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Oscar Lists his excuses for losing to PBF come sept 16th!!!!!!!!!
In an interview conducted by Dan Rafael of ESPN.com, Oscar De La Hoya gave him a few good reasons why retirement might be a good idea. Rafael got Oscar to list his injuries. Suprisingly, Oscar held nothing back and gave ESPN a run down of his ailments.
Oscar tells ESPN: "I felt more pains in the Mayorga training camp than any other training camp ever."
The details of his problems (As listed by ESPN):
• "My left rotator cuff is torn. I've lived with it with for the last 4-5 years. When I sleep at night, to this day, I wake up and it's uncomfortable. It hurts. It's in pain."
• "My hand. I am tired of getting shots on my [left] hand to numb it so I won't feel the pain. I'm tired of it."
• "My elbows. I have arthritis in both elbows. I get shots. It sucks. It really does."
• "My back flares up."
• "This knuckle [on the middle finger of my right hand] still hasn't gone down since the Mayorga fight. I'm thinking it's broken. I touch it and it hurts. It's been like this for two months, since the middle of training camp."
All Quotes: Dan Rafael, ESPN.com
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The corporate Golden Boy is starting to piss me off and I bet Floyd is starting to get annoyed too after buying out his won contract.If he's making all these excuses,he does not want to fight so say no!!!Prick! I thought he spent time on an island,there was supposed to be a conference etc etc Just hurry up and decide. After listing all those excuses and to take the fight would be poor and would take the gloss of a Floyd win and no doubt if Oscar has those problems Floyd WOULD win so I think Oscar should just call it a day.
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Re: Oscar Lists his excuses for losing to PBF come sept 16th!!!!!!!!!
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Originally Posted by The Game
The corporate Golden Boy is starting to piss me off and I bet Floyd is starting to get annoyed too after buying out his won contract.If he's making all these excuses,he does not want to fight so say no!!!Prick! I thought he spent time on an island,there was supposed to be a conference etc etc Just hurry up and decide. After listing all those excuses and to take the fight would be poor and would take the gloss of a Floyd win and no doubt if Oscar has those problems Floyd WOULD win so I think Oscar should just call it a day.
easy...easy...settle down....this is the build up to make ODLH the ultimate warrior/fighter....imagine his legacy after he beats PBF and goes out on that high note.....you can't buy this kind of drama....he is laying the ground work to make this fight seem actually closer than it will be....
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Welcome to the world of intense exercise and complex Anatomy... unless you have a clue what you are talking about...
http://www.ebaumsworld.com/forumfun/stfu.jpg
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Originally Posted by AdamGB
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Re: Oscar Lists his excuses for losing to PBF come sept 16th!!!!!!!!!
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Originally Posted by bigragu
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Originally Posted by The Game
The corporate Golden Boy is starting to piss me off and I bet Floyd is starting to get annoyed too after buying out his won contract.If he's making all these excuses,he does not want to fight so say no!!!Prick! I thought he spent time on an island,there was supposed to be a conference etc etc Just hurry up and decide. After listing all those excuses and to take the fight would be poor and would take the gloss of a Floyd win and no doubt if Oscar has those problems Floyd WOULD win so I think Oscar should just call it a day.
easy...easy...settle down....this is the build up to make ODLH the ultimate warrior/fighter....imagine his legacy after he beats PBF and goes out on that high note.....you can't buy this kind of drama....he is laying the ground work to make this fight seem actually closer than it will be....
Yo dude,don't tell me to settle down,if I want drama,I'll go watch WWE,this is boxing,I want to see the biggest and best fights and if Oscar is not going to give us that,go away,promote,get the fwook out of Tony Margarito's way!!!
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Yo dude,don't tell me to settle down,if I want drama,I'll go watch WWE,this is boxing,I want to see the biggest and best fights and if Oscar is not going to give us that,go away,promote,get the fwook out of Tony Margarito's way!!!
