to do. your freedoms have been chipped away over many years. just look at what flying internationally before nine eleven was like to now. hope you had taken a trip before then & after & can compare the difference. over here most of our guns are gone because of the bullshit port arthur massacre. never let a crisis go to waste

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I know all about cloud seeding. It's not a well-kept secret. So yes, some sort of weather manipulation is possible nowadays. If it was used in Vietnam, then yeah... all's fair in love and war, like they say... and it's not farfetched that the military would use any means at their disposal to get an edge on the enemy. Again... not a huge secret. "Earthquake machines"? As you said... just a claim, to use your words. And again... if the military finds a way to get an edge over the enemy by manipulating things like rain and earthquakes... so be it. It's not right... but then again when was the military ever about doing things right? :rolleyes:

Yes... people have lost jobs and businesses because of the pandemic. (You call it "plandemic", I'll continue referring to it as a pandemic). This effect has been global and across the board. When some sinister force is trying to subvert a group of people or a government, one would have to imagine it would be focused and directed. Just like your claim that future hurricanes will not be "natural" disasters. If you try to do a surgical strike in a crowded room using a hand grenade... you're going about it the wrong way. The people who have lost their jobs and businesses come from ALL walks of life. From EVERY country. From ALL economic sectors. From ALL races and ethnic groups. That's why when I hear claims (not from you) that COVID has disproportionately affected black people... or affected Democrats... well... :vd:

But again to your point. If the way to controlling people is denying them "freedoms and liberties" by fear... again... to what end? There has to be a grand master plan to all this, right? Who's doing it? What do they want people to do as sheeple? Who's to benefit? Again... this has been a global crisis (real or otherwise... authentic or manufactured). Not one group has been exempt from the scourges of this crisis. So.... was the grand scheme (whatever that is) successful??

Your claims about controlling people through "fear" need further explanation. Who wants to control who? You can't just leave it at that. That's the problem with Conspiracy Theories. Mostly they're just a shotgun blast vaguely aimed at something, without giving too much details.

QR codes, smart phones, credit cards, digital currency, yeah... it's called "progress." Can you be tracked? Sure. I've known that for years. I certainly didn't need any Conspiracy Theorist telling me that. You might be too young to remember... but the threat of "Big Brother" watching over your every move has been trumpeted for years. There's a one or two-year old documentary called "Social Dilemma" which talks about many of these things. I think we're all aware that the government (and/or big corporations) likes to gather as much info as possible about as many people as possible. It's a pain in the ass... but unavoidable, unless you choose to live on a deserted island. Frankly, I'd rather have the government's nose a little too far into my business, if the tradeoff is that they'll head off some homicidal nutcase who visits dark sites on the web, before he snaps and shoots up a shopping mall or blows up a building.

Which brings us to 911, which you brought up.

To each his own. I flew plenty before 911 and can very well tell you the difference.

Me? I get to the airport on time and with enough anticipation to go through the security checkpoints that didn't exist before 911. Does that bother me? No. That's the difference between maybe me and you, and between me and a whole bunch of other people who take everything as "they're taking away my rights and liberties." Some f*cking idiots flew planes into the Twin Towers in NYC and the Pentagon in D.C. (I mean... unless you believe that didn't really happen). So now humanity has to become a little inconvenienced when it wants to travel. Big f*cking deal... Again, just speaking for myself. But I'd rather get to the airport two hours early and fly with peace of mind, than spend less time at the airport and worry about some nutcase wanting to blow up the plane.

But I see where you're coming from. You have good points about the people that can't do this or can't do that because they're not vaccinated. It's a touchy subject, because some people have what they believe are good, medical reasons not to get vaccinated. Many of them are not even COVID-deniers. Yet they suffer the consequences of not being vaccinated. I'm not enough of a social expert to know what's the best policy here. In fact, I have family members that have chosen not to get vaccinated. So I understand.

But conspiracy theories for the sake of conspiracy theories is just something I've never been able to get on board with. Again... to each his own. You are certainly free to believe whatever you want... as we ALL do.

