How can you not like this guy?
Plot his path into the 147 division and his next x3 opponents after his first defence in Scotland.
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How can you not like this guy?
Plot his path into the 147 division and his next x3 opponents after his first defence in Scotland.
Would really like to see Tank in with him.
I was on the fence until this year- his win over Ramirez was legit.
All the other fights-except Prograis, he did what he was supposed to. Quite a few of his fights- guys were stopped while standing & coherent. Much like many of Calzaghe's early fights with dudes like Byron Mitchell - or fights stopped a bit too soon for me.
Nevertheless he has speed, nice footwork and flashy combos. Gives it upstairs & mixes it downstairs to the body.
Back to Ramirez -IMO he proved he is a thinking fighter as he clinched almost everytime Ramirez landing nice on him. Those middle rounds I had Ramirez winning until the 6th? That KD followed up with another one showed he could adapt & took control rounds 6-10.
The championship rounds I like how Ramirez stood his ground in the center of the ring -even finished the fight by pushing Josh back.
I think he does a fine job at this division, but he can't just clinch his way out of a scenario at 147. All those dudes can bang & think! I say he gets his ass whooped between 2023-2025 depending on how many big fights he can secure.
@147 would like to see him against Ennis, Ortiz Jr. or Ugas. Really cracking fights!
At this stage I think Pac, Spence, Crawford all of them can make him look ordinary. Because- he is only 18 fights old or 6 years pro. He can learn a lot -depending on who he gets in the next 2 years. Pick wrong and he will be an after thought by 2025.
Best Scottish fighter ever, even better than Ken Buchanan, would love him to beat the loud mouth Teo Lopez or Tank to become a huge star then move up to welterweight.
Wow even better than Buchannon in such a short time as a pro. Surely Scottish fighters have earned the right to say- not so fast. Not even McGowan? He can only hope he lasts as long as Burns. Great start off to his career thus far.
Josh Taylor: Scot 'belongs' in Terence Crawford super-fight, says Carl Froch
Josh Taylor "belongs" in a super-fight with Terence Crawford after dominating the light-welterweight division, says former world champion Carl Froch.
The Scot is eyeing a step up to face welterweight Crawford after a mandatory defence against Jack Catterall in Glasgow on 18 December.
Taylor's unanimous points win over Jose Ramirez in May made him the first British four-belt undisputed champion.
"Crawford is a special talent, a big puncher," said Froch.
"Josh certainly deserves to be in there with someone like Crawford, but that's a name that is right at the top of my pound-for-pound rankings.
"I don't want to say he beats him, but he belongs in there with him."
Both fighters boast a perfect record, with 33-year-old American Crawford a three-weight world champion and the current holder of the WBO welterweight title. Twenty eight of his 37 wins came via knockout.
"If I had to pick who would win that fight, I'd have to be honest and say Crawford," added Froch.
"But there's no reason Josh Taylor can't beat him. In boxing if you're not firing on all cylinders and don't put in 100% performance, anything can happen."
Having trained with Taylor towards the end of his own professional career, former super-middleweight Froch is not surprised by the 30-year-old's rise to dominance.
"I knew then he was a special talent," he said. "To go on and become undisputed king at his weight, what a fantastic career he's had so far and he still has lots to do. I think he'll dominate for quite a while.
"He still has work to do as there's some good fighters coming through and others in the division above him where he might be headed, but for now he's undisputed king and we need to appreciate him while he's there because it doesn't happen often."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/boxing/58505204
he needs to rematch regis
Why go back? He has some potentially big fights ahead of him and should be looking forward for new challenges.Quote:
Originally Posted by TIC
Let Regis earn the rematch.
Plenty of work to do at 140 and another case of all respect but slow the roll ;D. I'd like Prograis rematch but really just as a Regis fan. But also what has Rougarou done in 2 years? The triller circus did him no favors in keeping pace with Taylor but hey I'd watch the rematch. It can't be ignored the Tank Davis is basically barging into Taylors huge new home and sleeping on his couch and putting his feet on the coffee table too. Taylor has the momentum, great shifter up close with both hands and has some scalps but 147 still has a boiling bloodline of potential live sharks just waiting for the blockage to pass. He runs with all top tier 140-147 but Crawford specifically would be size above and just might square him up badly as it would go imo. Josh whatever way we look at it does have all the options and well earned! It's going to be a fans pleasure watching them play out in that talent.
regis is not a going backwards fightQuote:
Originally Posted by MasterWhy go back? He has some potentially big fights ahead of him and should be looking forward for new challenges.Quote:
Originally Posted by TIC
Let Regis earn the rematch.
