Why is there still alot of Cotto bashing & hate????

Even tho Cotto keeps winning and beats everyone put in front of him, many of you still down him and trash talk the man! I've been a Cotto fan for a long time & he has done nothing but progress

NSide, I'm sure you remember ROCKYMARSHMELLOW & Magnum those 2 used to be the biggest Cotto-Bashers on here back in 2004-05 when they were still around I remember going on for pages defending Cotto on occasion there was 2 or 3 fellow Cotto fans back then who would jump in and also stand up for Cotto. As with PBF, I've realized with Cotto that no matter how well they perform they will always be critizied. Cottos come a long way since when he 1st started and to see him evolve into what he has become today is something special man. I'm not a PBF as he's not my kind of fighter but I gotta respect him as a fighter and his skills. To see Cotto and say he's one dimensional, glass chin, too slow, over hyped, overrated etc. etc. etc. is silly.
What I say is this, it's fine if your not a fan of his but come on to not see what he's accomplished since his career took off is dumb. The kids not the best boxer out there right now that title belongs to PBF today. But one point PBF wasn't the best boxer on the scene it was RJJ but little by little PBF got the opp. to show his skills. Cottos just trying to do the same, hes a fighter he's said it before.

(In his heavy PR accent) 8)
"I don't do much talking, I train and prepare myself and show up on fight night and go to work. That's my job, my job is not to say bad things about my opponents. I have nothing to say to them, I just want to get in the ring and fight" - Cotto

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Originally Posted by CutMeMick

NSide, I'm sure you remember ROCKYMARSHMELLOW & Magnum those 2 used to be the biggest Cotto-Bashers on here back in 2004-05 when they were still around I remember going on for pages defending Cotto on occasion there was 2 or 3 fellow Cotto fans back then who would jump in and also stand up for Cotto. As with PBF, I've realized with Cotto that no matter how well they perform they will always be critizied. Cottos come a long way since when he 1st started and to see him evolve into what he has become today is something special man. I'm not a PBF as he's not my kind of fighter but I gotta respect him as a fighter and his skills. To see Cotto and say he's one dimensional, glass chin, too slow, over hyped, overrated etc. etc. etc. is silly.
What I say is this, it's fine if your not a fan of his but come on to not see what he's accomplished since his career took off is dumb. The kids not the best boxer out there right now that title belongs to PBF today. But one point PBF wasn't the best boxer on the scene it was RJJ but little by little PBF got the opp. to show his skills. Cottos just trying to do the same, hes a fighter he's said it before.

(In his heavy PR accent) 8)
"I don't do much talking, I train and prepare myself and show up on fight night and go to work. That's my job, my job is not to say bad things about my opponents. I have nothing to say to them, I just want to get in the ring and fight" - Cotto

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LOL pretty Robotic but you got to undersatand mic since we both speak spanish that the way he speaks spanish meaning what he really means to say it doesn't comes of like he wants it to be in english. In spanish he said things knid of more aggressive and leeting their oppoent things like if you are no ready i'm kikicng your but lol something like that

Cotto speaks Spanish?

i prefer to watch fighters like Cotto fight for the excitement, action, entertainment value that he brings every single time he steps in the ring.

i even will be so bold as to say there has never really even been one single boring cotto fight that I can recall?

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Cotto speaks Spanish?

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:-\ great joke

There does seem to be a certain degree of negativity surrounding Miguel Cotto on this forum.
I feel that Miguel deserves the height of respect both for his efforts inside the ring and his gentlemenly (if somewhat reserved) demeanour outside the ropes. However I do feel that is where this negativity is being sourced. Inside the ring it is difficult to find fault. The stumbling wins against Torres and Corley are long forgotten and impressive victories have been racked up. However outside of the ring (outside of puerto Rico) he hasn't completely endeared himself to boxing fans. He is quite, reserved and soft spoken an I feel underestimated in terms of personality after I saw a training vid whee he toyed with a small kid in a boxing gym. When he speaks it's about business, nothing conversational. I don't fault him for it and with each impressive win I see the massses coming round. A great fighter, getting Greater I thinbk.

