Laboratory only 32km from the food market that was built to study viruses and people warning us this would happen back in 2017.
Coincidence?
https://youtu.be/Yi88ac2PltM
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Laboratory only 32km from the food market that was built to study viruses and people warning us this would happen back in 2017.
Coincidence?
https://youtu.be/Yi88ac2PltM
Means, motive and opportunity mate.
There is a wildlife park ONLY half a mile from an large outbreak area near me.
It was the chimps.
They have been plotting the downfall of humanity to assume their rightful place as the dominant mammal on the planet.
I know this because they always wear funny hats and leaves on their heads in summertime ..... like a crown or a CORONA. That slip up gave the game away.
That's just as likely, to be fair, mate ;D
The forum itself seems to be a producing a few weapons of its own. ;D
They sequenced the DNA for this virus. It's not man made. It likely came from bats. A bat bit some animal that transferred the virus to a human somehow. Probably at that meat market in Wuhan. Why does everybody on this board believe all the crazy shit out there?
The Chinese have eaten what we consider weird shit (bats, frogs etc) for thousands of years, why has this only happened now, not 5 10, 50 years ago?
Alot of people think there's way more to this than we are being told.
Do your own digging instead of taking what mainstream media tells you for gospel
Bottom line is none us of know the truth.
This HAS been happening for thousands of years, Smashup. Spanish flu originated from China as a cross species mutation. More recently, so did swine flu, bird flu and SARS.
being a more connected world has helped it spread faster, plus the news/social media/telephones etc has made the panic spread even quicker than the virus.
If they hadn't named it, and just called it a particularly contagious seasonal flu bug, there may not have been that panic. I remember a 'particularly contagious seasonal flu bug' happening every ten years or so ... and they never published the contagion or death rates then. I have no idea if they killed as many people.
I do agree with you that the media love this stuff. They want headlines and stories that make people buy their papers or subscribe to their 'push' news media. No wonder people are anxious!
I also definitely agree with you that nobody knows the truth, even governments and scientists are still trying to find out what makes this virus tick.
The immediate reaction of governments, and the sheer scale of those reactions is puzzling. Do they know something that they are not publicising! After all, we are told that the death rate is between 1 and 3%. That is not high at all, so why is the entire country of Italy essentially imprisoned? It's those measures that are being taken that are much more worrying .....
(note to self: the actual number of infected people cannot be known as the virus is contagious before the patient starts to display any symptoms. The number of deaths can be and probably is known. Therefore, the death rate must be lower that the current estimates. Why the unprecedented actions by the authorities?
You've nailed it with the Italy story, if this virus ( which is no worse than common flu - so we're being told ) is statistically not that bad then why put an entire country on lockdown?
Doesn't add up at all.
The few theories I've read about are that this virus originated in a lab linked to China's biowarfare programme, others think that the virus is actually a biological weapon engineered by the CIA as a way to wage war on China, Another is that the UK and US governments introduced the virus as a way to make money from a potential vaccine.
I don't really watch any mainstream news at all infact I watch Sky Sports News 9 times out of 10.
But from the figures and stats being put out there I find it absolutely 100% bullshit that it comes remotely close to having to lockdown an entire country of over 60 Million people.
Let's just leave aside the batshit conspiracy stuff. You have to put an entire country under quarantine when something spreads this quickly. It's overwhelming the Italian health service. They're already having to make decisions on who they're going to treat and who they're going to let die. Try reading some actual factual stuff instead of a load of fucking garbage.
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/ar...al-bed/607807/
And how this can impact a country like America:
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1...459003909.html
And this has never happened before? What about SARS, H1N1 and the rest of the coronaviruses we've seen just in the past couple of decades, all the other flu mutations.
This is an absolute fucking disaster. Nobody is going to come out of this ahead. There is no crazy conspiracy shit going on here, what this is is a virus that there is no herd immunity for and no vaccine and which is extremely contagious and which kills ten times more people than flu, which we have vaccines and massive herd immunity for/to already. We know where the virus came from and we know that it isn't man made. We know this. We worked it out. Try getting your information from the world's smart people instead of from the fucking dregs of the internet.
Read @Kirkland Laing post. Read it again. Make it worse because he is being cautious. And you have something close to the truth. And he hasn't touched on the knock on effects which may be the most devastating consequences.
On the other hand.... 'its just fluuuuuuuu'
captain kirk is just spreading fearporn. this has been in the plans for years http://www.centerforhealthsecurity.org/event201/
Tend to believe it may be natures way of tapping us on the shoulder. It's here in the City now and City officials have cancelled many events. I must be really insincere because I'm just dreading the cancellations of major Stateside fight cards, which has to inevitable. Still shaking hands with clients though. Can't conduct business without a handshake and a bottle of hand sanitizer in your back pocket :p
"We know this"
"Worlds smart people"
"We worked it out"
Did we? 🤔
Your just spouting the same shit that the mainstream media tells you and nothing more.
Your also trusting China's version of events.
China - the country that firewalls it's own people and brutally repatriates them in concentration camps for years until they do as they are told.
You should move there I reckon you'd fit right in simply because you are easily brainwashed.
Anyway prove to me beyond any doubt whatsoever that you know exactly how, where and when this virus started.
Then share with us all where you got your information from.