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the plandemic has run it's course. it has been stretched as far as it possibly could. your liberties & freedoms are being chipped away bit by bit. so be ready for the next one. so what is the next crisis that is coming up? some sort of orchestrated war between two main forces? or even staged weather crisis? aliens? space war or accident, food shortage, take your pick. i'm picking a weather manipulation climate crisis. more tsunami's, earthquakes, wild fires, floods, hurricanes, tornado's. i doubt these so called natural disasters will be natural. the current scam is crumbling & there must be a change of course & it is probably being done already & will probably ramp up, intentionally, on purpose, to create more chaos, more crisis, more disorder, because that's how people are controlled

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So what you gonna do about it kid? You’re the one with all the knowledge, give us your masterplan.

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where did i say i had all the knowledge & a masterplan?

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You never. You just whinged and moaned and moaned and whinged. But if you don’t have any knowledge or a masterplan, why even bother starting a thread?
Why start a thread about something you, by your own admission don’t have any knowledge on the subject ?

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the plandemic has run it's course. it has been stretched as far as it possibly could. your liberties & freedoms are being chipped away bit by bit. so be ready for the next one. so what is the next crisis that is coming up? some sort of orchestrated war between two main forces? or even staged weather crisis? aliens? space war or accident, food shortage, take your pick. i'm picking a weather manipulation climate crisis. more tsunami's, earthquakes, wild fires, floods, hurricanes, tornado's. i doubt these so called natural disasters will be natural. the current scam is crumbling & there must be a change of course & it is probably being done already & will probably ramp up, intentionally, on purpose, to create more chaos, more crisis, more disorder, because that's how people are controlled

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So what you gonna do about it kid? You’re the one with all the knowledge, give us your masterplan.

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where did i say i had all the knowledge & a masterplan?

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You never. You just whinged and moaned and moaned and whinged. But if you don’t have any knowledge or a masterplan, why even bother starting a thread?
Why start a thread about something you, by your own admission don’t have any knowledge on the subject ?

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are you ok? you seem to be making things up which is unusual for you. usually you & i can discuss things based on what each of says. i never whinged & moaned & whinged & moaned. i just mentioned that freedoms & liberties are being whittled away. advised preparation. asked what the next crisis could be. gave some possible suggestions. gave my prediction & ideas. is there something wrong with making predictions? i never said i don't have any knowledge or any plans. i started the thread to see other opinions on the next possible crisis. i never admitted i don't have any knowledge on the subject. just refuted your statement that claimed i had all the knowledge. i do have plans, i wouldn't call them master plans. depending where they discussion goes i may share some of those ideas

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I know all about cloud seeding. It's not a well-kept secret. So yes, some sort of weather manipulation is possible nowadays. If it was used in Vietnam, then yeah... all's fair in love and war, like they say... and it's not farfetched that the military would use any means at their disposal to get an edge on the enemy. Again... not a huge secret. "Earthquake machines"? As you said... just a claim, to use your words. And again... if the military finds a way to get an edge over the enemy by manipulating things like rain and earthquakes... so be it. It's not right... but then again when was the military ever about doing things right? :rolleyes:

Yes... people have lost jobs and businesses because of the pandemic. (You call it "plandemic", I'll continue referring to it as a pandemic). This effect has been global and across the board. When some sinister force is trying to subvert a group of people or a government, one would have to imagine it would be focused and directed. Just like your claim that future hurricanes will not be "natural" disasters. If you try to do a surgical strike in a crowded room using a hand grenade... you're going about it the wrong way. The people who have lost their jobs and businesses come from ALL walks of life. From EVERY country. From ALL economic sectors. From ALL races and ethnic groups. That's why when I hear claims (not from you) that COVID has disproportionately affected black people... or affected Democrats... well... :vd:

But again to your point. If the way to controlling people is denying them "freedoms and liberties" by fear... again... to what end? There has to be a grand master plan to all this, right? Who's doing it? What do they want people to do as sheeple? Who's to benefit? Again... this has been a global crisis (real or otherwise... authentic or manufactured). Not one group has been exempt from the scourges of this crisis. So.... was the grand scheme (whatever that is) successful??

