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"London is no longer an English city" - John Cleese exposes himself as evil "racist"
https://www.theguardian.com/culture/...n-english-city
Cleese, 79, tweeted that his friends abroad agreed with his observation, concluding: “So there must be some truth in it.”
The actor later issued a qualified apology following widespread condemnation. In a string of tweets countering accusations that his initial tweet was linked to race, he said: “I suspect I should apologise for my affection for the Englishness of my upbringing, but in some ways I found it calmer, more polite, more humorous, less tabloid, and less money-oriented than the one that is replacing it.”
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Re: "London is no longer an English city" - John Cleese exposes himself as evil "raci
If a city is 41% foreign born then isn't Cleese just making a factual observation? Indeed, if he is happy living among non-white people is he also still racist? Would I be racist for suggesting that if Tokyo becomes a majority white city that Japanese culture has been reduced? Does it mean one is now racist against white people? It all gets so silly.
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No John Cheese is not making a factual observation at all. He is opining. London is still in England. It is therefore still an English city. A city is more than the people that live in it but you can hardly expect the capital city of any country to be free of people from outside of it's borders. When Cleese said this in 2011 and London was awarded the Olympics you would have thought the magnificent job done by another non-Englsih person in Danny Boyle in showcasing Great Britain to the world in 2012, might have allowed him a smidgeon of Pride in his home country and it's capital city, but no, it seems some English people will moan whatever happens and seek to have their version of English culture define what it really is for everyone else.
Watson, the gobby bastard step-child of a human beetroot and a droopy lipped pouting skinny vault boy soyboy hipster is predictably eager to add in his own ex-pat spin to pretend that Cheese was endorsing his own actual overt racism. 'White British People' seem to be top of his list of required box ticking to qualify someone as English. So presumably Black or Asian British people don't count. Does that mean white Welsh, Scottish or Northern Irish White British people counting as English now as long as they live in London? His first predictable shot away from his irony failing pro globalist map background is of Muslim women..Hooray! can't possibly be Engish..because? They are not wearing bowler hats? Straight out with the strawman 'i am the victim' argument of 'England is the most English City' which nobody has made in order to push his own fascist nationalist agenda.
It is a common putrid tactic of the most vociferous of ex-pats to want to lie like this and he carries on in the same way with his false assertion that the mainstream Dom Joly is not only a fawning left wing comedian but that he is now condemning John Cleese an actor, writer and Comedian Joly was clear about admiring but chose to disagree with on this point. That is how duplicitous the scrawny cunt has to be in order to work his fans into a xenophobic fervour. Not content he than has to use another favourite tactic of racist ex-pats in pretending that Joly must himself be racist, because despite being born in Beirut and living in London until just before the birth of his kids. Living in a part of England with a 95% white population means not only that the even more ignorant old school versions of racism non-white,non-English people have to put up with there don't exist but again being white is what being English is all about.
Can you see a theme emerging?
Doubling down ,living in a British colony in which you can buy your citizenship, amazingly only by investing in the poisonous sugar trade (that enslaved it inhabitants) is now apparantly proof that nobody living there can be racist. Why? because they have a convenient ready made pool of black friends to point to when needed presumably. The whole argument these racist ex-pat bigots espouse is then encapsulated in an oft repeated inversion of the truth.
Watson suggests that merely having a different opinion or pointing out the racist or bigoted views of others is now virtue signalling. The reality of course is that it is those ex-pats like Watson and Cleese who are virtue signalling their own 'Englishness' in this faux concern for a country they do not give a flying fuck about. You could hardly be more inauthentic or unpatriotic than abandoning the country you supposedly love because you think there are not enough white people in it's capital city.
This is not enough though.
Watson then trebles down by again suggesting that being non-white is not English with his knife crime fetishization.
You can dress it up as you like. Cheese does not seem to be a racist and certainly nobody has called him an 'Evil racist' ...(well Fenster has but I am sure he was quoting a real person and not his own opinion)
But Watson
and many, many ex-pats
are quite clearly
Racist cunts.
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I've heard a couple of people use that Tokyo/Japan comparison, they were called racists as it implies you think "Englishness" means white. And the common theme is nothing defines white Englishness or Britishness apart from being evil racists.
What winds me up is people can't offer their own experiences and observations without some 20-30 year-old "educated victim" telling them they're an evil cunt who owes them something.
Old girl, born in London, rings radio station to say - I agree with Cleese, nobody talks English anymore at bus stops and shops, nobody even smiles at me, it used to be more friendly, the white people don't speak English (she obviously means all the Eastern Euros) - she's an evil racist.
Middle age black man (windrush parents), born in London, says - I agree with Cleese, people used to offer the elderly/disabled a seat on public transport, hold doors open, now they stare out the windows or at their phones - he's an uncle Tom.
An old Asian/Indian man, lived in London 50 years, says - I agree with Cleese, driving has become unbearable, all they do his honk the horn and shout, rush, rush, rush like back home. So many people.
Now, when one or two people say it we can brush it off as paranoia/personal feelings, it's common for people to confuse their own personal lives with the wider reality, however, when fucking thousands are saying the same thing, then maybe they have a point.
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Beanz, why do people like Dom, Lily, Billy Bragg and the like choose to live in a 96% white area, though? Old English country towns/villages, isolated, beautiful places?
What is different from the majority asian/muslim areas? Black? Eastern European?
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Originally Posted by
Fenster
I've heard a couple of people use that Tokyo/Japan comparison, they were called racists as it implies you think "Englishness" means white. And the common theme is nothing defines white Englishness or Britishness apart from being evil racists.
What winds me up is people can't offer their own experiences and observations without some 20-30 year-old "educated victim" telling them they're an evil cunt who owes them something.
Old girl, born in London, rings radio station to say - I agree with Cleese, nobody talks English anymore at bus stops and shops, nobody even smiles at me, it used to be more friendly, the white people don't speak English (she obviously means all the Eastern Euros) - she's an evil racist.
Middle age black man (windrush parents), born in London, says - I agree with Cleese, people used to offer the elderly/disabled a seat on public transport, hold doors open, now they stare out the windows or at their phones - he's an uncle Tom.
