Re: George Floyd murdered by cops
I don't know about no race war..... but I know it's a sad day when even the news we see with our own eyes are subjected to the cries of Fake News, conspiracies, and other such B.S.
Seems humans have developed this hyper-need for mystery (cue suspense music), as just plain in-your-face news are just too damn boring.
Maybe Floyd was actually an advanced hologram deployed in the middle of the street and never really happened.
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TitoFan
I don't know about no race war..... but I know it's a sad day when even the news we see with our own eyes are subjected to the cries of Fake News, conspiracies, and other such B.S.
Seems humans have developed this hyper-need for mystery (cue suspense music), as just plain in-your-face news are just too damn boring.
Maybe Floyd was actually an advanced hologram deployed in the middle of the street and never really happened.
Agreed there. Over active imaginations and lack of hobbies maybe who knows. Spend enough time inventing boogeymen then you for sure will miss what's happening right in front of your face. Oddly enough beginning to think that every time I hear deep state blah blah too :p.
Re: George Floyd murdered by cops
@TIC oh that explains your lack of fame
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TitoFan
I don't know about no race war..... but I know it's a sad day when even the news we see with our own eyes are subjected to the cries of Fake News, conspiracies, and other such B.S.
Seems humans have developed this hyper-need for mystery (cue suspense music), as just plain in-your-face news are just too damn boring.
Maybe Floyd was actually an advanced hologram deployed in the middle of the street and never really happened.
you see it on tv, that is not proof. the guy could be dead, might not be, we don't know. lots of it seemed staged. i prefer to know the truth rather than just believe. it achieved it's goal
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NoSavingByTheBell
oh that explains your lack of fame
who would want to be famous?
Re: George Floyd murdered by cops
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TitoFan
You just gave a textbook example of how to modify your initial view based on seeing a few more facts. If only everyone here was as flexible...
It's why you and I can totally disagree on something, and yet argue like civil, logical adults. :) But again, if only...
Back to Floyd however. Let's just say he had resisted arrest. I say his killing by the police officer still amounts to murder.
Nowhere in the police handbook does it justify the killing of a citizen because they've resisted arrest.
They're only supposed to use enough force to subdue the person and perform the arrest.
But lately, especially with "white cop/black man", nothing could be further from reality.
Plenty of killings have happened without due cause.
Remember.... the officer's life or welfare must be endangered before he should be able to use lethal force.
We're waaaaaayyyyy beyond that now... don't you think?
Police forces across America are in dire need of a complete overhaul. Gotta get those rotten apples outta there.
I like to be as informed as possible before committing to one side or the other. Otherwise you're just being used by one side or the other as a dupe.
Yes you and I are good like that we can disagree but understand each other's point of view.
If George Floyd HAD resisted in the situation he was in, being subdued is one thing, being murdered is completely different. Even Bernard Kerik former police commissioner of the NYPD said what the officer did was all kinds of wrong. Yes the officer SHOULD be charged with murder and I think the other 3 officers as well need to be charged either with negligence or something because none of them stopped Chauvin from what he did and the whole "just following orders" thing doesn't jive. That said psychologically groupthink is a difficult thing to shake, there's plenty of studies to show the impact of it. So in order to be righteous in response to this a jury would have to take that under consideration.
As for the rotten apples and the cops....well if there's no respect for the law and there's no respect FROM the law then we're going to have trouble. People don't want to live in fear of criminals but likewise they don't want to live in fear of cops. There's a balance, a homeostasis that we need to return to or achieve. Rioting is only going to tear apart the community in which these people live, letting criminal cops slide is only going to tear apart the community in which these people live.
How do we achieve those things is the big question.
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We don't. Because this s*** hole has bad karma. You going down with the ship?
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NoSavingByTheBell
We don't. Because this s*** hole has bad karma. You going down with the ship?
K Brockton, good chat.
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El Kabong
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Originally Posted by
TitoFan
You just gave a textbook example of how to modify your initial view based on seeing a few more facts. If only everyone here was as flexible...
