Rigondeaux (please, move up Rigo), Lomachenko, Gary Russell or Orlando Salido OR Mikey Garcia. Someone, anyone... PLEASE... shut this cocky little snotty prick up!
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Rigondeaux (please, move up Rigo), Lomachenko, Gary Russell or Orlando Salido OR Mikey Garcia. Someone, anyone... PLEASE... shut this cocky little snotty prick up!
What has he been saying?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCNoIhKTJ9c&t=52sQuote:
Originally Posted by Ron Swanson
Davis himself is only two fights removed from fighting a guy with 18 losses and is still fighting the feared 'TBA' a month away from his undercard date so he needs to keep things in perspective. Farmer has done well to climb into top 4 spots and is a quality boxer so if Davis is feeling that froggy he could easily fill that date.
And he offered the date to Farmer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
Link? Or was it during that there vid surrounded by Davis people? These guys have been knocking about for a while and much more realistic to happen at this stage than other top tier trinket holders.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron SwansonAnd he offered the date to Farmer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
I'll try to find it. I'm sure I can find Dibella explaining that it isn't the right time for it though. Dibella thinks it's better as a headliner in Baltimore or Pennsylvania after a little building. Be right back with what I can find.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliLink? Or was it during that there vid surrounded by Davis people? These guys have been knocking about for a while and much more realistic to happen at this stage than other top tier trinket holders.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron SwansonAnd he offered the date to Farmer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
First is Farmer saying he may have been offered the fight but he rejects it and will do it his way without seeing the offer
https://youtu.be/KlVZMz4bVbw
Sorry, when i edit links don't work so I'll go gather all links at once and put it in next post but here is Farmer
https://youtu.be/KlVZMz4bVbw
Not sure how credible these channels are so I will link 2 where Lou Dibella explains why it shouldn't happen now. Both guys read text from Lou
https://youtu.be/lasoC-R7ByY
https://youtu.be/06TGKDtNv30
Farmer is a sideshow. Davis is mouthing off, and we should not fall for guys that does not build his resume. Davis has talk, so let him step up to the elite. Beating Farmer or indulging Farmer is a sideshow. It's like Anthony Joshua responding to calls from Chris Arreola (not saying it happened, but it would be like that...)Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron Swanson
Who is Farmer?
Tevin Farmer . He's a World ranked Super Featherweight from the States. Same division as Tank Davis. Davis looked pissed out of his head in that video , and for our American cousins , by Pissed I mean Drunk as a skunk.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Adrien Broner shaped his career. That's all that one needs to know. Well, Mayweather stole him from Broner. Sounds Gay to me....
So you have determined Davis is a snotty cocky gay little prick. Based on a 22 year old kids reaction when drunk coming from a club and running into a boxer that has harassed him for months. Where this snotty cocky gay little prick's(your words) point is get the belt and we can unify.
Mirror man, get one and look ito it
Farmer is a world ranked contender who newly crowned belt holders like a still greenish and not well known Davis needs to sharpen them up and show them things they haven't come close to experiencing. Frankly Davis isn't ready for half the guys mentioned in original op, certainly not Loma, Rigo of Garcia who isn't even same division now.Quote:
Originally Posted by ykdadamajaFarmer is a sideshow. Davis is mouthing off, and we should not fall for guys that does not build his resume. Davis has talk, so let him step up to the elite. Beating Farmer or indulging Farmer is a sideshow. It's like Anthony Joshua responding to calls from Chris Arreola (not saying it happened, but it would be like that...)Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron Swanson
Man that's interesting. Farmer sounds like a guy more worried about losing a high ranking before it pays off more than Davis. He has multiple options but may be seriously over thinking it. I didn't realize Farmer just had surgery for a torn bicep he suffered in April fight and the ibf had already ordered a fight between he and Dib for official mandatory shot at Davis though. So he either fights Davis in very high profile but all or nothing shot on a month and a half notice fresh off injury or he takes more beatable Dib in official eliminator in September with more heal up and Davis will be ordered to face him as #1 anyway. Ideally anyway but looking like that I can see his thinking but that's assuming an awful lot as one cut, inspired opponent or spurned ranking body etc can change all. Be very interested to see who Davis faces now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron Swanson
But DIB pulled out, that's when Farmer asked to be on the card against Davis and Davis said yes. That's why Dibella had to explain why it wasn't going to happen. They think they can do better financially with it as a headliner. Which, fair enough, but this becoming a real problem where contenders are turning down champions.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliMan that's interesting. Farmer sounds like a guy more worried about losing a high ranking before it pays off more than Davis. He has multiple options but may be seriously over thinking it. I didn't realize Farmer just had surgery for a torn bicep he suffered in April fight and the ibf had already ordered a fight between he and Dib for official mandatory shot at Davis though. So he either fights Davis in very high profile but all or nothing shot on a month and a half notice fresh off injury or he takes more beatable Dib in official eliminator in September with more heal up and Davis will be ordered to face him as #1 anyway. Ideally anyway but looking like that I can see his thinking but that's assuming an awful lot as one cut, inspired opponent or spurned ranking body etc can change all. Be very interested to see who Davis faces now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron Swanson
I'm a bit of a hypocrite when it comes to Davis. Because I'm always for best vs best. But on him I agree with you, he just became champion, he's 22. He shouldn't be expected to fight P4P guys yet. If he chooses to great, but he shouldn't be forced to yet. He might progress and it might be a great fight in a year or 2. Look how far he has improved in the last year. No reason to ruin what could be a great fight by having it too early