[/quote]The fights gonna happen....you'll see...
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I just want Oscar to hurry up and make it,I mean does anyone actually find all this procastinating,waiting,cancelling conferences etc exciting???
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Re: Oscar Lists his excuses for losing to PBF come sept 16th!!!!!!!!!
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Originally Posted by bigragu
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Originally Posted by AdamGB
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Not aimed at you (or any one in particular ;))
just there are going to be a lot of fight fans who all of a sudden become experts on training, Anatomy and Injurys, ODH should of just been quiet... its this type of thing that got the motor mouth fight fans going over and over about Joe Calzaghe before he fixed their mouths perminently shut.
Its like this guys.. ODH has been training vigerously and frequently all of his life, he's been doing this for longer than some of us have been alive... his body is catching up with him...
Fight fans can nag and demand as much as they want, no matter how far they cry about it or how far the bottle gets thrown out of their pram ODH will not go into a situation where he could suffer permiment damge or god forbid death unless he feels that his body is up to the challenge... not for anybody... not for ignorant fight fans who rant and punch away furiously at keyboards... no body...
If having to wait a few weeks for ODH to make a big decision like this is to much for you then you need to stop being as obsessive and put your energys into something that you acheive.
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I'll be 33 on June 22 and a little over 18 months ago I completely tore my right bicep...COMPLETLY.. no partial tear or any thing....the shat rolled up like a little ball...my shoulders are shot and every morning when I wake up I can't really walk for like 20 min until I've warmed up....other than that I'm fine....but once I warm up I'm ok....it's when I am not doing anything that's when the creaks and cracks come back....I want to fight a few more amateur fights then try at least 1 pro fight but it sucks a** to push past the pain so to speak....damn age!!!!!! damn you age!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Oscar has his excuses, he has alway's had his excuses of the years. Pretty Boy has ailments also, he has alway's had a problem with injuring his hands, and what is the most important body part in boxing (the hands). I am sure he has other injuries as well, all boxers have injuries because it is a brutal sport. Nobody wants to hear his excuses at 33, Mayweather is no spring chicken at 29 he is not that much younger than Oscar, look at Bernard fighting well at 41. Oscar is a genius when it comes to working the media as well as his fans, you guy's seem to believe all the stupid stuff he say's. He will continue to pull these antics.
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Re: Oscar Lists his excuses for losing to PBF come sept 16th!!!!!!!!!
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Originally Posted by TheBESTP4P
In an interview conducted by Dan Rafael of ESPN.com, Oscar De La Hoya gave him a few good reasons why retirement might be a good idea. Rafael got Oscar to list his injuries. Suprisingly, Oscar held nothing back and gave ESPN a run down of his ailments.
Oscar tells ESPN: "I felt more pains in the Mayorga training camp than any other training camp ever."
The details of his problems (As listed by ESPN):
• "My left rotator cuff is torn. I've lived with it with for the last 4-5 years. When I sleep at night, to this day, I wake up and it's uncomfortable. It hurts. It's in pain."
• "My hand. I am tired of getting shots on my [left] hand to numb it so I won't feel the pain. I'm tired of it."
• "My elbows. I have arthritis in both elbows. I get shots. It sucks. It really does."
• "My back flares up."
• "This knuckle [on the middle finger of my right hand] still hasn't gone down since the Mayorga fight. I'm thinking it's broken. I touch it and it hurts. It's been like this for two months, since the middle of training camp."
All Quotes: Dan Rafael, ESPN.com
:coolclick: for the read. Nice.
I can totally agree with all of the above.
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Originally Posted by The Game
The corporate Golden Boy is starting to piss me off and I bet Floyd is starting to get annoyed too after buying out his won contract.If he's making all these excuses,he does not want to fight so say no!!!Prick! I thought he spent time on an island,there was supposed to be a conference etc etc Just hurry up and decide. After listing all those excuses and to take the fight would be poor and would take the gloss of a Floyd win and no doubt if Oscar has those problems Floyd WOULD win so I think Oscar should just call it a day.
