Fighters between the 30's and 80's- better physical shape!
That has to be a fact. I can't tell you how disappointed I am, particularly with the Super Middleweights and up, to see how non chiselled and less toned these guys are.
Geez... has anyone seen that? Guys from that era if fighting and training in these days and times would cream anyone from this era just on the sheer physical conditioning.
Have you ever seen a guy like Sonny Liston train?? Training and calisthenics are insane. He had great agility, and back then he was seen as one of the least agile and mobile heavyweights of that time. No wonder why he was a champion, when you see him train BACK THEN!!
Guys like Chavez Jr., Andy Ruiz, Tyson Fury, Clifford Etienne, Chisora, Riddick Bowe, DeGale, Maidana, etc... are just depressing.
Best in shape guys these days that appear non-steroidal are Mayweather Jr., Bryant Jennings and GGG.
But, Pac, Mosely, Wilder, etc.... look roided up man.
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... and when they aren't just fat and overweight, they look RUBBERY weight drained- like Diego Corrales was, JMM before he began to use a little roids, Nonito Donaire, Froch, Groves and Erik Morales. They just looked too rubbery thin from weight draining.
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Ron Swanson
Weight draining is far more popular now with day before weigh in.
But pointing to a few fat guys and judging all is silly. Every time has had fat guys, you just don't know about them.
The fat guys never won. Or hardly won. Certainly not titles.
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There was The Great Depression in the 1930's and in the 1980's there was an epidemic of Crack Cocaine use......hope that helps answer your question
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If Max Power was around, and thankfully he is not, he would have choked reading this thread, so I wish he was around. :)
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Master
If Max Power was around, and thankfully he is not, he would have choked reading this thread, so I wish he was around. :)
Why?? lolol...
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ykdadamaja
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Master
If Max Power was around, and thankfully he is not, he would have choked reading this thread, so I wish he was around. :)
Why?? lolol...
So he can choke and suffocate.
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We all know an inflated fat mind can be just as costly as a starter set of Moobs in the ring. Cliff Etienne ;D
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Spicoli
We all know an inflated fat mind can be just as costly as a starter set of Moobs in the ring. Cliff Etienne ;D
lolol....
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Ron Swanson
Weight draining is far more popular now with day before weigh in.
But pointing to a few fat guys and judging all is silly. Every time has had fat guys, you just don't know about them.
Manny Steward seemed to have been the go-to trainer for Hearns & especially Michael Moorer, @ LHW then fight night he come in as a CW. which is why he blew pass CW to HW.
Lately: I'd say Roach's Pac. Since Morales I @ 130, he walked in fight night at 138.
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The thread is a complete inversion of the truth.
For a start, you cannot equate "body fat percentage" to "being in shape" at all. They are unnecessary conditions for the other. You can be very lean yet not in great shape and you can be a little bit chubby (and at HW even QUITE chubby), and yet be supremely conditioned. And in fact at HW this is proven by the fact that lean boxers gas more often than chubby ones. Whatever your training if you eat enough food you will gain weight. Even little Manny consumes around 7000 cal a day! Past boxers would have consumed FAR less than that (and also trained far less).
Another factor to consider is that modern boxers have more time to re-nourish and re-hydrate between weigh-in and fight night and therefore it should be no surprise anyhow if they didn't come in so ripped. The weight is an advantage after all. It isn't a bodybuilding contest, it's boxing.
But the MAIN reason this thread is erroneous is that it is flat out a lie! Overall, there are boxers from 80's+ that are FAR more ripped and far more athletic, deliver far better performance than ANY boxer of the past!
The modern boxer trains longer, harder and more frequently and more specifically than any boxer from those past eras. Fact! They are in so much better shape it's ludicrous to compare! The athletes have gotten far better.
I suppose the argument will go "But past boxers used to fight 15-20 rounds", well hey LOOK at those 15-20 rounds. It looked nothing LIKE the 12 rounds of boxing looks today. 2 guys basically standing stationary in front of each other slugging it out. They weighed about 15lbs less on fight night compared with their comparable weight class, they were less explosive and moved less too.
If a modern boxer fought like a past boxer the same way those guys did, against the same opponents they did, they would go 15-20 without even breaking a sweat!
http://boxingjunkies.com/wp-content/...oxing-dvds.jpg
Take a look at this picture^^^
http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopo...tiz-boxing.jpg
And take a look at this one^^^ (excuse the Floyd pic, merely for illustrative purposes).
Tell me seriously, who is the better athlete?
You really think all boxers in post 15 round eras are less athletic? Yeah right! LOL
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Brother MaxPower.;D
Give them the inverted truth!
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I am sure @Max Power can smell these threads. He is a predator. :cool:
