Re: WARD vs FROCH!!! who wins and why?
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Originally Posted by
ross
Dont think iv seen that clip!
Put it this way, if Froch gets him hurt and Ward does all that ineffective holding and floundering Froch will finish him. Ward looked badly hurt there!
pretty short punch too, not like there was any momentum
doubt you can read that much into it tho
Re: WARD vs FROCH!!! who wins and why?
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Originally Posted by
erics44
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Originally Posted by
ross
Dont think iv seen that clip!
Put it this way, if Froch gets him hurt and Ward does all that ineffective holding and floundering Froch will finish him. Ward looked badly hurt there!
pretty short punch too, not like there was any momentum
doubt you can read that much into it tho
Even Nigel Benn who didnt have the best chin never got dropped like that by a journeyman as he was coming up and as for Eubank you would never see a reaction like that from any current super middle.
It does say that his chin isnt great. A chin doesnt improve like skills or experience do as you progres.
Re: WARD vs FROCH!!! who wins and why?
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Originally Posted by
erics44
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Originally Posted by
ross
Dont think iv seen that clip!
Put it this way, if Froch gets him hurt and Ward does all that ineffective holding and floundering Froch will finish him. Ward looked badly hurt there!
pretty short punch too, not like there was any momentum
doubt you can read that much into it tho
Your right, you shouldn't read into it.
Look at who Ward has fought over recent years.
Miranda, Kessler, Bika, Abraham and even Green.
All those guys have a good punch especially Abraham and Miranda.
None of those guys were able to hurt or drop Ward.
Maybe Froch has the power to hurt Ward but it's not likely imo.
Ward will UD him imo. It will be a tough but clear decision win for him.
Re: WARD vs FROCH!!! who wins and why?
Ward wins points, too fast, too good and better boxer. Froch needs to rough up Andre like he did his mate Dirrell but see Ward as too seasoned to fall for that type of assault from Froch. I hope I am wrong because Carl deserves to be "made" for taking on the best and making it entertaining.
Re: WARD vs FROCH!!! who wins and why?
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Tam Seddon
Carl wants winner takes all on the purses , looks like he means business. :D
Carl Froch always means business and always comes to fight; that's why so many of us have been won over by him. I have no doubt that in his mind there is no way Ward can beat him, I just don't see things the same way.
Re: WARD vs FROCH!!! who wins and why?
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Tam Seddon
I've always known carl would forfill his potential as a great champion. Hes an exciting fighter and I really hope he can beat Ward out of any fighter at 168 I think he has the best chance of achieving this with his resume of great wins of good fighters. It's a very tough fight for both men and I think it will be a close decision either way. I don't see how anybody thinks Ward will beat him easily, there's never an easy nights work with carl froch and he will show that in this fight. Both me will have to put on a career best fight to take this and im backing froch all the way. I can't wait for this fight!!
I know. I remember you talking about him years ago, well before anyone really knew who he was. I did the same thing with Steve Molitor, that didn't work out so well :p.
Re: WARD vs FROCH!!! who wins and why?
I just can't stand Ward's smother/clinch-hit bullshit. Fuck that.
Fight like a man, with no tricks or laying all over a man so he cant fight.
I hope Froch ko's him, and I'm american!!!
Something tells me that Froch will probably need a KO if he wants a win.
I have seen way too many robberies of foreign fighters as of late. It's sickening.
And Ward is the networks "boy", so look for bullshit scores, and a blind ref!!! :)
Re: WARD vs FROCH!!! who wins and why?
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#1FightFan
I just can't stand Ward's smother/clinch-hit bullshit. Fuck that.
Fight like a man, with no tricks or laying all over a man so he cant fight.
I hope Froch ko's him, and I'm american!!!
Something tells me that Froch will probably need a KO if he wants a win.
I have seen way too many robberies of foreign fighters as of late. It's sickening.
And Ward is the networks "boy", so look for bullshit scores, and a blind ref!!! :)
Sad but true. Ward will get away with his holding and headbutting, Evander Holyfield style all night and Froch won't be able to do anything about it. I hope he at least gives Ward a hard shot to the nuts for his trouble.
Re: WARD vs FROCH!!! who wins and why?
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Originally Posted by
Pugilistic
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Originally Posted by
erics44
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Originally Posted by
ross
Dont think iv seen that clip!
Put it this way, if Froch gets him hurt and Ward does all that ineffective holding and floundering Froch will finish him. Ward looked badly hurt there!
pretty short punch too, not like there was any momentum
doubt you can read that much into it tho
Your right, you shouldn't read into it.
Look at who Ward has fought over recent years.
Miranda, Kessler, Bika, Abraham and even Green.
All those guys have a good punch especially Abraham and Miranda.
None of those guys were able to hurt or drop Ward.
Maybe Froch has the power to hurt Ward but it's not likely imo.
Ward will UD him imo. It will be a tough but clear decision win for him.
Ward has learnt to smother and hold to nulify an opponents work and compencate for that chin.
Hopefully Froch has been working on not allowing him to do that.
Check this out. The final round of Ward v Bika. All Ward does is feign a jab to duck in and hold. Theres one point later in the round, close to the last minute where Bika is litterally draging Ward around to try and get him off of him! He was hurt!
http://m.youtube.com/index?desktop_u...?v=3xN-icKEntk
Re: WARD vs FROCH!!! who wins and why?
I think Ward wins, maybe even puts on a clinic
Re: WARD vs FROCH!!! who wins and why?
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Originally Posted by
Pugilistic
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Originally Posted by
erics44
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Originally Posted by
ross
Dont think iv seen that clip!
Put it this way, if Froch gets him hurt and Ward does all that ineffective holding and floundering Froch will finish him. Ward looked badly hurt there!
pretty short punch too, not like there was any momentum
doubt you can read that much into it tho
Your right, you shouldn't read into it.
Look at who Ward has fought over recent years.
Miranda, Kessler, Bika, Abraham and even Green.
All those guys have a good punch especially Abraham and Miranda.
None of those guys were able to hurt or drop Ward.
Maybe Froch has the power to hurt Ward but it's not likely imo.
Ward will UD him imo. It will be a tough but clear decision win for him.
Not one of those guys ever cleanly hit Ward. I can't remember the round but I think Abraham connected once and Ward noticed. The reason why they didn't connect with Ward is because Ward is too slippery to hit. I'm not sure Froch can solve that puzzle.