Your claims about controlling people through "fear" need further explanation. Who wants to control who? You can't just leave it at that. That's the problem with Conspiracy Theories. Mostly they're just a shotgun blast vaguely aimed at something, without giving too much details.

QR codes, smart phones, credit cards, digital currency, yeah... it's called "progress." Can you be tracked? Sure. I've known that for years. I certainly didn't need any Conspiracy Theorist telling me that. You might be too young to remember... but the threat of "Big Brother" watching over your every move has been trumpeted for years. There's a one or two-year old documentary called "Social Dilemma" which talks about many of these things. I think we're all aware that the government (and/or big corporations) likes to gather as much info as possible about as many people as possible. It's a pain in the ass... but unavoidable, unless you choose to live on a deserted island. Frankly, I'd rather have the government's nose a little too far into my business, if the tradeoff is that they'll head off some homicidal nutcase who visits dark sites on the web, before he snaps and shoots up a shopping mall or blows up a building.

Which brings us to 911, which you brought up.

To each his own. I flew plenty before 911 and can very well tell you the difference.

Me? I get to the airport on time and with enough anticipation to go through the security checkpoints that didn't exist before 911. Does that bother me? No. That's the difference between maybe me and you, and between me and a whole bunch of other people who take everything as "they're taking away my rights and liberties." Some f*cking idiots flew planes into the Twin Towers in NYC and the Pentagon in D.C. (I mean... unless you believe that didn't really happen). So now humanity has to become a little inconvenienced when it wants to travel. Big f*cking deal... Again, just speaking for myself. But I'd rather get to the airport two hours early and fly with peace of mind, than spend less time at the airport and worry about some nutcase wanting to blow up the plane.

But I see where you're coming from. You have good points about the people that can't do this or can't do that because they're not vaccinated. It's a touchy subject, because some people have what they believe are good, medical reasons not to get vaccinated. Many of them are not even COVID-deniers. Yet they suffer the consequences of not being vaccinated. I'm not enough of a social expert to know what's the best policy here. In fact, I have family members that have chosen not to get vaccinated. So I understand.

But conspiracy theories for the sake of conspiracy theories is just something I've never been able to get on board with. Again... to each his own. You are certainly free to believe whatever you want... as we ALL do.

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i never said cloud seeding was a secret. there are many people i speak with that have never heard of it though & don't even know that technology exists. i only mentioned weather warfare in vietnam as the mainstream telling us that narrative is true. i wasn't there so i can't claim to know what went on. wasn't trying to pass it off as some huge secret. earthquake machines, it's a possibility, i posted a clip of david bowie talking about black noise. i can't even begin to imagine what types of technology the military & governments must have access to. i disagree that an attempt to subvert would need to be focused & directed. there could be many levels. lots of battles to win the war so to say & it would depend on what the overall goal or plan was. there has been many things that have gone the wrong way with the plandemic narrative. it seems some billionaires increased & certain industries profited. to what end would they want to control us? what's their master plan? i can only give some of my opinions & ideas. i believe they want total control over us. i believe there is some controlling group above what we see as our governments & so called leaders. i believe a one world government with us all under a social credit type system, everything digital, so if you do anything those in control disagree with, you can be shut out. they want to own all the land. basically total control over everyone & everything. parasites, us doing everything & them profiting. i disagree about no group being exempt. our members of parliament over here weren't missing paychecks. as i said i heard certain billionaires & industries had profited. i'm also pretty sure we will see certain fraud claims coming out about pandemic expenditure & funds being misused in the near future. even boris was said to be partying when others were restricted. so for those pulling the strings at the top it was a success. jfk & others have talked about secret societies & powerful groups, so it could be a possibility. i was telling you that you were being tracked. why do you feel the need to label me a conspiracy theorist? can we not just have a discussion? i was just pointing out that i know we are already tracked to an extent. i rather my freedoms. i only mentioned nine eleven to show the difference in freedoms before it & after. your freedoms have been affected further since that day. i don't think it's a touchy subject. people should be free. if someone chooses not get get a medical procedure, that choice should be accepted. i remember you saying that a private business owner should be able to turn away anyone not wearing a mask & i totally agree they should be free to do that, but i think the same freedom should be given to a private business owner who wants to open their business & serve whoever they want. you keep saying conspiracy theories but many things have been brought to light years later that was being done without the publics knowledge. mk ultra, the gulf of tomkin, cia embedded media, operation north woods, nayirah, tuskegee, operation popeye to name a few. these are narratives the mainstream tell us have occurred. without people asking questions & connecting dots the information may have been lost forever & i can only imagine the stuff we are not told about