An old Asian/Indian man, lived in London 50 years, says - I agree with Cleese, driving has become unbearable, all they do his honk the horn and shout, rush, rush, rush like back home. So many people.
Now, when one or two people say it we can brush it off as paranoia/personal feelings, it's common for people to confuse their own personal lives with the wider reality, however, when fucking thousands are saying the same thing, then maybe they have a point.
The Tokyo/Japan thing is not a great comparison to make though. Many Japanese are notoriously racist. Racist ironically mainly because the country itself was run by those seeking to ape white, mainly colonial powers after years of resisting outside influences. Just like many of the countries Japan rushed to emulate may not have been the greatest example to copy, I don't think Japan and Tokyo are some kind of ideal to strive toward either.
Yes of course there will be idiots calling any conversation about the changing demographics of Britain an example of 'Evil Racists' but it is just as misleading to pretend they represent a seismic portion of British society as it is to pretend that all Brits are racist. I am just as exasperated at false outrage from those across the political spectrum, at perceived sleights and injustices that are not only directed toward them, but often quite benign and valid opinions. It does not mean though that when professional agitators like Watson use the same outrage tactics to pretend to speak for people who clearly do not share their vacuous stupidity, they should not be challenged on such assumptions.
A lot of the complaints you related seem to be about society in general across the west. There are plenty of really rude horrible old people around and plenty of white English bastards of all ages.
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Fenster
Beanz, why do people like Dom, Lily, Billy Bragg and the like choose to live in a 96% white area, though? Old English country towns/villages, isolated, beautiful places?
What is different from the majority asian/muslim areas? Black? Eastern European?
Why do I speak for them? Honestly ask yourself why would I know?
Maybe because when you get older, and specifically when you have kids, you do not want to put up with the sheer volume of people, traffic and hecticness that defines living in a big city. When you have kids you usually need a larger property and the practicalities of bringing up kids , the school run, sleepless nights etc makes commuting a non-option. So you move. I lived in a tent in Biggin Hill and then a shared room in a house in Bromley for about 8 months but I could not have afforded to move into anywhere bigger if I had kids back then. Even though I was earning very good money.
If you think that living in what you consider a typically Old English country town or village is an indication of those moving there being racist (and i know you don't but that is precisely the argument PJW and other racist ex-pats make) then that seems to me to be projection.
Why didn't you ask about Black British celebrity moving out into the countryside?
Big cities even with largely white populations are inevitably going to have more crime, pollution etc.
Billy Bragg is just a bloke from Barking who happens to be a musician whose lives are defined by playing traveling for much of there working lives often to a new town every night for months at a time. He is also a brilliant example of somebody who loves, documents and celebrates England. Why should that mean he has to live in the place where he was born?
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Fenster
I've heard a couple of people use that Tokyo/Japan comparison, they were called racists as it implies you think "Englishness" means white. And the common theme is nothing defines white Englishness or Britishness apart from being evil racists.
What winds me up is people can't offer their own experiences and observations without some 20-30 year-old "educated victim" telling them they're an evil cunt who owes them something.
Old girl, born in London, rings radio station to say - I agree with Cleese, nobody talks English anymore at bus stops and shops, nobody even smiles at me, it used to be more friendly, the white people don't speak English (she obviously means all the Eastern Euros) - she's an evil racist.
Middle age black man (windrush parents), born in London, says - I agree with Cleese, people used to offer the elderly/disabled a seat on public transport, hold doors open, now they stare out the windows or at their phones - he's an uncle Tom.
An old Asian/Indian man, lived in London 50 years, says - I agree with Cleese, driving has become unbearable, all they do his honk the horn and shout, rush, rush, rush like back home. So many people.
Now, when one or two people say it we can brush it off as paranoia/personal feelings, it's common for people to confuse their own personal lives with the wider reality, however, when fucking thousands are saying the same thing, then maybe they have a point.
There is a racial element to that argument, but by the same token you could say 'What if Tokyo became dominated by Filipinos?' it would still mean the loss of traditional Japanese culture. There is nothing wrong with being foreign, but it is inarguable that it dilutes a native culture. My mate is married to a Filipino and she brings with her the culture and even family. It is understandable. If you import 10 million version of me, Walrus, and Lyle, you are not like to be getting much J-pop or anime fetishism going on. At least I am good enough to only import albums. In my case you would be getting Morrissey, Partridge, and Orwell. Interestingly enough The Guardian gave the new Morrissey album a predicable drubbing. It is of course a solid covers album and his voice is as good as always.
I also dispute the argument that 'Many Japanese are notoriously racist'. That is in itself a pretty bigoted generalisation to make and from someone who has never set foot inside Japan despite saying he would like to go. I know people who live in Japan and have families there and are quite content and not moaning about excessive racism. I have been there several times myself and always had a very pleasant time and been helped when lost every time as I cannot navigate. My only complaint is the food as I am a picky eater, but otherwise, it is a beautiful country, but I am sure there are some good old fashioned racists like anywhere.
The irony here though is that the ones The Guardian quotes as having an issue with Cleese are indeed all leafy white suburbs types. Lily Allen still hasn't taken in a migrant yet either. What a racist! At least John Cleese is honest. I think the left likes to virtue signal a lot and use others tax money, but would never really want to live in a no go zone or open their house to a non background checked economic migrant. Otherwise, they really would just do it.
Cleese says the UK has gone wrong and has left and good for him I say.
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You dispute the fact that anyone can be racist unless you deem them to be. That is the ludicrousness of your argument. There are few bigger virtue signalers on the forum than you, an ex-pat bigging up the English who choose to leave rather than stay and fight for, and contribute towards, the type of England they want.
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Beanz, i'm asking your opinion about white people who choose to live in all-white parts of the country, that's all. Attempting to understand it? Lovely spacious villages? Farms? Acres of land? Wonderful islolated coastal towns? Beautiful beaches. Church bells. Fish and chips. Heaven.