Hmm it happened a lot to Ricky Hatton as well.

Every fighter gets bashed on at some point. Suppose everyone has different opinions how good certain fighters are.

Im loving Cotto since we saw him beat Mosley..Impressed me.Cant wait to see him fight again.

All top level fighters in the spotlight get bashed. Be it Mayweather, Hatton or even Cotto....they all get bashed for some reason or other. Not always justified but thats the way forums work.

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NSide, I'm sure you remember ROCKYMARSHMELLOW & Magnum those 2 used to be the biggest Cotto-Bashers on here back in 2004-05 when they were still around I remember going on for pages defending Cotto on occasion there was 2 or 3 fellow Cotto fans back then who would jump in and also stand up for Cotto. As with PBF, I've realized with Cotto that no matter how well they perform they will always be critizied. Cottos come a long way since when he 1st started and to see him evolve into what he has become today is something special man. I'm not a PBF as he's not my kind of fighter but I gotta respect him as a fighter and his skills. To see Cotto and say he's one dimensional, glass chin, too slow, over hyped, overrated etc. etc. etc. is silly.
What I say is this, it's fine if your not a fan of his but come on to not see what he's accomplished since his career took off is dumb. The kids not the best boxer out there right now that title belongs to PBF today. But one point PBF wasn't the best boxer on the scene it was RJJ but little by little PBF got the opp. to show his skills. Cottos just trying to do the same, hes a fighter he's said it before.

(In his heavy PR accent) 8)
"I don't do much talking, I train and prepare myself and show up on fight night and go to work. That's my job, my job is not to say bad things about my opponents. I have nothing to say to them, I just want to get in the ring and fight" - Cotto

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LOL pretty Robotic but you got to undersatand mic since we both speak spanish that the way he speaks spanish meaning what he really means to say it doesn't comes of like he wants it to be in english. In spanish he said things knid of more aggressive and leeting their oppoent things like if you are no ready i'm kikicng your but lol something like that

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Thats because he id determined to speak English well....I seen him in an interview where they were going to use a translator,,,,Cotto refused and stated he had been working very hard on his English and asked the interviewer to please be patient with him while he did his best to show what he had learned....Miguel is just determined not to sound illiterate when speaking English...so he tries so hard to pronounce everything clearly he sounds like a speak and say toy......Hats off to the guy for trying to learn a second language and wanting to do it well

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NSide, I'm sure you remember ROCKYMARSHMELLOW & Magnum those 2 used to be the biggest Cotto-Bashers on here back in 2004-05 when they were still around I remember going on for pages defending Cotto on occasion there was 2 or 3 fellow Cotto fans back then who would jump in and also stand up for Cotto. As with PBF, I've realized with Cotto that no matter how well they perform they will always be critizied. Cottos come a long way since when he 1st started and to see him evolve into what he has become today is something special man. I'm not a PBF as he's not my kind of fighter but I gotta respect him as a fighter and his skills. To see Cotto and say he's one dimensional, glass chin, too slow, over hyped, overrated etc. etc. etc. is silly.
What I say is this, it's fine if your not a fan of his but come on to not see what he's accomplished since his career took off is dumb. The kids not the best boxer out there right now that title belongs to PBF today. But one point PBF wasn't the best boxer on the scene it was RJJ but little by little PBF got the opp. to show his skills. Cottos just trying to do the same, hes a fighter he's said it before.

(In his heavy PR accent) 8)
"I don't do much talking, I train and prepare myself and show up on fight night and go to work. That's my job, my job is not to say bad things about my opponents. I have nothing to say to them, I just want to get in the ring and fight" - Cotto

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LOL pretty Robotic but you got to undersatand mic since we both speak spanish that the way he speaks spanish meaning what he really means to say it doesn't comes of like he wants it to be in english. In spanish he said things knid of more aggressive and leeting their oppoent things like if you are no ready i'm kikicng your but lol something like that

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Thats because he id determined to speak English well....I seen him in an interview where they were going to use a translator,,,,Cotto refused and stated he had been working very hard on his English and asked the interviewer to please be patient with him while he did his best to show what he had learned....Miguel is just determined not to sound illiterate when speaking English...so he tries so hard to pronounce everything clearly he sounds like a speak and say toy......Hats off to the guy for trying to learn a second language and wanting to do it well

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Daxx spot on.
I think Cotto is great for the sport and this issue with him learning English is just a demonstration of the effort he puts in...