It has nothing to do with him being corporate...Oscar's been boxing for more than a decade...I buy what he's selling.
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Originally Posted by bigragu
I'll be 33 on June 22 and a little over 18 months ago I completely tore my right bicep...COMPLETLY.. no partial tear or any thing....the shat rolled up like a little ball...my shoulders are shot and every morning when I wake up I can't really walk for like 20 min until I've warmed up....other than that I'm fine....but once I warm up I'm ok....it's when I am not doing anything that's when the creaks and cracks come back....I want to fight a few more amateur fights then try at least 1 pro fight but it sucks a** to push past the pain so to speak....damn age!!!!!! damn you age!!!!!!!!!!!!
:throwup: That description made my arms hurt. Good luck recovering and hopefully youll be back in the ring
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Originally Posted by gbrandon
Oscar has his excuses, he has alway's had his excuses of the years. Pretty Boy has ailments also, he has alway's had a problem with injuring his hands, and what is the most important body part in boxing (the hands).
The body is only as good as the some of its parts, in boxing it is all or nothing... people age differently... especially depending on there weight and genetics... I don't care if boxer A and boxer B are only 2 years younger or what... everybody is physically different.
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Originally Posted by AdamGB
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Originally Posted by gbrandon
Oscar has his excuses, he has alway's had his excuses of the years. Pretty Boy has ailments also, he has alway's had a problem with injuring his hands, and what is the most important body part in boxing (the hands).
The body is only as good as the some of its parts, in boxing it is all or nothing... people age differently... especially depending on there weight and genetics... I don't care if boxer A and boxer B are only 2 years younger or what... everybody is physically different.
True statement here is a CC. This is not Chemistry class nor is it Math. The point I am trying to make is that all boxers have ailments, not just De La Hoya but you didn't seem to quote that part. That's OK because only biased fans of the sport listen to excuses, there have been boxers to break their hand's, jaws, eye sockets, etc in the ring and keep fighting with great effort. We don't want to hear crying from a boxer on his injuries they all have them.
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I wouldn't call them excuses yet because DLH has yet to loose, even though at the moment p4p he is probably not better than Floyd, I just can't see him loosing. He's just venting about his injurys ;)
Personally I think he should of just shut his mouth about it, because once the press get hold of it... it can be twisted and missinterpritated... he should of learned from what people said about Joe Calzaghe's hand pre-Lacy and what Joe did.
I agree, there are plenty of fighters with the heart to fight on with these injurys, but sometimes discipline has to kick in. Boxer's a warriors, its often harder for a boxer to admit he is not ready for something or currently cannot do something than it is for them to go and fight with injurys which cause them to get beat.
If Oscar retires and doesn't fight Floyd it will only be because his body has began to shut down to a point where he feels he cannot fight anymore.
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Originally Posted by AdamGB
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I wouldn't call them excuses yet because DLH has yet to loose, even though at the moment p4p he is probably not better than Floyd, I just can't see him loosing. He's just venting about his injurys ;)
Personally I think he should of just shut his mouth about it, because once the press get hold of it... it can be twisted and missinterpritated... he should of learned from what people said about Joe Calzaghe's hand pre-Lacy and what Joe did.
I agree, there are plenty of fighters with the heart to fight on with these injurys, but sometimes discipline has to kick in. Boxer's a warriors, its often harder for a boxer to admit he is not ready for something or currently cannot do something than it is for them to go and fight with injurys which cause them to get beat.
If Oscar retires and doesn't fight Floyd it will only be because his body has began to shut down to a point where he feels he cannot fight anymore.
Agreed
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Originally Posted by AdamGB
If Oscar retires and doesn't fight Floyd it will only be because his body has began to shut down to a point where he feels he cannot fight anymore.
