Canelo,GGG,Ward,Kovalev

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05-17-2015, 01:26 PM
imp

Canelo,GGG,Ward,Kovalev

How has to move up and who has to move down?

Fans are selfish and want the best fights.

I see all those fights revolving around Andre Ward.

Beat ward and your the man!

I don't care about Cotto/Canelo or Froch/GGG...it's all about Andre ward.

Once Ward has a couple of fights this year is 2016 going to be the year to see who is the best fighter in the world especially after floyd retires..

Guys, please don't protect these fighters..GGG done another great job last night but I think we all want to see him (as he is in his thirties) get some career defining fights for the history books.
05-17-2015, 03:38 PM
Ron Swanson

One of those guys is not like the others. Kovalev is the top guy at 175, Ward at 168, GGG at 160, we don't know if Canelo is the best at 154(or 155😂)

I agree though, it all revolves around Ward because he's the one that's proven. Others may bring more excitement or more money but Ward can build your legacy.
05-17-2015, 03:45 PM
Dropanuke

Just trying to figure out what makes ward proven? Is it because froch is the only fighter to ruin the left side of wards face?
05-17-2015, 03:47 PM
Ron Swanson

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Originally Posted by Dropanuke

Just trying to figure out what makes ward proven? Is it because froch is the only fighter to ruin the left side of wards face?

Go look at his last 7 opponents.
05-17-2015, 03:53 PM
Dropanuke

Just did and the only name is froch because that's the only credible name.

I mean Edwin Rodriguez was there but rocky fielding would crush him
And Paul smith and Chad Dawson was knocked out in round 1 by Stevenson and Abraham was stopped by Stieglitz easily and Kessler was washed up in America but in his home town can't be beaten.
05-17-2015, 04:32 PM
Primo Carnera

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Originally Posted by Dropanuke

Just trying to figure out what makes ward proven? Is it because froch is the only fighter to ruin the left side of wards face?

When did Froch ruin the left side of Ward's face? All I remember is Froch blocking shots with his face.
Ward also outmuscled Froch on the inside. Completely outclassed him.
05-17-2015, 05:51 PM
imp

Re: Canelo,GGG,Ward,Kovalev

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Originally Posted by Dropanuke

Just did and the only name is froch because that's the only credible name.

I mean Edwin Rodriguez was there but rocky fielding would crush him
And Paul smith and Chad Dawson was knocked out in round 1 by Stevenson and Abraham was stopped by Stieglitz easily and Kessler was washed up in America but in his home town can't be beaten.

Mate,

I like froch, but you must be blind to not see that ward completely outclassed froch in every way.

Froch knows the truth and does not want to retire on a loss which is why that rematch never happened.

If any of the other 3 fighters mentioned beat ward then that is a massive achievement even after a post shoulder surgery version of ward.
05-17-2015, 05:59 PM
Beanflicker

Re: Canelo,GGG,Ward,Kovalev

Everyone is talking about catchweight fights, this guy going up, this guy going down, ect. Why talk about these kinds of fights when there is still unfinished business left for these guys in their own weight class?

Carl Froch and Andre Ward need to rematch to figure out who is the true #1 at 168. That should be the first order of business for both guys.

Miguel needs to man up and make a decision: either you want to be a middleweight (in which case you need to fight GGG immediately), or you don't want to be a middleweight (in which case you vacate the belt and let GGG fight for it). You can't have it both ways. You want to be middleweight champ? You need to fight the guy who everyone feels is the true middleweight champ. If you don't want to be the middleweight champ, then go back down to 154 and fight Canelo or try to get the mega fight rematch with Floyd.

Canelo has a couple of options at 154 including a few undefeated young fighters like Charlo and Andrade.
05-17-2015, 07:39 PM
powerpuncher

Re: Canelo,GGG,Ward,Kovalev

Canelo isn't in the same class yet as the other three.

Ggg has to go up and fight ward eventually but the only problem is that ward could potentially move up in weight too by the time that happens. Ward has to go up and fight kovalev. None of these guys should be forced to go down in weight to fight.
05-17-2015, 09:19 PM
Ron Swanson

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Originally Posted by Beanflicker

Everyone is talking about catchweight fights, this guy going up, this guy going down, ect. Why talk about these kinds of fights when there is still unfinished business left for these guys in their own weight class?

Carl Froch and Andre Ward need to rematch to figure out who is the true #1 at 168. That should be the first order of business for both guys.

Miguel needs to man up and make a decision: either you want to be a middleweight (in which case you need to fight GGG immediately), or you don't want to be a middleweight (in which case you vacate the belt and let GGG fight for it). You can't have it both ways. You want to be middleweight champ? You need to fight the guy who everyone feels is the true middleweight champ. If you don't want to be the middleweight champ, then go back down to 154 and fight Canelo or try to get the mega fight rematch with Floyd.

Canelo has a couple of options at 154 including a few undefeated young fighters like Charlo and Andrade.

It's all so obvious and none of it will happen. Must be Haymons fault
05-18-2015, 01:05 AM
imp

Re: Canelo,GGG,Ward,Kovalev

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Originally Posted by Beanflicker

Everyone is talking about catchweight fights, this guy going up, this guy going down, ect. Why talk about these kinds of fights when there is still unfinished business left for these guys in their own weight class?

Carl Froch and Andre Ward need to rematch to figure out who is the true #1 at 168. That should be the first order of business for both guys.

Miguel needs to man up and make a decision: either you want to be a middleweight (in which case you need to fight GGG immediately), or you don't want to be a middleweight (in which case you vacate the belt and let GGG fight for it). You can't have it both ways. You want to be middleweight champ? You need to fight the guy who everyone feels is the true middleweight champ. If you don't want to be the middleweight champ, then go back down to 154 and fight Canelo or try to get the mega fight rematch with Floyd.

Canelo has a couple of options at 154 including a few undefeated young fighters like Charlo and Andrade.

Cotto is an A side fighter who is scared to death to take another beating.

He knows he can generate big pay days so his best option is Canelo as a beating by ggg will end his career.

Cotto takes a lot of punishment but is taking his time in making the correct business move for himself.
05-18-2015, 01:07 AM
imp

Re: Canelo,GGG,Ward,Kovalev

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Originally Posted by powerpuncher

Canelo isn't in the same class yet as the other three.

Ggg has to go up and fight ward eventually but the only problem is that ward could potentially move up in weight too by the time that happens. Ward has to go up and fight kovalev. None of these guys should be forced to go down in weight to fight.

Totally agree.

Canelo, Ward or GGG should never drop weight and should move forward up the ladder with the pressure on GGG to fight ward.