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NSide, I'm sure you remember ROCKYMARSHMELLOW & Magnum those 2 used to be the biggest Cotto-Bashers on here back in 2004-05 when they were still around I remember going on for pages defending Cotto on occasion there was 2 or 3 fellow Cotto fans back then who would jump in and also stand up for Cotto. As with PBF, I've realized with Cotto that no matter how well they perform they will always be critizied. Cottos come a long way since when he 1st started and to see him evolve into what he has become today is something special man. I'm not a PBF as he's not my kind of fighter but I gotta respect him as a fighter and his skills. To see Cotto and say he's one dimensional, glass chin, too slow, over hyped, overrated etc. etc. etc. is silly.
What I say is this, it's fine if your not a fan of his but come on to not see what he's accomplished since his career took off is dumb. The kids not the best boxer out there right now that title belongs to PBF today. But one point PBF wasn't the best boxer on the scene it was RJJ but little by little PBF got the opp. to show his skills. Cottos just trying to do the same, hes a fighter he's said it before.

(In his heavy PR accent) 8)
"I don't do much talking, I train and prepare myself and show up on fight night and go to work. That's my job, my job is not to say bad things about my opponents. I have nothing to say to them, I just want to get in the ring and fight" - Cotto

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LOL pretty Robotic but you got to undersatand mic since we both speak spanish that the way he speaks spanish meaning what he really means to say it doesn't comes of like he wants it to be in english. In spanish he said things knid of more aggressive and leeting their oppoent things like if you are no ready i'm kikicng your but lol something like that

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Thats because he id determined to speak English well....I seen him in an interview where they were going to use a translator,,,,Cotto refused and stated he had been working very hard on his English and asked the interviewer to please be patient with him while he did his best to show what he had learned....Miguel is just determined not to sound illiterate when speaking English...so he tries so hard to pronounce everything clearly he sounds like a speak and say toy......Hats off to the guy for trying to learn a second language and wanting to do it well

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Daxx spot on.
I think Cotto is great for the sport and this issue with him learning English is just a demonstration of the effort he puts in...

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Cotto is without a doubt good for the sport.....Always performs at his best in the ring and always a gentlemen outside of it.....IMO Cotto has one downfall and it is his defense.....other then that he is one of the sports front runners.....I would have him as the top WW right now outside of Floyd.....In a year or two I think he will make 154 if he wants....

Cotto could surpass Tito in terms of achievement if he stays on track as Puerto Rico's best fighter in the last 25yrs.....

Yes Daxx agreeing with all of that!

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NSide, I'm sure you remember ROCKYMARSHMELLOW & Magnum those 2 used to be the biggest Cotto-Bashers on here back in 2004-05 when they were still around I remember going on for pages defending Cotto on occasion there was 2 or 3 fellow Cotto fans back then who would jump in and also stand up for Cotto. As with PBF, I've realized with Cotto that no matter how well they perform they will always be critizied. Cottos come a long way since when he 1st started and to see him evolve into what he has become today is something special man. I'm not a PBF as he's not my kind of fighter but I gotta respect him as a fighter and his skills. To see Cotto and say he's one dimensional, glass chin, too slow, over hyped, overrated etc. etc. etc. is silly.
What I say is this, it's fine if your not a fan of his but come on to not see what he's accomplished since his career took off is dumb. The kids not the best boxer out there right now that title belongs to PBF today. But one point PBF wasn't the best boxer on the scene it was RJJ but little by little PBF got the opp. to show his skills. Cottos just trying to do the same, hes a fighter he's said it before.