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the plandemic has run it's course. it has been stretched as far as it possibly could. your liberties & freedoms are being chipped away bit by bit. so be ready for the next one. so what is the next crisis that is coming up? some sort of orchestrated war between two main forces? or even staged weather crisis? aliens? space war or accident, food shortage, take your pick. i'm picking a weather manipulation climate crisis. more tsunami's, earthquakes, wild fires, floods, hurricanes, tornado's. i doubt these so called natural disasters will be natural. the current scam is crumbling & there must be a change of course & it is probably being done already & will probably ramp up, intentionally, on purpose, to create more chaos, more crisis, more disorder, because that's how people are controlled

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It's tough to even know where to start with this one. "Liberties and freedoms." Well... speaking for myself, I honestly have not had any discernible liberties or freedoms "chipped away" that I know of. And since it's MY perception that counts regarding MY liberties... that point isn't even up for debate.

"Staged weather crisis"... "weather manipulation." Wow. You're really diving deep into the Conspiracy Theory pool now, eh? Let's just say for a moment that mankind COULD conjure up tsunamis, destructive earthquakes, and (OMG)... hurricanes. To what end? Who's behind this maniacal weather manipulation? What are they trying to accomplish? How do they target the victims of say... a major hurricane? Damn. :vd:

You "doubt these so called natural disasters will be natural"... so you must have some theory about how exactly does one conjure up and use a major hurricane or a tsunami as a weapon and direct it toward a desired target. Double damn. :vd:

Food shortages... yeah. I think everyone understands that these can result from political forces and manipulation, as well as major climactic events. So I'll give you that one.

But back to the COVID "scam". Let's go on your premise that COVID never existed and was just a globally colossal scam. A scam, mind you... that required the unprecedented coordination of governments around the world. A "pulling of the wool over our eyes" of EPIC proportions, complete with fake death numbers... fake scientific data PURPOSELY disseminated by many thousands of corrupt health professionals in a PERFECTLY choreographed song and dance that fooled the entire world. Damn... it hurts me even to write these words. But I'll go along with your wild beliefs just to get to my point.

Let's say it's ALL BEEN FAKE.

You said this: "the current scam is crumbling & there must be a change of course & it is probably being done already & will probably ramp up, intentionally, on purpose, to create more chaos, more crisis, more disorder, because that's how people are controlled"

So what "chaos and disorder" was caused by COVID that must now be furthered by this supposedly "new" scam?

"Because that's how people are controlled..." I see. :rolleyes: But again... I continue to live my life as usual. I got sick in November of 2020, with the exact same symptoms as those always described for COVID. But that's besides the point. Whether I had COVID or not (according to you)... I got sick. That much is again not up for debate. At some point I got my vaccines. So did the rest of my family. We're all doing fine, thank you. I go where I want... whenever I want... however I want... and my liberties and freedoms have not been curtailed. Again... the judge of that is ME.

So...

