Sullivan
Louis
Robinson
Clay-Ali
Yours?:cool:
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Sullivan
Louis
Robinson
Clay-Ali
Yours?:cool:
I really struggle to list Sullivan, Jeffries.
Jeffries beat almost everybody worth fighting! Jackson, Fitzsimmons, Corbett, Sharkey. But Sullivan made the transition from bareknuckle to gloves under the Marquess of Queensberry Rules.
Jack Johnson who was way ahead of his time and stuck 2 fingers up to white racist society.
True, his level of skill as rugged as it looks to us, was pretty fancy stuff back then!
I think I rate Sullivan on him being there before the others, but as u stated in the other thread, Jeffries is probably the man who deserves to be called a pioneer for beating everyone, only for an ill advised comeback he'd be undefeated with a stacked resume, not padded.
I rate Jack Johnson as a better heavyweight in his prime, or on the mythical P4P list but not so much as a pioneer since he himself had problems with other black fighters. Hard to say if he gave those others of his brothers a chance...he may not have had the title for any length of time.
Ali
Robinson
Marciano (need a white guy up there)
Khan
For the whole of boxing just 4 guys? That is insanely difficult to do.
Joe Louis, Sugar Ray Robinson, Willie Pep, Rocky Marciano
That's mine anyway. I was about to put Archie Moore or Hank Armstrong up there as well...really difficult to whittle it down to just 4. I guess a more modern one would be Tyson, Floyd, Duran, RJJ. Though shouts could be made for Lennox, Evander, Ray Leonard, Hopkins, and Calzaghe.
Jack Johnson, Jack Dempsey, Rocky Marciano, Muhammad Ali
Sugar Ray Robinson
Sugar Ray Leonard
Muhammad Ali
Roberto Duran
SRR
SRL
Ali
RJJ
Seeing as it is Mount Rushmore .... ;D
Roberto Duran - Hands of STONE
ROCKy Marciano
Sonny Liston - Old STONEFACE
Primo Carnera - the Ambling ALP
When I think of the Mount Rushmore of a sport, I don’t necessarily look at who was the best but who created the biggest impact. Although being the best can go hand in hand with impact. Looking at it that way, this would be my list.
Dempsey, Louis, Ali, Tyson
Although it seems blasphemous to keep SRR off the list, I think that Mount Rushmore has to be filled with more known fighters that last through generations. And despite you liking it or not, the heavyweight division is where the biggest ratings come from.