You often defend the privileged, rich and famous, that's all. Feel free to add any rich black/asian hypocrite to the white celebrities roster i've named.
Did these people ever scout Tower Hamlets for a home? Wonder why?
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I'm sure John Cleese isn't some sort of White Supremacist Nazi figure and there's surely a good explanation for his misspeaking/wrongthink....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f--KSEkC8Ik
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I merely pointed out that you have no experience of Japan. I do have experience of living in several non multicultural and multicultural British cities and have visited many countries thus I find it easy to compare and contrast and then of course add data to the picture. Your comment was pure unmerited bigotry/racism and you do it all the time. So welcome to club racist. If I wasn't married I would probably have moved to Japan myself. Nowhere is perfect but I guarantee you won't get ripped off or feel hard done by by anyone if you go. It's a lovely and safe place.
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Gandalf
I merely pointed out that you have no experience of Japan. I do have experience of living in several non multicultural and multicultural British cities and have visited many countries thus I find it easy to compare and contrast and then of course add data to the picture. Your comment was pure unmerited bigotry/racism and you do it all the time. So welcome to club racist. If I wasn't married I would probably have moved to Japan myself. Nowhere is perfect but I guarantee you won't get ripped off or feel hard done by by anyone if you go. It's a lovely and safe place.
I am not disputing the fact that you may have lived somewhere other than Yorkshire, but that does not make you an expert, or my opinion some kind of feeble conjecture based on ignorance. Many of my family have lived all over the world. Sometimes being schooled there, living with indigenous people and often studying the very cultures you love to opine on, and it is quite clear that racism can be found anywhere. It is not bigotry or racist to point out how racist many Japanese people are, that is simply a fact, you in you rush to virtue signal your worthiness, insist on censoring and trying to bury under the carpet.
My comment about racist Asians was based on conversations and interactions for 30 years with my Dads second wife, who is Asian. After meeting her and marrying her in the Solomon islands, my old man lived in Japan for a whole and has been back many times. But no...you had to assume i was being the type of person you love to hate.
It gets pretty tiresome.
Of course anyone can be racist. I can remember when visiting my brother in Kelvin Glasgow and going down to the local off license being so taken aback by not just the fact it was all barred up, and that they handed you the booze through a hatch like a bank, at the speed and strength of the little Indian ladies Glaswegian accent, I nearly burst out laughing. Does that make me a racist? Maybe? Who cares?
Everyone is a hypocrite if they are truly human. It's good to recognise that.
I shall probably go to Japan in 2021 with the other half for our 50th.
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El Kabong
It's called Free Speech and respecting the fact that someone can have a different opinion to you. That is part of being English. You should try it. PJW does not seem to understand that. Which is why he is not a great example of an Englishman.
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Beanz
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Gandalf
I merely pointed out that you have no experience of Japan. I do have experience of living in several non multicultural and multicultural British cities and have visited many countries thus I find it easy to compare and contrast and then of course add data to the picture. Your comment was pure unmerited bigotry/racism and you do it all the time. So welcome to club racist. If I wasn't married I would probably have moved to Japan myself. Nowhere is perfect but I guarantee you won't get ripped off or feel hard done by by anyone if you go. It's a lovely and safe place.
I am not disputing the fact that you may have lived somewhere other than Yorkshire, but that does not make you an expert, or my opinion some kind of feeble conjecture based on ignorance. Many of my family have lived all over the world. Sometimes being schooled there, living with indigenous people and often studying the very cultures you love to opine on, and it is quite clear that racism can be found anywhere. It is not bigotry or racist to point out how racist many Japanese people are, that is simply a fact, you in you rush to virtue signal your worthiness, insist on censoring and trying to bury under the carpet.
My comment about racist Asians was based on conversations and interactions for 30 years with my Dads second wife, who is Asian. After meeting her and marrying her in the Solomon islands, my old man lived in Japan for a whole and has been back many times. But no...you had to assume i was being the type of person you love to hate.
It gets pretty tiresome.
Of course anyone can be racist. I can remember when visiting my brother in Kelvin Glasgow and going down to the local off license being so taken aback by not just the fact it was all barred up, and that they handed you the booze through a hatch like a bank, at the speed and strength of the little Indian ladies Glaswegian accent, I nearly burst out laughing. Does that make me a racist? Maybe? Who cares?
Everyone is a hypocrite if they are truly human. It's good to recognise that.
I shall probably go to Japan in 2021 with the other half for our 50th.
If it was a fact you would be able to quantify it in some way or at the least have examples. Have you actually experienced this racism? You are speaking to someone that has spent 2 decades in Asia and I just ain't seeing it how you are. You get your Ryan Boundless types who see gloom in everything, but most are just living ordinary and rather content lives. My friend married there with kids is happy enough and no real issues.
Maybe my view of racism is less like yours too. I was speaking to a Japanese girl about the UK and she was horrified by the immigration issues. She would be racist to you, but a normal girl to me. Nobody wants their country overrun completely. That's not racism. It is simply opposing very bad politics.
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Beanz
It's called Free Speech and respecting the fact that someone can have a different opinion to you. That is part of being English. You should try it. PJW does not seem to understand that. Which is why he is not a great example of an Englishman.
I'm well aware of what free speech is and isn't I'm having a laugh at the absurdity of how the UK is handling the situation these days. I bring up Cleese mocking Nazi's in an episode of Fawlty Towers because Count Dankula makes a video of him being a cheeky boy and turning his girlfriend's (now wife) pug into a Nazi and he is CHARGED WITH A HATE CRIME, he's threatened with jail, he's been made to pay fines and for fucking what? He was doing nothing any other comedian in the 20th century did and he's not celebrating Nazis I wouldn't think the 3 actual Nazis left on planet Earth would be all "Wunderbar! Hey guys a Pug has joined our ranks! Ist das nicht das Beste? Sie sind die überlegene Rasse!" the fucking mindset one has to have to consider it "racist hate speech" is scary to be quite honest. I've met some dumb people in my life but I'm not so certain I've met anyone so dumb as to believe Dankula turned his now wife's pug into a follower of Hitler or that Cleese is some sort of hatemonger for daring to notice the dramatic demographic shift in London over the course of his life.
