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    MONZON AND HAGLER ; Why Did They Never Move up ?






    By Jim Amato

    The middleweight division is second only to the heavyweights in
    glamour
    and prestige. "The Nonpareil" Jack Dempsey, Ketchel, Greb, Walker,
    Zale,
    Robinson, and Basilio have all graced this legendary division. Two
    boxers who have been elevated to the mantle of greatness in this class
    were Carlos Monzon and Marvin Hagler yet each boxer had failed
    to do the one thing that may have cemented their ultimate link with
    the Gods
    of boxing. It also denied the fans of the two potentially exciting
    battles.

    Greb, Walker, Zale, Robinson, Basilio, Tiger and Griffith all stepped
    out
    of their natural weight classes to cross gloves with larger men for
    and
    glory. Greb had Tunney, Ketchel had Johnson, Walker had Sharkey and
    Schmeling, Zale had Conn, Robinson had Maxim, Basilio moved up to
    fight
    Robnson and Gene Fullmer and Griffith also moved up from welterweight
    to
    meet Tiger and Dick would eventually capture the light heavyweight
    crown
    from the great Jose Torres.

    Why then did Monzon and Hagler elect not to challenge their
    heavier contemporaries? A 1973 version of Bob Foster was not the kayo
    machine of the late 60's. Instead of meeting Griffith, Briscoe and
    Bouttier
    in re-runs, why not challenge Foster? Carlos was more than willing to
    entertain the challenge of the "smaller" Jose Napoles.

    Michael Spinks wanted to fight Hagler. He even challenged Marvin in a
    couple of boxing publications. Still Marvin found it easier and very
    profitable to take on the likes of Duran, Hearns and Leonard. Remember
    Foster and Spinks moved up in to the land of the heavyweights.

    The three ex-welterweight kings provided Hagler with prime time
    exposure
    and mega-paydays. He probably would have fought Benitez too if Wilfred
    would
    have defeated Hamsho. It's too bad we weren't given the opportunity to
    witness Foster-Monzon and Spinks-Hagler. To Hopkins credit he has
    decided to move up and call out Antonio Tarver. Do I think he will win ?
    No...but he will do what Monzon and Hagler failed to attempt.

    Great fighters make great fights. Foster-Monzon and M.Spinks-Hagler
    may have been classics. Too bad for us fans, we'll never know.

    Jim Amato

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    MONZON AND HAGLER ; Why Did They Never Move up ?






    By Jim Amato

    The middleweight division is second only to the heavyweights in
    glamour
    and prestige. "The Nonpareil" Jack Dempsey, Ketchel, Greb, Walker,
    Zale,
    Robinson, and Basilio have all graced this legendary division. Two
    boxers who have been elevated to the mantle of greatness in this class
    were Carlos Monzon and Marvin Hagler yet each boxer had failed
    to do the one thing that may have cemented their ultimate link with
    the Gods
    of boxing. It also denied the fans of the two potentially exciting
    battles.

    Greb, Walker, Zale, Robinson, Basilio, Tiger and Griffith all stepped
    out
    of their natural weight classes to cross gloves with larger men for
    and
    glory. Greb had Tunney, Ketchel had Johnson, Walker had Sharkey and
    Schmeling, Zale had Conn, Robinson had Maxim, Basilio moved up to
    fight
    Robnson and Gene Fullmer and Griffith also moved up from welterweight
    to
    meet Tiger and Dick would eventually capture the light heavyweight
    crown
    from the great Jose Torres.

    Why then did Monzon and Hagler elect not to challenge their
    heavier contemporaries? A 1973 version of Bob Foster was not the kayo
    machine of the late 60's. Instead of meeting Griffith, Briscoe and
    Bouttier
    in re-runs, why not challenge Foster? Carlos was more than willing to
    entertain the challenge of the "smaller" Jose Napoles.

    Michael Spinks wanted to fight Hagler. He even challenged Marvin in a
    couple of boxing publications. Still Marvin found it easier and very
    profitable to take on the likes of Duran, Hearns and Leonard. Remember
    Foster and Spinks moved up in to the land of the heavyweights.

    The three ex-welterweight kings provided Hagler with prime time
    exposure
    and mega-paydays. He probably would have fought Benitez too if Wilfred
    would
    have defeated Hamsho. It's too bad we weren't given the opportunity to
    witness Foster-Monzon and Spinks-Hagler. To Hopkins credit he has
    decided to move up and call out Antonio Tarver. Do I think he will win ?
    No...but he will do what Monzon and Hagler failed to attempt.

    Great fighters make great fights. Foster-Monzon and M.Spinks-Hagler
    may have been classics. Too bad for us fans, we'll never know.

    Jim Amato
    Spinks was a big LThw/Cruiserweight....Why make that step up?..Hagler had nothing to prove......He fought the best in his division and beat the best..including Leonard...no need to step up and fight a much bigger opponent...Hagler had nothing to gain and everything to lose...plus he could easily make his weight...most stepped up at the end of their careers because they could no longer easily make their weight anymore....i think...i could be wrong on the last part...but look and see if they fought at the lower weights after stepping up...
    It feels good to be back home.

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