As a fan of both...I gotta disagree with that statement...if Oscar won't fight Floyd...it's because he's afraid of the 50/50 shot of him losing & not going out with a belt like he said he wanted to.
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not sure if I clicked you already today either or if I just clicked you now (24 hour rule thing.. :P) so you're getting the benifit of the doubt and another in 24 hours... ;)
did you post in that survery I posted? that may have been it.
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If Oscar retires and doesn't fight Floyd it will only be because his body has began to shut down to a point where he feels he cannot fight anymore.
As a fan of both...I gotta disagree with that statement...if Oscar won't fight Floyd...it's because he's afraid of the 50/50 shot of him losing & not going out with a belt like he said he wanted to.
Well, I dunno about that but I think Oscar has a pretty good chance, we've that if you can box and fight a little you can trouble Floyd at times Judah didn't capitalise on it but I think he exposed a few chinks in teh armour that Oscar will rip open if he finds them in the ring.
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INO, Oscar has what it takes to not only beat PBF but KO/TKO him as long as he is in good health
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Originally Posted by bigragu
I'll be 33 on June 22 and a little over 18 months ago I completely tore my right bicep...COMPLETLY.. no partial tear or any thing....the shat rolled up like a little ball...my shoulders are shot and every morning when I wake up I can't really walk for like 20 min until I've warmed up....other than that I'm fine....but once I warm up I'm ok....it's when I am not doing anything that's when the creaks and cracks come back....I want to fight a few more amateur fights then try at least 1 pro fight but it sucks a** to push past the pain so to speak....damn age!!!!!! damn you age!!!!!!!!!!!!
:throwup: That description made my arms hurt. Good luck recovering and hopefully youll be back in the ring
yeah...I've finally been able to really swat the heavy bag over the past 3 months with no pain at all...and I'm starting to turn it up in sparring...I think about the bicep about 2/3 of the time now instead of all the time....I curled a 50lb weight 8 times the other day with that arm so it's close to full strength...about 85% now....but it's the worry of doing it again that slows me some days....
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Boxing takes its toll. As we age our bodies don’t recover as well ,and arthritis sets in to the hand and joints . Lots of fighter in their late 30's 40's ’ and 50’s have horrible problems with their hands and shoulders and backs. Example Pernell Whitaker tried to make a comeback several years ago ,He threw his shoulder out during the fight and it was stopped . that would have never happened back in the early 90’s Its called aging . Those are not excuses. Those are facts. Now if Oscar going to continue to fight he just going to have to suck it up. Fight though it. I can’t remember ever fighting and feeling 100% . Something always hurts. Sore hand, back, something always pops up. Its just with age it become more exaggerated (the pain that is) . I don’t really agree with the topic of this article. Oscar hadn’t lost anything yet. Lets see how things play out first. :)
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I know how ODLH feels - when you have spent years using a part of your body intensively and repetitively, it begins to degenerate.
Many of these injuries are chronic and will not heal up, as evidenced by the thousands of retired ex-sportsmen whose bodies are ravaged by injury.
For example, I have recently developed a hole in my arse. This is the result of years of talking repetitively and intensely out of it. I think the constant noise and loudness chronically weakened the sidewall or something. As an international-class arsehole, I sympathise with Oscar on this.
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Originally Posted by bigragu
Yo dude,don't tell me to settle down,if I want drama,I'll go watch WWE,this is boxing,I want to see the biggest and best fights and if Oscar is not going to give us that,go away,promote,get the fwook out of Tony Margarito's way!!!
The fights gonna happen....you'll see...
[/quote]I don't think that De La Hoya has made up his mind about quitting yet and i certainly don't think he's looking for excuses for backing out of fight with Mayweather, besides that, De La Hoya has claimed that a fight with Mayweather may never happen due to Mayweather's father being his trainer, and obviously he would be reluctant to sever ties with Mayweather senior in order to fight Mayweather Jnr. Whether he continues to fight or quit, De La Hoya deserves immense praise for his achievements and IMO he was never looking for an excuse to avoid fighting anyone. De La Hoya is a great fighter and i would like him to continue, as most people would, but IMO it looks as though he was asked a question regarding his injuries and gave honest answers, whether that can be construed as adding drama or not who cares! The fact of the matter is drama is a part of the make-up of boxing, drama puts bums on seats.