(In his heavy PR accent) 8)
"I don't do much talking, I train and prepare myself and show up on fight night and go to work. That's my job, my job is not to say bad things about my opponents. I have nothing to say to them, I just want to get in the ring and fight" - Cotto

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LOL pretty Robotic but you got to undersatand mic since we both speak spanish that the way he speaks spanish meaning what he really means to say it doesn't comes of like he wants it to be in english. In spanish he said things knid of more aggressive and leeting their oppoent things like if you are no ready i'm kikicng your but lol something like that

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Oh! trust me Puya I know...
I wasn't doing that to make fun of or bash Cotto. That's just the way he speaks.... I have several PR friends here on LA so I know that all to well. Matter a fact Sunday we are having lunch... They said "Arroz con pollo y abichuelas" :)

I love Cotto and that slow speech almost makes him seem calculating nd cold. That game face he has is intimidating and ole' dude comes to fight. He is a great face for this sport, and I can't really see why anyone wouldn't like the guy. It's not like he sits out in the media and bashes every other fighter or acts like an a##. He is a fighter pure and simple, and it's refreshing IMO. If I could have one fight to choose next year, it would be Cotto/Margarito. A classic war, and one for the ages.

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I love Cotto and that slow speech almost makes him seem calculating nd cold. That game face he has is intimidating and ole' dude comes to fight. He is a great face for this sport, and I can't really see why anyone wouldn't like the guy. It's not like he sits out in the media and bashes every other fighter or acts like an a##. He is a fighter pure and simple, and it's refreshing IMO. If I could have one fight to choose next year, it would be Cotto/Margarito. A classic war, and one for the ages.

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Did you see him during the pre-fight at PBF vs. Hatton.
The shoed him sitting ringside as serious as if he was on trial for something.
I turned to my friend and told 'em I bet hes thinking:
"Le' me in the ring, I'll fight both tonight. I have my stuff in the car"
;D

I for one like cotto but just don't think he can beat floyd. A fight between him and margarito to me would be much more exciting

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I love Cotto and that slow speech almost makes him seem calculating nd cold. That game face he has is intimidating and ole' dude comes to fight. He is a great face for this sport, and I can't really see why anyone wouldn't like the guy. It's not like he sits out in the media and bashes every other fighter or acts like an a##. He is a fighter pure and simple, and it's refreshing IMO. If I could have one fight to choose next year, it would be Cotto/Margarito. A classic war, and one for the ages.

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Did you see him during the pre-fight at PBF vs. Hatton.
The shoed him sitting ringside as serious as if he was on trial for something.
I turned to my friend and told 'em I bet hes thinking:
"Le' me in the ring, I'll fight both tonight. I have my stuff in the car"
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Yeah I saw him all in his suit and was thinking how out of place he looked wearing it. He seemed like he would rather be beating someone silly then dressed up for a show. It's funny people kind of joke about how he speaks English, but who cares? I personally would look like an idiot trying to speak Puerto Rican, and couldn't look 1/16th as cool trying to do it as he does speaking English. I understand him better than I did Hatton; hell I think I understand Puerto Rican better than I understand Ricky's English ;D

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I love Cotto and that slow speech almost makes him seem calculating nd cold. That game face he has is intimidating and ole' dude comes to fight. He is a great face for this sport, and I can't really see why anyone wouldn't like the guy. It's not like he sits out in the media and bashes every other fighter or acts like an a##. He is a fighter pure and simple, and it's refreshing IMO. If I could have one fight to choose next year, it would be Cotto/Margarito. A classic war, and one for the ages.

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Did you see him during the pre-fight at PBF vs. Hatton.
The shoed him sitting ringside as serious as if he was on trial for something.
I turned to my friend and told 'em I bet hes thinking:
"Le' me in the ring, I'll fight both tonight. I have my stuff in the car"
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LMAO.....

Yeah agreed with Mick.

Only difference was to me he looked like an executioner to the right hand of the judge observing a "whos's next" trial.

When the fight was completed he had the same expression kind of like "so be it...."

I actually find it strange when I see him smile! I'm used to that cold,calcuated look! Man,make Marg v Cotto happen,it would be one for the ages!