It's why you and I can totally disagree on something, and yet argue like civil, logical adults. :) But again, if only...
Back to Floyd however. Let's just say he had resisted arrest. I say his killing by the police officer still amounts to murder.
Nowhere in the police handbook does it justify the killing of a citizen because they've resisted arrest.
They're only supposed to use enough force to subdue the person and perform the arrest.
But lately, especially with "white cop/black man", nothing could be further from reality.
Plenty of killings have happened without due cause.
Remember.... the officer's life or welfare must be endangered before he should be able to use lethal force.
We're waaaaaayyyyy beyond that now... don't you think?
Police forces across America are in dire need of a complete overhaul. Gotta get those rotten apples outta there.
I like to be as informed as possible before committing to one side or the other. Otherwise you're just being used by one side or the other as a dupe.
Yes you and I are good like that we can disagree but understand each other's point of view.
If George Floyd HAD resisted in the situation he was in, being subdued is one thing, being murdered is completely different. Even Bernard Kerik former police commissioner of the NYPD said what the officer did was all kinds of wrong. Yes the officer SHOULD be charged with murder and I think the other 3 officers as well need to be charged either with negligence or something because none of them stopped Chauvin from what he did and the whole "just following orders" thing doesn't jive. That said psychologically groupthink is a difficult thing to shake, there's plenty of studies to show the impact of it. So in order to be righteous in response to this a jury would have to take that under consideration.
As for the rotten apples and the cops....well if there's no respect for the law and there's no respect FROM the law then we're going to have trouble. People don't want to live in fear of criminals but likewise they don't want to live in fear of cops. There's a balance, a homeostasis that we need to return to or achieve. Rioting is only going to tear apart the community in which these people live, letting criminal cops slide is only going to tear apart the community in which these people live.
How do we achieve those things is the big question.
What a mealy mouthed piss poor excuse. You can't wait to condemn people usually, and yet here you are pretending that there is some kind of circumstance that would make kneeling on someone's neck until they die not murder.
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Beanz
What a mealy mouthed piss poor excuse. You can't wait to condemn people usually, and yet here you are pretending that there is some kind of circumstance that would make kneeling on someone's neck until they die not murder.
Thanks, appreciate it
Re: George Floyd murdered by cops
So I’m hearing this cop had a file of complaints prior to this event. I also heard the DA found additional evidence that would make this difficult to prosecute as murder. Heard that this morning around 6:40a don’t know if the evidence they referred to was released. IMO looked like murder to me. I don’t particularly like cops to begin with. I fought 6 or 7 cops one night, they had surrounded me, I woke up the next morning with bruises in places I didn’t know you could get bruised. There were six of them, yes I deserved a beating but they didn’t need to use clubs.
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walrus
So I’m hearing this cop had a file of complaints prior to this event. I also heard the DA found additional evidence that would make this difficult to prosecute as murder. Heard that this morning around 6:40a don’t know if the evidence they referred to was released. IMO looked like murder to me. I don’t particularly like cops to begin with. I fought 6 or 7 cops one night, they had surrounded me, I woke up the next morning with bruises in places I didn’t know you could get bruised. There were six of them, yes I deserved a beating but they didn’t need to use clubs.
Nope Trump was actually the murderer here :rolleyes:
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El Kabong
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walrus
So I’m hearing this cop had a file of complaints prior to this event. I also heard the DA found additional evidence that would make this difficult to prosecute as murder. Heard that this morning around 6:40a don’t know if the evidence they referred to was released. IMO looked like murder to me. I don’t particularly like cops to begin with. I fought 6 or 7 cops one night, they had surrounded me, I woke up the next morning with bruises in places I didn’t know you could get bruised. There were six of them, yes I deserved a beating but they didn’t need to use clubs.
Nope Trump was actually the murderer here :rolleyes:
Shit again? This dude gotta calm down. He needs to start or stop taking beat juice
Re: George Floyd murdered by cops
Re: George Floyd murdered by cops
The white racist cunt just got arrested and charged with third-degree manslaughter.