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Originally Posted by X
I know how ODLH feels - when you have spent years using a part of your body intensively and repetitively, it begins to degenerate.
Many of these injuries are chronic and will not heal up, as evidenced by the thousands of retired ex-sportsmen whose bodies are ravaged by injury.
For example, I have recently developed a hole in my a***. This is the result of years of talking repetitively and intensely out of it. I think the constant noise and loudness chronically weakened the sidewall or something. As an international-class arsehole, I sympathise with Oscar on this.
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that is classic...cc lol lmao!!!!
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I agree its part marketing and part covering his a**...The human body wasnt created to sustain such punishment over a long period of time, but it all catches up with them just like any athlete has there ailments, We look at him like he is the golden boy most of the boxing public view him as a good looking charismatic well spoken man...that may be all true on the outside but on the inside he has been in the ring with some of the best and has been in some wars and taken his fair share of hits....So his body will see some were in tear.
Is it Fair to say a boxers years in the ring can be measured in DOG years as each year go's by.. and just like any dog, some take to age differently some get old faster and some of them turn the corner for the bad seemingly overnite, depending on the breed..
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Originally Posted by TheBESTP4P
In an interview conducted by Dan Rafael of ESPN.com, Oscar De La Hoya gave him a few good reasons why retirement might be a good idea. Rafael got Oscar to list the qualities of his wife and the sacrifices he doesn't want to make anymore. Suprisingly, Oscar held nothing back and gave ESPN a run down of his ailments.
Oscar tells ESPN: "I felt more pains in the Mayorga training camp than any other training camp ever."
The details of his problems (As listed by ESPN):
• "I've lived with it with for the last 4-5 years. When I sleep at night, to this day, I wake up and it's uncomfortable. It hurts. It's in pain."
"My hand. I am tired of getting shots on my [left] hand to numb it so I won't feel the pain. I'm tired of it."
It sucks. It really does.
"My back flares up."
"This still hasn't gone down since the Mayorga fight. I'm thinking it's broken. I touch it and it hurts. It's been like this for two months, since the middle of training camp."
;D Seems Oscar misses the home life ;)
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Originally Posted by bigragu
I'll be 33 on June 22 and a little over 18 months ago I completely tore my right bicep...COMPLETLY.. no partial tear or any thing....the shat rolled up like a little ball...my shoulders are shot and every morning when I wake up I can't really walk for like 20 min until I've warmed up....other than that I'm fine....but once I warm up I'm ok....it's when I am not doing anything that's when the creaks and cracks come back....I want to fight a few more amateur fights then try at least 1 pro fight but it sucks a** to push past the pain so to speak....damn age!!!!!! damn you age!!!!!!!!!!!!
I didn't think you could get a pro licence once you have turned 30?????
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Originally Posted by gbrandon
Oscar has his excuses, he has alway's had his excuses of the years. Pretty Boy has ailments also, he has alway's had a problem with injuring his hands, and what is the most important body part in boxing (the hands). I am sure he has other injuries as well, all boxers have injuries because it is a brutal sport. Nobody wants to hear his excuses at 33, Mayweather is no spring chicken at 29 he is not that much younger than Oscar, look at Bernard fighting well at 41. Oscar is a genius when it comes to working the media as well as his fans, you guy's seem to believe all the stupid stuff he say's. He will continue to pull these antics.
Every pro has had the problems Oscar has had except maybe not as bad of hands but IMO Mayweather does. ALso he had his injury from his fight /w castillo injured rotator cuff which is really important in boxing, but like Isaid most of Oscar's injuries every boxer has.