I know jokes are up for interpretation and that everything might not garner a laugh or even a hearty chuckle but for fucks sake getting so offended the law is called on the comedian in question says quite a lot about the fucking state of freedom of speech in your neck of the woods. Cleese made a comment, he's not wrong AT ALL, and people will now attack him for daring to notice the changes....what a time to be alive.
You don't think PJW is a good example of an "Englishman" ....alright then who is? I'd imagine you wouldn't be listing out Churchill, Rhodes, Isaac Newton, Sir Walter Raleigh, Charles Darwin, William Shakespeare, Henry VIII, Earnest Shackleton, Captain James Cook, General Montgomery, Geoffrey Chaucer, but hell maybe you would...who qualifies as "representative of England" certainly not John Cleese now?
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I have never been a huge fan of Cleese however he is bang on, one of the reasons I don't go out in London anymore.
Factually he is right, but i would still class London as an English city even if only by location.
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El Kabong
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Originally Posted by
Beanz
It's called Free Speech and respecting the fact that someone can have a different opinion to you. That is part of being English. You should try it. PJW does not seem to understand that. Which is why he is not a great example of an Englishman.
I'm well aware of what free speech is and isn't I'm having a laugh at the absurdity of how the UK is handling the situation these days. I bring up Cleese mocking Nazi's in an episode of Fawlty Towers because Count Dankula makes a video of him being a cheeky boy and turning his girlfriend's (now wife) pug into a Nazi and he is CHARGED WITH A HATE CRIME, he's threatened with jail, he's been made to pay fines and for fucking what? He was doing nothing any other comedian in the 20th century did and he's not celebrating Nazis I wouldn't think the 3 actual Nazis left on planet Earth would be all "Wunderbar! Hey guys a Pug has joined our ranks! Ist das nicht das Beste? Sie sind die überlegene Rasse!" the fucking mindset one has to have to consider it "racist hate speech" is scary to be quite honest. I've met some dumb people in my life but I'm not so certain I've met anyone so dumb as to believe Dankula turned his now wife's pug into a follower of Hitler or that Cleese is some sort of hatemonger for daring to notice the dramatic demographic shift in London over the course of his life.
I know jokes are up for interpretation and that everything might not garner a laugh or even a hearty chuckle but for fucks sake getting so offended the law is called on the comedian in question says quite a lot about the fucking state of freedom of speech in your neck of the woods. Cleese made a comment, he's not wrong AT ALL, and people will now attack him for daring to notice the changes....what a time to be alive.
You don't think PJW is a good example of an "Englishman" ....alright then who is? I'd imagine you wouldn't be listing out Churchill, Rhodes, Isaac Newton, Sir Walter Raleigh, Charles Darwin, William Shakespeare, Henry VIII, Earnest Shackleton, Captain James Cook, General Montgomery, Geoffrey Chaucer, but hell maybe you would...who qualifies as "representative of England" certainly not John Cleese now?
I think you have no idea what free speech is to be honest, and you most certainly are not just having a laugh about it. It is a crusade much more vocal and shouty than any of the people simply expressing opinions you seek to terminate by misrepresentation. The point is that you have been dictating to us in the UK here on the forum, exactly what free speech should mean, relentlessly, for years now. Not just expressing your view but insisting that we all must adopt your definition. Now you telling us what it means to be English. Just like you did with the insulting derogatory assumption that a steroid abusing WWF wrestler was someone we should all hold in high esteem. :-\
You are eager to believe Watson, a fringe racist hipster that the majority of the British public have even heard of. Why? because he is willing to lie to you and pretend that Dom Joly, who is abut as mainstream as a TV comedian could get is now magically MR far left because he dared to comment on Cleese's tweet. So you don't believe in free speech at all really.
The point is no one figure can be representative of what it means to be English but all those you foist upon us and hold in such high esteem are nothing of the kind. Milo? fucking give me a break ;D Benjamin who came last and could not get elected , Robinson who did so badly he had to give up his deposit ;D and then you bring up Dankula a fucking nobody who is Scottish...fucking hell man, Maybe keep your powder dry if you have no idea what you are talking about.
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Gandalf
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Beanz
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Gandalf
I merely pointed out that you have no experience of Japan. I do have experience of living in several non multicultural and multicultural British cities and have visited many countries thus I find it easy to compare and contrast and then of course add data to the picture. Your comment was pure unmerited bigotry/racism and you do it all the time. So welcome to club racist. If I wasn't married I would probably have moved to Japan myself. Nowhere is perfect but I guarantee you won't get ripped off or feel hard done by by anyone if you go. It's a lovely and safe place.
I am not disputing the fact that you may have lived somewhere other than Yorkshire, but that does not make you an expert, or my opinion some kind of feeble conjecture based on ignorance. Many of my family have lived all over the world. Sometimes being schooled there, living with indigenous people and often studying the very cultures you love to opine on, and it is quite clear that racism can be found anywhere. It is not bigotry or racist to point out how racist many Japanese people are, that is simply a fact, you in you rush to virtue signal your worthiness, insist on censoring and trying to bury under the carpet.
My comment about racist Asians was based on conversations and interactions for 30 years with my Dads second wife, who is Asian. After meeting her and marrying her in the Solomon islands, my old man lived in Japan for a whole and has been back many times. But no...you had to assume i was being the type of person you love to hate.
It gets pretty tiresome.
Of course anyone can be racist. I can remember when visiting my brother in Kelvin Glasgow and going down to the local off license being so taken aback by not just the fact it was all barred up, and that they handed you the booze through a hatch like a bank, at the speed and strength of the little Indian ladies Glaswegian accent, I nearly burst out laughing. Does that make me a racist? Maybe? Who cares?
Everyone is a hypocrite if they are truly human. It's good to recognise that.
I shall probably go to Japan in 2021 with the other half for our 50th.
If it was a fact you would be able to quantify it in some way or at the least have examples. Have you actually experienced this racism? You are speaking to someone that has spent 2 decades in Asia and I just ain't seeing it how you are. You get your Ryan Boundless types who see gloom in everything, but most are just living ordinary and rather content lives. My friend married there with kids is happy enough and no real issues.