The mainstream media are reporting what the experts and the people involved are telling them. The World Health Organisation had people on the ground in Wuhan as soon as the epidemic started and various labs have analysed and sequenced the DNA of the virus. This is not China's description of events, this is from a multinational team of professionals. For what it's worth, China is now claiming that the virus started in America. For what we've been told by the hundreds of top doctors and experts from multiple nations to be untrue would require hundreds of these top health professionals in the world, people whose lives have been dedicated to public health, to all be lying. Why would they do that? Seriously?
I an not easily brainwashed. I am not the one repeating garbage conspiracy theories he read on facebook or heard from some bloke down the pub. That to me is somebody easily persuaded. Don't you think?
Your just spouting the same stories you've been told are true.
Nobody on here knows how this virus started.
who do you know personally kirk that has died from it? one of the worst days so far for coronavirus was february tenth. on that day, one hundred & eight people in china died of coronavirus. but on the same day twenty six thousand, two hundred & eighty three people died of cancer. twenty four thousand, six hundred & forty one people died of heart disease. four thousand, three hundred died of heart disease. suicide, took twenty eight times more lives than the virus did. mosquitoes kill two thousand, seven hundred & forty people everyday. humans kill thirteen hundred people everyday & snakes kill one hundred & thirty seven people everyday. the hysteria is unwarranted. like the movie v for vendetta says "but the end result, the true genius of the plan, was the fear. fear became the ultimate tool of this government"
What I'm spouting is reported fact according to hundreds of the world's top doctors and healthcare professionals who have dedicated their lives to tackling these kind of epidemics/pandemics. What reason would all of these people have to lie, to all tell the same lie? Can you answer the question? Isn't it fucking obvious that they're all just telling the truth?
compartmentalization, soldiers don't know the battle plans, but the generals do, the soldiers are not privy to that knowledge. same with any corporation, those at the top know stuff the general workers don't, simple
the fed pumped a huge amount of funds into the market today & it still tanked
israel will create a vaccine
The P4 (highest level) Biosafety lab that's extremley close by is what people are finding suspicious.
This P4 laboratory is believed to be a Biowarfare lab by a lot of people.
"It is a co-ordinated attack on China by the USA because the Americans owe them trillions. It is an excuse for full martial law and the enacting of a brutal population control campaign by the elite. It is caused by radiation from 5G masts." Etc etc
https://www.businessinsider.com/chin...o-wuhan-2020-3
The thing is that the Internet may be full of facts to refute unsubstantiated claims but it gives equal weight to the actual scientists and medical experts as anti-vaxers and flat earth believers.
Meanwhile in a lock down street in Tuscanny they lean out their windows and sing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3X0atjDfw8
Another perspective
https://eand.co/why-britains-coronav...y-45c755f1db2d
Fallacious reasoning again Beanz, again with the appeal to authority.
The only belief is by those who imagine themselves to be living on the outside of a spinning pressurized ball in a vacuum. You clearly have no understanding of science and prefer stories and sophistry.
I'm still waiting on your practical demonstrations/ experiments:
A physical practical demonstration/ experiment showing a large body of standing water with the surface naturally displaying convex and conforming to the exterior of a shape.
A physical practical demonstration/ experiment showing a vacuum next to a non-vacuum, without a barrier.
A physical practical demonstration/ experiment showing air pressure being created without a container.
Your experiment proving gravity, telling me what your independent and dependant variables were.
These will do for a start.
Nobody owes you anything. Certainly not the time of day to indulge your infantile fantasy.
You are the fallacious foolhardy fermenter of fuckwittery. Pretending their is no such things as science, facts and expertise because it is trumped by your own conspiracy complex.
Flat earth bullshit might be harmless enough but your anti vaccination bullshit has real consequences.
Idiot.
You are the one with a spinning ball fantasy.
You continuously use fallacious reasoning. I have never pretended there is no such thing as science. In fact I trumpet natural science, objective reality, practical reference and demonstration/ experiment, using tangible substance. No conspiracy, just natural science, as opposed to your faith in pseudoscience.
Argumentum ad hominem attack fallacy isn't measurable proof of the affirmative claim using natural or applied science using tangible substance.
@Alpha
What are your views on this thread topic?
There is a train of thought that due to global warming, and the polar ice caps melting, when they melt they they are releasing hidden and previously "unknown" germs and bacteria into the ecosystem that humans have no immunity to and are stronger than what their newer cousins are.
Expect more germs and stuff to come out. Especially from the Northern and colder climate countries.
This is not so different from Corona Virus as a biological weapon. Weaponizing a vaccine by trying to buy exclusive rights to it. Seriously fuck right off Trump and the hyper capitalists who would look for huge profits in something like this
"BERLIN (Reuters) - Berlin is trying to stop Washington from persuading a German company seeking a coronavirus vaccine to move its research to the United States, prompting German politicians to insist no country should have a monopoly on any future vaccine. ..."
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-h...-idUSKBN2120IV
Instead of luring and exclusivity, the approach should be "how can we help?" How can we collaborate to ensure this is done as swiftly as possible for the benefit of ALL people, regardless of nationality?
But I guess that's like believing in unicorns and pots of gold at the end of rainbows. :mad: :mad:
Besides, it's not like some U.S. firms aren't hard at work searching for a vaccine as well.
It is just another example of the idea that people can be categorised and that we can pretend to roll the clock back and not live on a planet in which everyone is connected and travel for business and pleasure 24hrs a day. Head in the sand stuff will just make it worse. Like people hoarding hand soap and sanitisers? Mental. As though having the cleanest hands on earth is going to help you when all the people who may pass the virus on, can not clean their hands because you nicked all the hand soap :-\ ;D