Mikey Garcia v Sandor Martin Saturday

Honest question...what has happened to Mikey ???. A fighter who went from the edge of main stream stardom and daring to be great going after Spence to now literal obscurity. Basically went for the mega money and turned down Regis Prograis. Fights tomorrow night on Dazn in a CW v Sando Martin out of Spain and have heard zero about it and not even sure if he's headlining the card. Main event (?) has Lt. Flyweight champ Elwin Soto 19-1 making his 4th defense v Puerto Ricos Jonathan Gonzalez 24-3-1.

Mikey Garcia was so good to watch and hugely talented. He took the impossible option of jumping weight and taking on Spence. He has wasted away his career when he should be one of the outstanding stars.

Just glad he is back and being busy.

Elwin Soto in a bit of a hole going into the 8th round. Gonzalez doing a solid job of hitting and moving with Soto showing a one track mind and style. Jack Reiss making himself seen and heard par for the course :-X.

Wow Soto locks the left arm of Gonzalez and twists it back..gets warning from ref but that type of stuff needs a point deducted right off.

Scoring in this one is going to be all over the block, two totally different styles pick your poison. Points will go for outright aggression but Gonzalez is making him look very basic when close to the ropes. Gets off and gets out clean and sharper hitter. smart boxing

Gonzalez raises hands hoisted up by corner and Soto looks resigned in corner. Think Gonzalez did well enough to take the title but better grab the kids and hide under the table..here come the judges

Did Soto get a point taken off, I didn't hear, it was quite a blatant attempt at cheating

Cards taking 4 minutes to tabulate :wisesmilie:

116-112..Soto..116-112 Gonzalez..116-112 and new champ Gonzalez. Fair enough

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Originally Posted by palmerq

Did Soto get a point taken off, I didn't hear, it was quite a blatant attempt at cheating

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Don't believe he did. Reiss further chastised him in corner so sort of makes it worse he didn't do anything. Little Tyson-Botha right there :-X

Should be a blitz job from Castro here. Clear sign of knowing your role is having his next two fights v TBA lined up :-X.

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Originally Posted by Spicoli

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Originally Posted by palmerq

Did Soto get a point taken off, I didn't hear, it was quite a blatant attempt at cheating

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Don't believe he did. Reiss further chastised him in corner so sort of makes it worse he didn't do anything. Little Tyson-Botha right there :-X

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It was a pretty obvious, you could tell who the favoured guy was for sure, bad work referee

Ring announcer David Diamonte doing some Jambi cosplay here. Haney ringside calling out Mikey

Different levels pretty much on display Mikey getting close behind hard jabs. Martin clips him clean and scoots away. Walking him down.

Martin takes 3 and 4th :-X. Mikey looks lethargic trying to get on that left side against the southpaw. Martin landing clean in spots and riding out

Sandor Martin is out boxing him Mikey bulls him late 5th and squares and unloads well. Garcia may have nicked that round. Who can make more mistakes

Martin 6th round just better cleaner boxing. Mikey walked right onto a couple late little effect but looking def sluggish. Just hate this weight for Garcia very ordinary

Another Martin round. Doing the hitting and leaving Mikey crossed over himself with that movement. Feet looked bad. Mikey needs to go all in and do it now!

Hard work for Garcia, he might even be losing, only half watching as I'm doing something now, I expected a one sided beating though, is this for a title?

Not sure what I'm watching but Martin is doing it very well, Martin takes 8th. Left down the middle cracking Mikey good. Mikey needs to do something devastating over next two round. He's behind

Good pressure 9th for Mikey kept close and both hands working, shut Martin down for most part. Have this 6-3 Martin but I'm prob more sober than the judges.

Evening chaps. Just got in and it's nearly the end of the fight. The commentators say Garcia is losing and it kinda looks like that. Flat plodding performance against an unknown. Is it really that bad? I bet the Spanish kid gets robbed anyway.

Garcia was coming on pretty well at the end, Martin was still countering good in the last round, Martin gets the decision, well done to him, but what was Garcia doing...

the judges got it right

Garcia needs to kick in the door and he's just following him around. He looks pooped and Martin doing his flurry and fall away. Mikey surged late in 10th, kept him on ropes for a second but he really had his ears boxed tonight. 96-92 territory for me MArtin

95-95..97-93 x2 Sandor Martin for the win :bananna7:. Have to say surprised on more counts than one! Well done on all fronts

two of the judges got it right i should say

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Originally Posted by palmerq

Garcia was coming on pretty well at the end, Martin was still countering good in the last round, Martin gets the decision, well done to him, but what was Garcia doing...

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That weight and dumb division jump for me. Hard luck coming back up he should have taken the Prograis fight

I thought Garcia was coming on a lot better as it went on, two more rounds could have been the difference, maybe he's just not been fighting enough and like you say the weight jump.... Good work by the spainards though

Mikey "DAD BOD" Garcia
Believed his own hype, decided he didn't want to train, ballooned in weight and got beat by more dedicated fighters that took their careers more seriously.
Now he's begging for a rematch against a regional fighter.
You don't need a rematch Mikey. You need to rededicate yourself to the sport, or retire.
You ain't all that without the effort.

Mikey Garcia ducked Loma.

He knew he would loose to Spence for loads of money so he settled with that.

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Originally Posted by ruthless rocco

Mikey "DAD BOD" Garcia
Believed his own hype, decided he didn't want to train, ballooned in weight and got beat by more dedicated fighters that took their careers more seriously.
Now he's begging for a rematch against a regional fighter.
You don't need a rematch Mikey. You need to rededicate yourself to the sport, or retire.
You ain't all that without the effort.

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Have to say pretty much spot on. Once he jumped up got sloppy and over content taking short cuts. You're making what multi millions to fight Jessie Vargas the writings on the wall. Shame really for a talented fighter.

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Originally Posted by imp

Mikey Garcia ducked Loma.

He knew he would loose to Spence for loads of money so he settled with that.

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Hard to argue otherwise. He wasn't beating Spence

Love him or hate him, Teo stepped up to the plate and beat Loma in a 8-4 fight.

I don’t know why he won’t fight Haney but that’s another discussion.

Mikey looked out of shape and waited too long for the pac fight and massive paydays, he can’t get up for fights like these anymore.

Expect a crossover MMA/Boxing or celebrity boxing fight soon!

I really don't consider this much of a huge upset. I've never thought there was anything elite about Mikey Garcia apart from his pumpkin head.

The post-fight interview from Garcia was just as telling as his lackluster performance. Neither Garcia nor his team/entourage seemed to care a whole lot. With the grand ring entrance, it almost feels now like it was a retirement fight. After all Martin only got paid $150k for that win. Mikey got paid $1.5mil.

Mikey has lost both the will to compete and win several years ago. Now he is just another shot fighter to me who should retire

I agree with the previous posts. That time out in the ring makes me think now is the time to let go the idea that at least Hispanics will continue the tradtion of fighting frequent. It is conclusive; the era of fighting several times a year is now a thing of the past.

sandor arrasandor martin put in another good performance with a wide decision over jose felix. keeps him edging towards a title shot. ricards v hrvoje was good