No, it’s not a backwards fight. But it’s a “Been there, done that, move on “ fight. And with the amount of possible opponents he’s got, he doesn’t need rematches.Quote:
Originally Posted by TICregis is not a going backwards fightQuote:
Originally Posted by MasterWhy go back? He has some potentially big fights ahead of him and should be looking forward for new challenges.Quote:
Originally Posted by TIC
Let Regis earn the rematch.
Prograis is a very good fighter, he needs to make his own path and if they meet each other down the line, fine. But he doesn’t NEED to fight Prograis.
he needs to rematch regis. that would be the first fight i'd plot after jackQuote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraNo, it’s not a backwards fight. But it’s a “Been there, done that, move on “ fight. And with the amount of possible opponents he’s got, he doesn’t need rematches.Quote:
Originally Posted by TICregis is not a going backwards fightQuote:
Originally Posted by MasterWhy go back? He has some potentially big fights ahead of him and should be looking forward for new challenges.Quote:
Originally Posted by TIC
Let Regis earn the rematch.
Prograis is a very good fighter, he needs to make his own path and if they meet each other down the line, fine. But he doesn’t NEED to fight Prograis.
I'd be happy either way with this. It's not like it would be an immediate rematch. They would be separated by a couple of years and several fights.
But a rematch pretty soon isn't such a bad idea. Who knows... this could turn out to be one of those famous trilogies.
Prograis NEEDS Taylor. Taylor doesn’t NEED Prograis. If you were Josh Taylor, would you chase Prograis or Terence Crawford?Quote:
Originally Posted by TIChe needs to rematch regis. that would be the first fight i'd plot after jackQuote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraNo, it’s not a backwards fight. But it’s a “Been there, done that, move on “ fight. And with the amount of possible opponents he’s got, he doesn’t need rematches.Quote:
Originally Posted by TICregis is not a going backwards fightQuote:
Originally Posted by MasterWhy go back? He has some potentially big fights ahead of him and should be looking forward for new challenges.Quote:
Originally Posted by TIC
Let Regis earn the rematch.
Prograis is a very good fighter, he needs to make his own path and if they meet each other down the line, fine. But he doesn’t NEED to fight Prograis.
if i was josh i would rematch regis next in americaQuote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraPrograis NEEDS Taylor. Taylor doesn’t NEED Prograis. If you were Josh Taylor, would you chase Prograis or Terence Crawford?Quote:
Originally Posted by TIChe needs to rematch regis. that would be the first fight i'd plot after jackQuote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraNo, it’s not a backwards fight. But it’s a “Been there, done that, move on “ fight. And with the amount of possible opponents he’s got, he doesn’t need rematches.Quote:
Originally Posted by TICregis is not a going backwards fightQuote:
Originally Posted by MasterWhy go back? He has some potentially big fights ahead of him and should be looking forward for new challenges.Quote:
Originally Posted by TIC
Let Regis earn the rematch.
Prograis is a very good fighter, he needs to make his own path and if they meet each other down the line, fine. But he doesn’t NEED to fight Prograis.
Why?Quote:
Originally Posted by TICif i was josh i would rematch regis next in americaQuote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraPrograis NEEDS Taylor. Taylor doesn’t NEED Prograis. If you were Josh Taylor, would you chase Prograis or Terence Crawford?Quote:
Originally Posted by TIChe needs to rematch regis. that would be the first fight i'd plot after jackQuote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraNo, it’s not a backwards fight. But it’s a “Been there, done that, move on “ fight. And with the amount of possible opponents he’s got, he doesn’t need rematches.Quote:
Originally Posted by TICregis is not a going backwards fightQuote:
Originally Posted by MasterWhy go back? He has some potentially big fights ahead of him and should be looking forward for new challenges.Quote:
Originally Posted by TIC
Let Regis earn the rematch.
