1938 Joe Louis was the most complete fighting machine there has ever been at heavyweight.
I truly love Ali, in and out of the ring ......... but Louis was the real thing too.
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1938 Joe Louis was the most complete fighting machine there has ever been at heavyweight.
I truly love Ali, in and out of the ring ......... but Louis was the real thing too.
Ali was all wrong for Joe Louis, who was the 2nd best heavyweight of all time, because Joe had problems with skilled boxers who moved. Ali was also bigger and more durable to lost to Joe.Quote:
Originally Posted by X
its true Joe found slick boxers the most difficult style (he obliterated everyone else 😀)
I'd refer you to Britkids comment earlier, if Joe had been born 40 years later, he would have been a couple of inches taller and a few stone heavier with better diet and nutrition.. If he had been born in the 1980s he could have been bigger than Anthiny Joshua. He was bigger than the average guy than Joshua.
Both all time greats though, what a fight that would have been
It was more the styles than size that would be the reason that Ali would win. If Billy Conn could cause Joe to struggle then Ali would be a nightmare.Quote:
Originally Posted by X
I got involved in a facebook thread where someone had questioned if Ali really was the greatest.
Some guys in their 20s were arguing it was Tyson.
Despite my arguments they were having a none of it, even when I pointed out Tyson never won a fight where he had to overcome adversity - one of them even said none of them were a match for Anthony Joshua:rolleyes: and was being serious.
Is this what we are going to have to endure from the next generation of fight fans.
God help us
Kimbo Slice would kill Ali
is that before or after God killed both of them?
r u talking to me, punk?Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
Well it sucks we lost a legend but he was pretty old and he could not move anymore not sure how good his live was anymore. As for him being unbeatable no fighter really is although Tyson would not be the guy i would chose mental he would implode i give Lewis better shot based on style and size.
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Originally Posted by nvseminr u talking to me, punk?Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
is that anger for no reason?
I've never really understood this logic completely. Of course the very biggest guys are generally bigger now than they were way back when, but how can you say with any confidence that an individual would have been? If Willie Pep were around now, would he be a middleweight? Would Valuev have been 6'4 250 in Louis' era? There wouldn't be any featherweights alive today using that line of thought. By diet and nutrition accounting for that kind of size difference, you are almost implying that Joe Louis would have grown up malnourished or something. If your last point were true I wouldn't have posted this, but I just can't see it being the case? How much bigger is Joshua than the average guy, the dude is a giant!Quote:
Originally Posted by X
The Ali of 1966-67 was unbeatable. The skills of Sugar ray Robinson and the heart of Rocky Marciano with the chin of Ray Mercer. Who tops that?
1978 Leon SpinksQuote:
Originally Posted by mrbig1
64-67 for me, but point on. Cut down heading into his prime.Quote:
Originally Posted by mrbig1