Dream Matchups, revisited
1. Lennox Lewis vs Vitali Klitschko rematch
2. George Foreman vs Muhammad Ali rematch
3. Rocky Marciano vs. Sonny Liston
4. 1965 Muhammad Ali versus 1986 Mike Tyson
5. 1983 Aaron Pryor versus Prime Floyd Mayweather at 140 lbs.
6. Marvin Hagler versus Joe calzaghe
7. Roberto Duran vs Floyd Mayweather
8. Rocky Marciano vs. Joe Frazier
9. Larry Holmes Versus Joe Louis
10. 1973 George Foreman versus 1986 Mike Tyson
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Manny Pac v Floyd when it really mattered and in their primes.
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Good list there.
Peak Ali peak Tyson most intriguing.
Lewis v Wlad at their peak
Eubank Benn III
Lewis v Bowe
Hamed v Mayweather
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Yes you two guys are right. I forgot about Pacquiao versus Mayweather in their primes and also Lewis versus Bowe, damn those two would have been hot
How about this one Gerald McClellan vs. Nigel Benn rematch
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Joe smokes Marciano.
I have been thinking about that and Frasier had about 2 inches in height advantage and Frazier had about 25 lb in weight advatnage, then I guess Frazier's left hook was slightly better. Although I did see Marciano really smoke some people with his left hook. My Uncle Jing attended 4 Marciano fights --- at Madison Square Garden and the old Polo Grounds near Yankee Stadium and 2 times in Pawtucket Rhode Island in 1948. the Italians over here used to drive all the way up to Pawtucket Rhode Island and Providence Rhode Island to watch him fight.
I remember he used to say that when Marciano landed punches it made a different sound upon impact then the sound that other fighters punches made. My uncle had actually seen two ton Tony galento fight in the late 30s as well in Newark New Jersey and also in Jersey City New Jersey at the old Roosevelt Stadium on John F Kennedy Boulevard. I always remember him saying that Marciano's punches made a really strange and deep sound. My uncle was a stonecutter all his life I really tough guy with really big arms and kind of hard of hearing from the heavy machinery.
Anyway he told me all about Marciano when I was just about 15 years old. My uncle lived to be 98 years old. He was a real boxing fan. He saw a Rocky Graziano fight about 6 times and once had a few whiskey highballs with him at the Emerson Old Country Club in Emerson New Jersey.
From what he used to say and I remember this back in the late 70s from what he used to say that Marciano's punches were kind of low explosive sound deeper than a thudding sound. He said it was kind of terrifying and freakish to hear that sound and the people knew back then that there was something really super strong about Marciano's impact. My uncle used to say that he thought Marciano worked out throwing a lot of heavy boulders over his head. he said the Italians used to all try to figure out how Marciano got so much power.
I think Marciano could get you with both hands but I don't think Joe Frazier had much of a right hand and if he did he hardly ever threw it.
I think that fight would be a devastating and blistering fight and I don't think either party would lose any stamina as both Marciano and Frazier seem like they could fight 50 rounds.
I think Marciano leaning back and to his right off the back foot would be a big problem for Frazier to land his left hook. Frasier would miss and then Marciano could really land his counter overhand right and that could knock out Joe.
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McCallum v Canelo 154. A spanking I'd pay to see.
Benny Leonard v Whitaker 135
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McCallum v Canelo 154. A spanking I'd pay to see.
Benny Leonard v Whitaker 135
Can you imagine the noise Canelo would make getting hit to the body by McCallum?
Saul would be running to the ref for protection.
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Can you imagine the noise Canelo would make getting hit to the body by McCallum?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDVRxhLF7lY
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I always thought Ricardo Lopez vs Mark Johnson would have been exceptional to watch.
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I always thought Ricardo Lopez vs Mark Johnson would have been exceptional to watch.
Or Michael Carbajal?
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I always thought Ricardo Lopez vs Mark Johnson would have been exceptional to watch.
Or Michael Carbajal?
Carbajal would have been fun with either, but the quality of work between Lopez & Johnson would have been extraordinary.
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I always thought Ricardo Lopez vs Mark Johnson would have been exceptional to watch.
Or Michael Carbajal?
Carbajal would have been fun with either, but the quality of work between Lopez & Johnson would have been extraordinary.
There was also Gonzales, who lost and won to Michael but not sure if the timeline and weight was right.
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I always thought Ricardo Lopez vs Mark Johnson would have been exceptional to watch.
Or Michael Carbajal?
Carbajal would have been fun with either, but the quality of work between Lopez & Johnson would have been extraordinary.
There was also Gonzales, who lost and won to Michael but not sure if the timeline and weight was right.
Johnson was really just coming into his own around '96, '97. Both Carbajal and Gonzalez were nearing the end of their careers.
Lopez could have made the jump to 108 earlier to catch those guys but he stayed at 105 a little too long.
I think Lopez beats all 3.
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I always thought Ricardo Lopez vs Mark Johnson would have been exceptional to watch.
Or Michael Carbajal?
Carbajal would have been fun with either, but the quality of work between Lopez & Johnson would have been extraordinary.
There was also Gonzales, who lost and won to Michael but not sure if the timeline and weight was right.
Johnson was really just coming into his own around '96, '97. Both Carbajal and Gonzalez were nearing the end of their careers.
Lopez could have made the jump to 108 earlier to catch those guys but he stayed at 105 a little too long.
I think Lopez beats all 3.
Lopez ie regarded as a top elite fighter but if he did this he would have been an ATG.