Maybe my view of racism is less like yours too. I was speaking to a Japanese girl about the UK and she was horrified by the immigration issues. She would be racist to you, but a normal girl to me. Nobody wants their country overrun completely. That's not racism. It is simply opposing very bad politics.
Yes I have experienced that racism with Asian people in London laughing and making monkey sounds at Black people. Come on man we don't all have to announce the time we went on a bus or used public transport as though that 'was an adventure' :-\ I will just assume that someone born in Asia who speaks 8 languages and has taught all over the world might just possibly be an even better authority than you when as well if that is OK? ;D Is your friend white by any chance? ;)
You were horrified by vegetables only a few years back so again I don't really rate your shock as being reflective of anything but your own conservatism.
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Dark Lord Al
I have never been a huge fan of Cleese however he is bang on, one of the reasons I don't go out in London anymore.
Factually he is right, but i would still class London as an English city even if only by location.
But then you call Liverpool 'Cesspool' when the majority of English people would see it as a city with very important cultural highlights. ;D
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Beanz
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Originally Posted by
Dark Lord Al
I have never been a huge fan of Cleese however he is bang on, one of the reasons I don't go out in London anymore.
Factually he is right, but i would still class London as an English city even if only by location.
But then you call Liverpool 'Cesspool' when the majority of English people would see it as a city with very important cultural highlights. ;D
Cesspool because of LFC.
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Dark Lord Al
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Beanz
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Originally Posted by
Dark Lord Al
I have never been a huge fan of Cleese however he is bang on, one of the reasons I don't go out in London anymore.
Factually he is right, but i would still class London as an English city even if only by location.
But then you call Liverpool 'Cesspool' when the majority of English people would see it as a city with very important cultural highlights. ;D
Cesspool because of LFC.
Fair play. I feel the same about Exeter Shitty ;D
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I have never been a huge fan of Cleese however he is bang on, one of the reasons I don't go out in London anymore.
Factually he is right, but i would still class London as an English city even if only by location.
But then you call Liverpool 'Cesspool' when the majority of English people would see it as a city with very important cultural highlights. ;D
Cesspool because of LFC.
Fair play. I feel the same about Exeter Shitty ;D
Yes Dark Lord Al is a Spurs fan on Saturday Evening for one day only.
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I am hoping my support for the Jewish football team Spurs for one day only will make me better at accounting.
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I am hoping my support for the Jewish football team Spurs for one day only will make me better at accounting.
Well after all those Michelin dinners the days of you moving like Benny Leonard are probably gone. I always moved more like Benny Hill personally.
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I merely pointed out that you have no experience of Japan. I do have experience of living in several non multicultural and multicultural British cities and have visited many countries thus I find it easy to compare and contrast and then of course add data to the picture. Your comment was pure unmerited bigotry/racism and you do it all the time. So welcome to club racist. If I wasn't married I would probably have moved to Japan myself. Nowhere is perfect but I guarantee you won't get ripped off or feel hard done by by anyone if you go. It's a lovely and safe place.
I am not disputing the fact that you may have lived somewhere other than Yorkshire, but that does not make you an expert, or my opinion some kind of feeble conjecture based on ignorance. Many of my family have lived all over the world. Sometimes being schooled there, living with indigenous people and often studying the very cultures you love to opine on, and it is quite clear that racism can be found anywhere. It is not bigotry or racist to point out how racist many Japanese people are, that is simply a fact, you in you rush to virtue signal your worthiness, insist on censoring and trying to bury under the carpet.
My comment about racist Asians was based on conversations and interactions for 30 years with my Dads second wife, who is Asian. After meeting her and marrying her in the Solomon islands, my old man lived in Japan for a whole and has been back many times. But no...you had to assume i was being the type of person you love to hate.
It gets pretty tiresome.
Of course anyone can be racist. I can remember when visiting my brother in Kelvin Glasgow and going down to the local off license being so taken aback by not just the fact it was all barred up, and that they handed you the booze through a hatch like a bank, at the speed and strength of the little Indian ladies Glaswegian accent, I nearly burst out laughing. Does that make me a racist? Maybe? Who cares?
Everyone is a hypocrite if they are truly human. It's good to recognise that.
I shall probably go to Japan in 2021 with the other half for our 50th.
If it was a fact you would be able to quantify it in some way or at the least have examples. Have you actually experienced this racism? You are speaking to someone that has spent 2 decades in Asia and I just ain't seeing it how you are. You get your Ryan Boundless types who see gloom in everything, but most are just living ordinary and rather content lives. My friend married there with kids is happy enough and no real issues.
Maybe my view of racism is less like yours too. I was speaking to a Japanese girl about the UK and she was horrified by the immigration issues. She would be racist to you, but a normal girl to me. Nobody wants their country overrun completely. That's not racism. It is simply opposing very bad politics.
Yes I have experienced that racism with Asian people in London laughing and making monkey sounds at Black people. Come on man we don't all have to announce the time we went on a bus or used public transport as though that 'was an adventure' :-\ I will just assume that someone born in Asia who speaks 8 languages and has taught all over the world might just possibly be an even better authority than you when as well if that is OK? ;D Is your friend white by any chance? ;)
You were horrified by vegetables only a few years back so again I don't really rate your shock as being reflective of anything but your own conservatism.
I am not sure I believe anything you say really as you have this habit of making things up. However, I will take my knowledge of interacting with tens of thousands of Asian people to suggest that examples of actual racism are remarkably rare. Sure, you will get a couple of kids of 8 playing up in a racist way occasionally as children are playful and push boundaries, but never have I seen adults making monkey sounds at black people or anything of the sort.
What does speaking 8 languages have to do with being an expert on racism? And then stupid comments about vegetables? It puts into perspective what a loser you are I guess. Have a nice day at your computer in white land.
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Who cares what some has-been from Weston super mare thinks?