Prograis is a very good fighter, he needs to make his own path and if they meet each other down the line, fine. But he doesn’t NEED to fight Prograis.
because it was a tough close fight & he travelled so i'd like to do the same for himQuote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraWhy?Quote:
Originally Posted by TICif i was josh i would rematch regis next in americaQuote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraPrograis NEEDS Taylor. Taylor doesn’t NEED Prograis. If you were Josh Taylor, would you chase Prograis or Terence Crawford?Quote:
Originally Posted by TIChe needs to rematch regis. that would be the first fight i'd plot after jackQuote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraNo, it’s not a backwards fight. But it’s a “Been there, done that, move on “ fight. And with the amount of possible opponents he’s got, he doesn’t need rematches.Quote:
Originally Posted by TICregis is not a going backwards fightQuote:
Originally Posted by MasterWhy go back? He has some potentially big fights ahead of him and should be looking forward for new challenges.Quote:
Originally Posted by TIC
Let Regis earn the rematch.
Prograis is a very good fighter, he needs to make his own path and if they meet each other down the line, fine. But he doesn’t NEED to fight Prograis.
Regis Prograis has done nothing to earn a rematch since he lost to Josh Taylor. Two wins against low level opponents is not enough.
He knew the deal at the start of the tournament . It is what it is. Life’s a bitch sometimes , but hey ho.Quote:
Originally Posted by TICbecause it was a tough close fight & he travelled so i'd like to do the same for himQuote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraWhy?Quote:
Originally Posted by TICif i was josh i would rematch regis next in americaQuote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraPrograis NEEDS Taylor. Taylor doesn’t NEED Prograis. If you were Josh Taylor, would you chase Prograis or Terence Crawford?Quote:
Originally Posted by TIChe needs to rematch regis. that would be the first fight i'd plot after jackQuote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraNo, it’s not a backwards fight. But it’s a “Been there, done that, move on “ fight. And with the amount of possible opponents he’s got, he doesn’t need rematches.Quote:
Originally Posted by TICregis is not a going backwards fightQuote:
Originally Posted by MasterWhy go back? He has some potentially big fights ahead of him and should be looking forward for new challenges.Quote:
Originally Posted by TIC
Let Regis earn the rematch.
Prograis is a very good fighter, he needs to make his own path and if they meet each other down the line, fine. But he doesn’t NEED to fight Prograis.
the fight with josh was enough to warrant a rematchQuote:
Originally Posted by Master
what do you mean by he knew the deal at the start of the tournament?Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraHe knew the deal at the start of the tournament . It is what it is. Life’s a bitch sometimes , but hey ho.Quote:
Originally Posted by TICbecause it was a tough close fight & he travelled so i'd like to do the same for himQuote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraWhy?Quote:
Originally Posted by TICif i was josh i would rematch regis next in americaQuote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraPrograis NEEDS Taylor. Taylor doesn’t NEED Prograis. If you were Josh Taylor, would you chase Prograis or Terence Crawford?Quote:
Originally Posted by TIChe needs to rematch regis. that would be the first fight i'd plot after jackQuote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraNo, it’s not a backwards fight. But it’s a “Been there, done that, move on “ fight. And with the amount of possible opponents he’s got, he doesn’t need rematches.Quote:
Originally Posted by TICregis is not a going backwards fightQuote:
Originally Posted by MasterWhy go back? He has some potentially big fights ahead of him and should be looking forward for new challenges.Quote:
Originally Posted by TIC
Let Regis earn the rematch.
Prograis is a very good fighter, he needs to make his own path and if they meet each other down the line, fine. But he doesn’t NEED to fight Prograis.
Have nothing but respect for Prograis, real local dude and very talented. In a way he's being screwed over now as Dazn is laying it out for Mikey Garcia to make millions vs a gimme instead of Prograis.Quote:
Originally Posted by TICthe fight with josh was enough to warrant a rematchQuote:
Originally Posted by Master
At the same time a guy has to keep pace with roads already traveled. In the ring being active not so much twatter wars. Prograis v Taylor great scrap, close and Taylor proving just a notch above. But that was two years ago and Regis has literally been an afterthought undercard fighter since unfortunately. Worse yet one of those was some clown show with Jake flippin Paul. Taylor has unified the division and was immediately in the chatter of fighting fellow top rank p4p Crawford. It's clear as day his future in in front of him not needing a guy who maybe managed to run close but has sat on the bench since. Lot of this is on the fighter too. Rattle some cages, dispute promotion and demand a relevant top billing..aka go forward. That's on him.