Re: Your personal P4P 1 with their best three wins?
I rate Gamboa as Crawford's best win too. Postol clear second and Khan/Beltran third (one is by far the superior name, the other in better form at the time).
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P4P 1 - Inoue
Top 3 wins - Rodriguez, Payano, Narvaez
I'll go with this one. No contest.
In my opinion, the distance between Inoue and Usyk is very close. @Fenster did you reveal your list?
I'd go with Loma. Why? When judging P4P I value talent/skill above names on the record. His style is unique, impossible to replicate, and he's beaten the strongest opposition in the least amount of fights.
Inoue has been my "favourite" for years, however, I don't believe his opposition is as strong. I think I can make a case for several guys... depending on the criteria.
And the top 3 opponents? Number of fights can be dependant on many situations and opportunities, my opinion is tough challengers are better to measure
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Fair play, Fenny, this is a really interesting thread.
My p4p #1 would be either Crawford or Inoue. But if you put AJ’s best 3 wins (Wlad, Povetkin and Parker Whyte.) then If you judged it with this formula, that would stack up pretty well against Crawford.
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would you put AJ above Crawford? Like I said, it’s interesting.
Can I ask you who to list as your Crawford's best 3 wins?
Certainly. The 3 that I would put are :
Burns - just because it was his breakthrough fight at elite level. People can think you’re gonna be great and have an outstanding career, but you’ve still got to go out and do it. And in the champion’s Back yard.
Beltran - more impressive than the Burns fight because Beltran had convincingly “beaten” Burns and got robbed on the cards.
Postol - fresh off winning the title off Matthysse and with 28-0 record, Postol wasn’t an easy fight whilst Crawford was moving up in weight as well.
Arigatōgozaimashita, deciding a top 3 can be difficult. My opinion would be Gambao, Postol, Indongo
Loma's top three? In no order... Rigo, Linares and Walters (I think the Walters win is very underrated - not only were there "experts" picking him, he was unbeaten, KO'd Donaire and Darchinyan, beat Unbeaten Marriaga and subsequent title holder Sosa). And Loma forced these no. 1 ranked "champions," in their respective divisions, to
quit.
I was going to put Walters because of those very same reasons you mentioned and I had been very impressed by him. However the man has essentially retired from the game and never fought since that loss. At least Russell Jr has done well and remained undefeated.
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I still think that Russell is Loma’s best win. Russell is the only one to have proven to have been legit even after their fight. I know you can argue that he ruins careers but Russell showed that he wasn’t a fraud.
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The Walters situation with Loma was weird. I felt like it was supposed to be a great fight but Walters had a long layoff and looked completely off from the beginning. Maybe Loma just made him look silly and frustrated him early, but I don’t think that Walters looked competent even before Loma did anything.
I could be wrong, but I just think that Loma caught Walters at a perfect time. It’s unfortunate too because I wish they could have fought when Walters was seen as a p4p fighter.
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I'd have Inoue at 1, with his 3 fights at 118 I guess.
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I rate Gamboa as Crawford's best win too. Postol clear second and Khan/Beltran third (one is by far the superior name, the other in better form at the time).
Sorry Fenster sir. I listed names not order I give. Postol my choice best win