First time I have heard you be reasonable, you must seriously rate Davis?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron SwansonBut DIB pulled out, that's when Farmer asked to be on the card against Davis and Davis said yes. That's why Dibella had to explain why it wasn't going to happen. They think they can do better financially with it as a headliner. Which, fair enough, but this becoming a real problem where contenders are turning down champions.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliMan that's interesting. Farmer sounds like a guy more worried about losing a high ranking before it pays off more than Davis. He has multiple options but may be seriously over thinking it. I didn't realize Farmer just had surgery for a torn bicep he suffered in April fight and the ibf had already ordered a fight between he and Dib for official mandatory shot at Davis though. So he either fights Davis in very high profile but all or nothing shot on a month and a half notice fresh off injury or he takes more beatable Dib in official eliminator in September with more heal up and Davis will be ordered to face him as #1 anyway. Ideally anyway but looking like that I can see his thinking but that's assuming an awful lot as one cut, inspired opponent or spurned ranking body etc can change all. Be very interested to see who Davis faces now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron Swanson
I'm a bit of a hypocrite when it comes to Davis. Because I'm always for best vs best. But on him I agree with you, he just became champion, he's 22. He shouldn't be expected to fight P4P guys yet. If he chooses to great, but he shouldn't be forced to yet. He might progress and it might be a great fight in a year or 2. Look how far he has improved in the last year. No reason to ruin what could be a great fight by having it too early
My expectations of him are far lower than how good I think he could be. I've seen the guy too drunk too many times. It could be a kid being a kid. But with his background and his friends I don't see it going in a positive direction.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterFirst time I have heard you be reasonable, you must seriously rate Davis?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron SwansonBut DIB pulled out, that's when Farmer asked to be on the card against Davis and Davis said yes. That's why Dibella had to explain why it wasn't going to happen. They think they can do better financially with it as a headliner. Which, fair enough, but this becoming a real problem where contenders are turning down champions.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliMan that's interesting. Farmer sounds like a guy more worried about losing a high ranking before it pays off more than Davis. He has multiple options but may be seriously over thinking it. I didn't realize Farmer just had surgery for a torn bicep he suffered in April fight and the ibf had already ordered a fight between he and Dib for official mandatory shot at Davis though. So he either fights Davis in very high profile but all or nothing shot on a month and a half notice fresh off injury or he takes more beatable Dib in official eliminator in September with more heal up and Davis will be ordered to face him as #1 anyway. Ideally anyway but looking like that I can see his thinking but that's assuming an awful lot as one cut, inspired opponent or spurned ranking body etc can change all. Be very interested to see who Davis faces now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron Swanson
I'm a bit of a hypocrite when it comes to Davis. Because I'm always for best vs best. But on him I agree with you, he just became champion, he's 22. He shouldn't be expected to fight P4P guys yet. If he chooses to great, but he shouldn't be forced to yet. He might progress and it might be a great fight in a year or 2. Look how far he has improved in the last year. No reason to ruin what could be a great fight by having it too early
I'm rooting for him to get a bit more serious though because I think he could be really good.
When I first saw Davis a few years back I thought he was just hype. He seemed like someone who just looked good against inferior competition but wouldn't be able to hang with the top guys in the division. His last 2 fights really impressed me. I'm sold on him.
I agree with Ron that he needs another year to really prove he belongs then he can fight someone like Loma. He just isn't ready at the moment.
Put him in with someone who is someone. Loma, Walters, Donaire, Rigo or even Salido. Guys like that that beat off at the mouth and have snotty attitudes get beat,all the time.
Plus, @ron_Swanson, it is alleged that Davis was the one that shot up Broner's jeep.
It's also been alleged that a man in the clouds created the entire universe for man. He had millions of species created and died off just to eventually arrive at us. He loves us but if we don't put a little bit of water on a babies forehead he will make them burn for eternity. Doesn't make it true.Quote:
Originally Posted by ykdadamaja
Lots of guys get beat all the time. Not just kids that act like kids. I hope his attitude changes as much as anyone. I like to see anyone reach their potential. But hating people doesn't lead to good places.
He has a worse attitude than Broner, if you can fancy that. The kid is an accident waiting to happen.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron SwansonIt's also been alleged that a man in the clouds created the entire universe for man. He had millions of species created and died off just to eventually arrive at us. He loves us but if we don't put a little bit of water on a babies forehead he will make them burn for eternity. Doesn't make it true.Quote:
Originally Posted by ykdadamaja
Lots of guys get beat all the time. Not just kids that act like kids. I hope his attitude changes as much as anyone. I like to see anyone reach their potential. But hating people doesn't lead to good places.
You'll have to be more subtle, you tipped your handQuote:
Originally Posted by ykdadamajaHe has a worse attitude than Broner, if you can fancy that. The kid is an accident waiting to happen.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron SwansonIt's also been alleged that a man in the clouds created the entire universe for man. He had millions of species created and died off just to eventually arrive at us. He loves us but if we don't put a little bit of water on a babies forehead he will make them burn for eternity. Doesn't make it true.Quote:
Originally Posted by ykdadamaja
Lots of guys get beat all the time. Not just kids that act like kids. I hope his attitude changes as much as anyone. I like to see anyone reach their potential. But hating people doesn't lead to good places.