Cotto is the typer fighter who can have an exciting fight with anybody...

Cotto Williams would be entertaining as a result of a polar clash of styles and Williams slim frame inviting the bodyshot.

Cotto Margarito would be a rough and tumble fightwith testosterone following as much as blood.

Cotto PBF....well I think Cotto may have the best chance as he throws a lot and is more solid on his feet than Rick.

Cotto Berto: Probably not as wanted as the others, but a fight i'd like.

Whilst I am not particularly a Cotto fan I do think he gets a lot of unfair press but can understand where some of it may come from.

Was hurt badly against Torres and Corley. For me he was weight drained and had no issues against Moseley.
We won't fight the other top WW. He may not want to fight the other belt holders but he does want PBF. He also beat Moseley.
He has not fought a top fighter in their prime. Moseley still had enough about him to beat a lot of the top WW today.

All in all these are all the same accusations that have been thrown at other unbeaten fighters, Hatton/ PBF etc and will always be the case.

Lets judge him after he hangs up the gloves or is fighting when he is like 46 and way past it.

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I actually find it strange when I see him smile! I'm used to that cold,calcuated look! Man,make Marg v Cotto happen,it would be one for the ages!

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Cotto looks like a Hitman :-\

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Cotto Berto: Probably not as wanted as the others, but a fight i'd like.

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If team Berto have any type of care for their fighter they'd steer clear of Cotto until later in Cottos career. Not now, he'd end up in the Pinto/Maussa category "a beat up prospect". I remember even when Berto was like 15-0 people here were already talking about him fighting Margarito & Cotto. ::** Some people....

See what Berto does in the year or so you may be surprised i believe in the guy but i might be wrong.

I remember when Tito was on his reign of destruction and the Island of Puerto Rico embraced him as their national hero, it was like he was the prince of the country. Years after the retirement he is looking at the way the Island has now embraced Cotto as the new national hero and he has gotten jealous and taken a useless fight against RJJ. PR is going to back Cotto just like they did Tito

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Even tho Cotto keeps winning and beats everyone put in front of him, many of you still down him and trash talk the man! I've been a Cotto fan for a long time & he has done nothing but progress

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I love Cotto, but some of his rabid fans on here (one of them in particular) are so fucking annoying that it's no surprise that you hear people hating on him. It's the Royal/Kessler phenomenon.

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Even tho Cotto keeps winning and beats everyone put in front of him, many of you still down him and trash talk the man! I've been a Cotto fan for a long time & he has done nothing but progress

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i give the fella top respect. Think he is a great fighter, just do not think he is at PBF level but that is just my opinion. Fo sho tho you wouldnt catch me slating him.

I liked the way Cotto hardly spoke about his fighting at all until around the time he won his WBO. Then his first words were.
"I want to fight Oscar Dela Hoya".

I think he should. I think that should be his next fight.

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Cotto Berto: Probably not as wanted as the others, but a fight i'd like.

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If team Berto have any type of care for their fighter they'd steer clear of Cotto until later in Cottos career. Not now, he'd end up in the Pinto/Maussa category "a beat up prospect". I remember even when Berto was like 15-0 people here were already talking about him fighting Margarito & Cotto. ::** Some people....

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I'm not suggesting immediatly, however Miguel is a relatively young champion embarking on what I feel will be a long reign at the top and Bertois a young prospect on his way up.

With Cotto set to be around let's say 4 more years and Berto on his way up for four, they will find themselves in the same bracket sooner or later. No?

No hating or bashing coming from me...Cotto is awesome and on his way up!! I would love to see him beat Mayweather ( Cotto doesn't tire ) so I see him winning. ;D

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No hating or bashing coming from me...Cotto is awesome and on his way up!! I would love to see him beat Mayweather ( Cotto doesn't tire ) so I see him winning. ;D

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Yes he does he certainly did tire in the later stages with Mosley.

i don't know how anyone can't like cotto. hes a great guy and a hell of a exciting fighter. the only haters i feel he has are mayweather fans