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peoples freedoms & liberties have been stripped away. just because you haven't been affected doesn't mean others haven't. i personally know people that have lost businesses because of restrictions & lockdowns. i also know people that have had their travel restricted or healthcare restricted. i know nurses that have lost their jobs because they refused to get a vaccine. it hasn't affected me because i live like a free man & do not comply to another persons orders but other people have not been so lucky. but it has created black free markets that have been operating outside the system. weather manipulation has been around for years. i actually worked for a company over here after i left the service that did cloud seeding. we worked with people from around the world on different weather projects. but that is my own experience. you will have to investigate for yourself. it is admitted that america manipulated the weather in the vietnam war. i've heard about tesla's earth quake machine claims. to what end you ask. to keep people in fear. people who are afraid are easily controlled. i see a digital currency being introduced that can track every transaction you make. maybe the qr code tracking system is tweaked & stays in place. i know we are already tracked by our phones & credit cards but cash & not taking your phone out with you makes that harder to do. your freedoms have been chipped away over many years. just look at what flying internationally before nine eleven was like to now. hope you had taken a trip before then & after & can compare the difference. over here most of our guns are gone because of the bullshit port arthur massacre. never let a crisis go to waste

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Why is the Port Arthur Massacre, bullshit?
I am sure it doesn't feel like that for the victims and their families.

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the plandemic has run it's course. it has been stretched as far as it possibly could. your liberties & freedoms are being chipped away bit by bit. so be ready for the next one. so what is the next crisis that is coming up? some sort of orchestrated war between two main forces? or even staged weather crisis? aliens? space war or accident, food shortage, take your pick. i'm picking a weather manipulation climate crisis. more tsunami's, earthquakes, wild fires, floods, hurricanes, tornado's. i doubt these so called natural disasters will be natural. the current scam is crumbling & there must be a change of course & it is probably being done already & will probably ramp up, intentionally, on purpose, to create more chaos, more crisis, more disorder, because that's how people are controlled

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So what you gonna do about it kid? You’re the one with all the knowledge, give us your masterplan.

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where did i say i had all the knowledge & a masterplan?

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You never. You just whinged and moaned and moaned and whinged. But if you don’t have any knowledge or a masterplan, why even bother starting a thread?
Why start a thread about something you, by your own admission don’t have any knowledge on the subject ?

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are you ok? you seem to be making things up which is unusual for you. usually you & i can discuss things based on what each of says. i never whinged & moaned & whinged & moaned. i just mentioned that freedoms & liberties are being whittled away. advised preparation. asked what the next crisis could be. gave some possible suggestions. gave my prediction & ideas. is there something wrong with making predictions? i never said i don't have any knowledge or any plans. i started the thread to see other opinions on the next possible crisis. i never admitted i don't have any knowledge on the subject. just refuted your statement that claimed i had all the knowledge. i do have plans, i wouldn't call them master plans. depending where they discussion goes i may share some of those ideas

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I’m good thanks, appreciate you asking though. You didn’t say that you didn’t have any knowledge , but you didn’t say you did?
Infact , you said a lot without saying much at all, which is one of your strong pints.
However, if one Protesteth sufficiently to say “I never said I had any knowledge” I legitimately came to the conclusion that you didn’t have any knowledge. Otherwise why protest so vehemently?
Now if everybody used your technique for debating, where would we be?
“I didn’t say I didn’t believe in Covid” “I didn’t say I did believe in Covid.”
“I didn’t say you can catch this through the air” “I didn’t say you can’t catch this through the air”
I get the feeling you don’t know if you’re Arthur or Martha!