Ironically, his home town isn't a Somerset town any more either, its full of Brummies and Welsh 😀
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@Fenster @smashup
I think the both of you live in London or have lived in London. What are your honest takes on the city today? How do you feel about life there? About the changes? The pros? The cons? All of that.
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I am hoping my support for the Jewish football team Spurs for one day only will make me better at accounting.
Well after all those Michelin dinners the days of you moving like Benny Leonard are probably gone. I always moved more like Benny Hill personally.
Yes I move more like Big George in his second career, I'm no fancy Dan for sure.
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I think the both of you live in London or have lived in London. What are your honest takes on the city today? How do you feel about life there? About the changes? The pros? The cons? All of that.
It's unrecognisable. When I was a kid I remember when certain areas became predominantly "black," it looked really strange, now those areas are predominantly East European or Asian/Muslim, and the black people have filtered to the suburbs.
I said a few years ago, after spending about ten years hiding, I was shocked at spending all day and night in A&E. Hundreds after hundreds of people and no English/Brits. Get on a bus, no English. Entire high streets full of shops, no English/Brits.
Not saying it's a bad thing. Just bizarre.
I don't think people should be scared of discussing why groups of the "same" people live together. Trevor Phillips - of all people - said multiculturalism hasn't worked.
It's why I can't stand JK, Billy, Lily and Dom calling everyone evil racists whilst sitting in their 100% white areas. Why do they CHOOSE to live in those areas? Why? :rolleyes: Why do muslims live together? Africans? Poles? Romanians? Chinese?
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I think the both of you live in London or have lived in London. What are your honest takes on the city today? How do you feel about life there? About the changes? The pros? The cons? All of that.
It's unrecognisable. When I was a kid I remember when certain areas became predominantly "black," it looked really strange, now those areas are predominantly East European or Asian/Muslim, and the black people have filtered to the suburbs.
I said a few years ago, after spending about ten years hiding, I was shocked at spending all day and night in A&E. Hundreds after hundreds of people and no English/Brits. Get on a bus, no English. Entire high streets full of shops, no English/Brits.
Not saying it's a bad thing. Just bizarre.
I don't think people should be scared of discussing why groups of the "same" people live together. Trevor Phillips - of all people - said multiculturalism hasn't worked.
It's why I can't stand JK, Billy, Lily and Dom calling everyone evil racists whilst sitting in their 100% white areas. Why do they CHOOSE to live in those areas? Why? :rolleyes: Why do muslims live together? Africans? Poles? Romanians? Chinese?
So Cleese was pretty much correct in his views and opinions?
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I think the both of you live in London or have lived in London. What are your honest takes on the city today? How do you feel about life there? About the changes? The pros? The cons? All of that.
It's unrecognisable. When I was a kid I remember when certain areas became predominantly "black," it looked really strange, now those areas are predominantly East European or Asian/Muslim, and the black people have filtered to the suburbs.
I said a few years ago, after spending about ten years hiding, I was shocked at spending all day and night in A&E. Hundreds after hundreds of people and no English/Brits. Get on a bus, no English. Entire high streets full of shops, no English/Brits.
Not saying it's a bad thing. Just bizarre.
I don't think people should be scared of discussing why groups of the "same" people live together. Trevor Phillips - of all people - said multiculturalism hasn't worked.
It's why I can't stand JK, Billy, Lily and Dom calling everyone evil racists whilst sitting in their 100% white areas. Why do they CHOOSE to live in those areas? Why? :rolleyes: Why do muslims live together? Africans? Poles? Romanians? Chinese?
Thank you for speaking so openly there, Fenster.
That was an observation I made earlier. All those demonizing basically white men (or Asians now) live in mostly white areas, do not marry other races, yet the so called 'terrible' racists seem to have married people of other races, are friends with people of other backgrounds, live among people of other races, and largely have no day to day problems with other races. It is just that they are not ignorant of the fact that people are not all the same and there are cultural problems that do exist out there and we should not hide from those.
I love the John Cleese comeback Tweets mentioned by Sargon here. Cleese is woke and taking no prisoners. ;D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAeJJYvSok0
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I think the both of you live in London or have lived in London. What are your honest takes on the city today? How do you feel about life there? About the changes? The pros? The cons? All of that.
It's unrecognisable. When I was a kid I remember when certain areas became predominantly "black," it looked really strange, now those areas are predominantly East European or Asian/Muslim, and the black people have filtered to the suburbs.
I said a few years ago, after spending about ten years hiding, I was shocked at spending all day and night in A&E. Hundreds after hundreds of people and no English/Brits. Get on a bus, no English. Entire high streets full of shops, no English/Brits.
Not saying it's a bad thing. Just bizarre.
I don't think people should be scared of discussing why groups of the "same" people live together. Trevor Phillips - of all people - said multiculturalism hasn't worked.
It's why I can't stand JK, Billy, Lily and Dom calling everyone evil racists whilst sitting in their 100% white areas. Why do they CHOOSE to live in those areas? Why? :rolleyes: Why do muslims live together? Africans? Poles? Romanians? Chinese?
So Cleese was pretty much correct in his views and opinions?
Statistically he is correct, Khan has largely agreed too, and then we have on the ground proof with the words of Fenster and perhaps Smashup to come.
Case seems to have been solved.
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Fenster @
smashup
I think the both of you live in London or have lived in London. What are your honest takes on the city today? How do you feel about life there? About the changes? The pros? The cons? All of that.
It's unrecognisable. When I was a kid I remember when certain areas became predominantly "black," it looked really strange, now those areas are predominantly East European or Asian/Muslim, and the black people have filtered to the suburbs.
I said a few years ago, after spending about ten years hiding, I was shocked at spending all day and night in A&E. Hundreds after hundreds of people and no English/Brits. Get on a bus, no English. Entire high streets full of shops, no English/Brits.
Not saying it's a bad thing. Just bizarre.
I don't think people should be scared of discussing why groups of the "same" people live together. Trevor Phillips - of all people - said multiculturalism hasn't worked.
It's why I can't stand JK, Billy, Lily and Dom calling everyone evil racists whilst sitting in their 100% white areas. Why do they CHOOSE to live in those areas? Why? :rolleyes: Why do muslims live together? Africans? Poles? Romanians? Chinese?
So Cleese was pretty much correct in his views and opinions?
Statistically he is correct, Khan has largely agreed too, and then we have on the ground proof with the words of Fenster and perhaps Smashup to come.
Case seems to have been solved.
Where are all these cases of people being called 'evil racists'?
The opposite is closer to the truth. Basically Gandalf is acting like some ministry of public enlightenment totalitarian cunt insisting that there is the far right sanctioned truth and any other opinion is banned.
Has Cleese ever even lived in London?
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@
Fenster @
smashup
I think the both of you live in London or have lived in London. What are your honest takes on the city today? How do you feel about life there? About the changes? The pros? The cons? All of that.
It's unrecognisable. When I was a kid I remember when certain areas became predominantly "black," it looked really strange, now those areas are predominantly East European or Asian/Muslim, and the black people have filtered to the suburbs.
I said a few years ago, after spending about ten years hiding, I was shocked at spending all day and night in A&E. Hundreds after hundreds of people and no English/Brits. Get on a bus, no English. Entire high streets full of shops, no English/Brits.
Not saying it's a bad thing. Just bizarre.
I don't think people should be scared of discussing why groups of the "same" people live together. Trevor Phillips - of all people - said multiculturalism hasn't worked.
It's why I can't stand JK, Billy, Lily and Dom calling everyone evil racists whilst sitting in their 100% white areas. Why do they CHOOSE to live in those areas? Why? :rolleyes: Why do muslims live together? Africans? Poles? Romanians? Chinese?
So Cleese was pretty much correct in his views and opinions?
Statistically he is correct, Khan has largely agreed too, and then we have on the ground proof with the words of Fenster and perhaps Smashup to come.
Case seems to have been solved.
Where are all these cases of people being called 'evil racists'?
The opposite is closer to the truth. Basically Gandalf is acting like some ministry of public enlightenment totalitarian cunt insisting that there is the far right sanctioned truth and any other opinion is banned.
Has Cleese ever even lived in London?
You call people sick, racist fucks all the time. Don't you remember? Doesn't matter if they are using dark humor or facts, but racism is your middle name.
BTW, how is berating somebody for baldness which they cannot control any different to berating somebody for their skin color?
Is it a freedom of speech thing?
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I think the both of you live in London or have lived in London. What are your honest takes on the city today? How do you feel about life there? About the changes? The pros? The cons? All of that.
It's unrecognisable. When I was a kid I remember when certain areas became predominantly "black," it looked really strange, now those areas are predominantly East European or Asian/Muslim, and the black people have filtered to the suburbs.
I said a few years ago, after spending about ten years hiding, I was shocked at spending all day and night in A&E. Hundreds after hundreds of people and no English/Brits. Get on a bus, no English. Entire high streets full of shops, no English/Brits.
Not saying it's a bad thing. Just bizarre.
I don't think people should be scared of discussing why groups of the "same" people live together. Trevor Phillips - of all people - said multiculturalism hasn't worked.
It's why I can't stand JK, Billy, Lily and Dom calling everyone evil racists whilst sitting in their 100% white areas. Why do they CHOOSE to live in those areas? Why? :rolleyes: Why do muslims live together? Africans? Poles? Romanians? Chinese?
So Cleese was pretty much correct in his views and opinions?
Statistically he is correct, Khan has largely agreed too, and then we have on the ground proof with the words of Fenster and perhaps Smashup to come.
Case seems to have been solved.
Where are all these cases of people being called 'evil racists'?
The opposite is closer to the truth. Basically Gandalf is acting like some ministry of public enlightenment totalitarian cunt insisting that there is the far right sanctioned truth and any other opinion is banned.
Has Cleese ever even lived in London?
You call people sick, racist fucks all the time. Don't you remember? Doesn't matter if they are using dark humor or facts, but racism is your middle name.
BTW, how is berating somebody for baldness which they cannot control any different to berating somebody for their skin color?
Is it a freedom of speech thing?
Why are you obsessed with everyone being victims? It's pathetic. If you really don't think you are a racist then all is dandy.
Calling someone a sick fuck is another thing entirely. If you are going to post sick poems and stories it's nobodies elses fault if you are called out on it.
And now you are policing the use of the word 'bald'?
Yet you think it's fine to rip the piss out of someone for having no legs? A lanky twat like you could probably spare a few inches to help them out too. Giraffdalf.
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@
Fenster @
smashup
I think the both of you live in London or have lived in London. What are your honest takes on the city today? How do you feel about life there? About the changes? The pros? The cons? All of that.
It's unrecognisable. When I was a kid I remember when certain areas became predominantly "black," it looked really strange, now those areas are predominantly East European or Asian/Muslim, and the black people have filtered to the suburbs.
I said a few years ago, after spending about ten years hiding, I was shocked at spending all day and night in A&E. Hundreds after hundreds of people and no English/Brits. Get on a bus, no English. Entire high streets full of shops, no English/Brits.
Not saying it's a bad thing. Just bizarre.
I don't think people should be scared of discussing why groups of the "same" people live together. Trevor Phillips - of all people - said multiculturalism hasn't worked.
It's why I can't stand JK, Billy, Lily and Dom calling everyone evil racists whilst sitting in their 100% white areas. Why do they CHOOSE to live in those areas? Why? :rolleyes: Why do muslims live together? Africans? Poles? Romanians? Chinese?
So Cleese was pretty much correct in his views and opinions?
Statistically he is correct, Khan has largely agreed too, and then we have on the ground proof with the words of Fenster and perhaps Smashup to come.
Case seems to have been solved.
Where are all these cases of people being called 'evil racists'?
The opposite is closer to the truth. Basically Gandalf is acting like some ministry of public enlightenment totalitarian cunt insisting that there is the far right sanctioned truth and any other opinion is banned.
Has Cleese ever even lived in London?
You call people sick, racist fucks all the time. Don't you remember? Doesn't matter if they are using dark humor or facts, but racism is your middle name.