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i never said cloud seeding was a secret. there are many people i speak with that have never heard of it though & don't even know that technology exists. i only mentioned weather warfare in vietnam as the mainstream telling us that narrative is true. i wasn't there so i can't claim to know what went on. wasn't trying to pass it off as some huge secret. earthquake machines, it's a possibility, i posted a clip of david bowie talking about black noise. i can't even begin to imagine what types of technology the military & governments must have access to. i disagree that an attempt to subvert would need to be focused & directed. there could be many levels. lots of battles to win the war so to say & it would depend on what the overall goal or plan was. there has been many things that have gone the wrong way with the plandemic narrative. it seems some billionaires increased & certain industries profited. to what end would they want to control us? what's their master plan? i can only give some of my opinions & ideas. i believe they want total control over us. i believe there is some controlling group above what we see as our governments & so called leaders. i believe a one world government with us all under a social credit type system, everything digital, so if you do anything those in control disagree with, you can be shut out. they want to own all the land. basically total control over everyone & everything. parasites, us doing everything & them profiting. i disagree about no group being exempt. our members of parliament over here weren't missing paychecks. as i said i heard certain billionaires & industries had profited. i'm also pretty sure we will see certain fraud claims coming out about pandemic expenditure & funds being misused in the near future. even boris was said to be partying when others were restricted. so for those pulling the strings at the top it was a success. jfk & others have talked about secret societies & powerful groups, so it could be a possibility. i was telling you that you were being tracked. why do you feel the need to label me a conspiracy theorist? can we not just have a discussion? i was just pointing out that i know we are already tracked to an extent. i rather my freedoms. i only mentioned nine eleven to show the difference in freedoms before it & after. your freedoms have been affected further since that day. i don't think it's a touchy subject. people should be free. if someone chooses not get get a medical procedure, that choice should be accepted. i remember you saying that a private business owner should be able to turn away anyone not wearing a mask & i totally agree they should be free to do that, but i think the same freedom should be given to a private business owner who wants to open their business & serve whoever they want. you keep saying conspiracy theories but many things have been brought to light years later that was being done without the publics knowledge. mk ultra, the gulf of tomkin, cia embedded media, operation north woods, nayirah, tuskegee, operation popeye to name a few. these are narratives the mainstream tell us have occurred. without people asking questions & connecting dots the information may have been lost forever & i can only imagine the stuff we are not told about

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There is nothing wrong with being vigilant. And obviously there's a lot wrong with believing everything you hear or read. I've no doubt that there are greater interests out there that would love nothing more than to achieve control over the masses. Which is why I mentioned the "Social Dilemma" documentary. It may have gotten some things wrong... but at least it attempts to open people's eyes to the reality of social manipulation through technology and social media. That "one world government" you and others mention? I've yet to see enough to go on board with that. Do billionaires in this world find a way to profit from even the worst global calamities? You bet they do. Which is why there are so many people without a good set of morals in this world. It's unfortunate, but it's reality. People will profit off other people's misery in a heartbeat.

If you object to being labeled a conspiracy theorist, fine. But one point I need to get across is that like with many other topics in life, conspiracy theories can sometimes be proven right in time... while there is also the tendency to jump off the deep end of the pool. Meaning that to some people... EVERYTHING is a conspiracy. IMHO, people must learn how to pick and choose their battles. I've got no issues with a lot of the conspiracy theories surrounding events like assassinations and things like that. Certainly the JFK assassination has proven to contain more than meets the eye. But c'mon... When people begin to question lunar landings, or whether the Earth is truly round... eyebrows are understandably going to be raised. I'm sorry, but "CONVID" (as you like to put it) to me falls under that category.

It's one thing to question the motives behind an assassination, an attack on another country (I still remember the infamous "Weapons of Mass Destruction"), or other events. Especially when these can be easily faked. But a global pandemic?? Especially when there have been previous such pandemics in history? That's too much of a pill to swallow. I think it's been mentioned here just how incredibly (and impossibly) MASSIVE the coordination of something of this magnitude would have to be. Put all the "Mission Impossibles", "James Bonds", and other spy movies together... and you wouldn't even have one millionth of the scope of what a fake GLOBAL, TWO-YEAR (and counting) pandemic would require.

But the icing on the cake is when you refuse to acknowledge that some of us have had ample personal experiences that prove beyond the shadow of a doubt the existence of this virus which has caused this pandemic. Have death figures been bloated in some instances? Very likely. Human error and human laziness being two of the main factors. I certainly don't think it's because of some sinister plot to reach "X" amount of deaths in a year or a country. Have deaths been attributed to COVID when in actuality the person has died from other causes (which were complicated by the COVID)? Absolutely. Again... human error and laziness takes its toll.

I always come back to the same two words, and those are "Common Sense."