BTW, how is berating somebody for baldness which they cannot control any different to berating somebody for their skin color?
Is it a freedom of speech thing?
Why are you obsessed with everyone being victims? It's pathetic. If you really don't think you are a racist then all is dandy.
Calling someone a sick fuck is another thing entirely. If you are going to post sick poems and stories it's nobodies elses fault if you are called out on it.
And now you are policing the use of the word 'bald'?
Yet you think it's fine to rip the piss out of someone for having no legs? A lanky twat like you could probably spare a few inches to help them out too. Giraffdalf.
It is a genuine question. One cannot help being gay or bald or black, yet you would happily berate the bald person. I am just curious how that works out from a logical point of view. You look for the weakest point and strike like a viper, but because I suspect that is not part of the ist or ism buzzword list, then that is fine and what you consider freedom of speech and I would agree to an extent. That is my interpretation of it. You basically think some people deserve to be abused and this was way back way before it even ended up the way it did over stream of conscious poems and others have put up with it too.
You can bring up stories and poems, but none of it can be backed up as action and yet you still made a truce with the man. It is very peculiar. You made a truce with a man that you think is mentally ill, who you think wants to bomb refugees, is a pervert, and who you mocked for being bald. I am just saying that it is rather inconsistent.
However, that is totally besides the point and you did not answer the question as to why years and years ago you would berate a person for a natural situation that they have no control over. A woman can choose to get pregnant to a bad man. A person can choose to rape another person. A man can choose to run in front of a train as an illegal immigrant. All those things are valid points one can contend with as they are choices, but to berate a man for being bald. How is that different?
You say Lyle does not understand freedom of speech, but you go on and on like a broken record about racism too. 'This site is non-racist'. Sexist, homophobic, racist blah, blah, blah, year in year out until everyone has had it up to the eyeballs. Yet you call people cunts, mock their appearance and all kinds of twisted things. You have double standards.
And once again, you are a lone voice in a thread.
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Back on topic, here is John Cleese Twitter. Some absolutely classic responses. The man is sharp.
https://twitter.com/johncleese
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Gandalf
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I think the both of you live in London or have lived in London. What are your honest takes on the city today? How do you feel about life there? About the changes? The pros? The cons? All of that.
It's unrecognisable. When I was a kid I remember when certain areas became predominantly "black," it looked really strange, now those areas are predominantly East European or Asian/Muslim, and the black people have filtered to the suburbs.
I said a few years ago, after spending about ten years hiding, I was shocked at spending all day and night in A&E. Hundreds after hundreds of people and no English/Brits. Get on a bus, no English. Entire high streets full of shops, no English/Brits.
Not saying it's a bad thing. Just bizarre.
I don't think people should be scared of discussing why groups of the "same" people live together. Trevor Phillips - of all people - said multiculturalism hasn't worked.
It's why I can't stand JK, Billy, Lily and Dom calling everyone evil racists whilst sitting in their 100% white areas. Why do they CHOOSE to live in those areas? Why? :rolleyes: Why do muslims live together? Africans? Poles? Romanians? Chinese?
So Cleese was pretty much correct in his views and opinions?
Statistically he is correct, Khan has largely agreed too, and then we have on the ground proof with the words of Fenster and perhaps Smashup to come.
Case seems to have been solved.
Where are all these cases of people being called 'evil racists'?
The opposite is closer to the truth. Basically Gandalf is acting like some ministry of public enlightenment totalitarian cunt insisting that there is the far right sanctioned truth and any other opinion is banned.
Has Cleese ever even lived in London?
You call people sick, racist fucks all the time. Don't you remember? Doesn't matter if they are using dark humor or facts, but racism is your middle name.
BTW, how is berating somebody for baldness which they cannot control any different to berating somebody for their skin color?
Is it a freedom of speech thing?
Why are you obsessed with everyone being victims? It's pathetic. If you really don't think you are a racist then all is dandy.
Calling someone a sick fuck is another thing entirely. If you are going to post sick poems and stories it's nobodies elses fault if you are called out on it.
And now you are policing the use of the word 'bald'?
Yet you think it's fine to rip the piss out of someone for having no legs? A lanky twat like you could probably spare a few inches to help them out too. Giraffdalf.
It is a genuine question. One cannot help being gay or bald or black, yet you would happily berate the bald person. I am just curious how that works out from a logical point of view. You look for the weakest point and strike like a viper, but because I suspect that is not part of the ist or ism buzzword list, then that is fine and what you consider freedom of speech and I would agree to an extent. That is my interpretation of it. You basically think some people deserve to be abused and this was way back way before it even ended up the way it did over stream of conscious poems and others have put up with it too.
You can bring up stories and poems, but none of it can be backed up as action and yet you still made a truce with the man. It is very peculiar. You made a truce with a man that you think is mentally ill, who you think wants to bomb refugees, is a pervert, and who you mocked for being bald. I am just saying that it is rather inconsistent.
However, that is totally besides the point and you did not answer the question as to why years and years ago you would berate a person for a natural situation that they have no control over. A woman can choose to get pregnant to a bad man. A person can choose to rape another person. A man can choose to run in front of a train as an illegal immigrant. All those things are valid points one can contend with as they are choices, but to berate a man for being bald. How is that different?
You say Lyle does not understand freedom of speech, but you go on and on like a broken record about racism too. 'This site is non-racist'. Sexist, homophobic, racist blah, blah, blah, year in year out until everyone has had it up to the eyeballs. Yet you call people cunts, mock their appearance and all kinds of twisted things. You have double standards.
And once again, you are a lone voice in a thread.
If you have an issue with me 'once again being a lone voice in a thread', like Lyle, you have no idea what freedom of speech even means.
Remember I am not the one moaning about John Cheese expressing his opinion. It is your YouTube heroes going full on massive melt down and losing their shit, simply because not everyone agrees with him.
If you are going to post videos of yourself gurning all over a forum and then verbally attack people, don't be surprised if somebody mentions the fact you are bald or short etc. Stop being offended on behalf of someone else. It is the exact thing you constantly accuse others of.