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    Default Ray Mercer vs Sam Peter prime for prime, who wins?

    If these two tanks with iron chins went at it who would win? The Merciless one or the Nigerian Nightmare?
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    Default Re: Ray Mercer vs Sam Peter prime for prime, who wins?

    Have to with Mercer - great jab and much better skills in general

    Peter is one dimensional, Mercer was actually gifted - just very under trained and under motivated!
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    Default Re: Ray Mercer vs Sam Peter prime for prime, who wins?

    Quote Originally Posted by BIG H
    Have to with Mercer - great jab and much better skills in general

    Peter is one dimensional, Mercer was actually gifted - just very under trained and under motivated!
    Absolutely no question about it in my mind, Peter would have no chance against a top form Mercer.. Not that he usually came to the ring as such, but say the Mercer that fought Lennox, PEter would be beaten soundly.

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    Default Re: Ray Mercer vs Sam Peter prime for prime, who wins?

    Quote Originally Posted by p4pking
    Quote Originally Posted by BIG H
    Have to with Mercer - great jab and much better skills in general

    Peter is one dimensional, Mercer was actually gifted - just very under trained and under motivated!
    Absolutely no question about it in my mind, Peter would have no chance against a top form Mercer.. Not that he usually came to the ring as such, but say the Mercer that fought Lennox, PEter would be beaten soundly.
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    Default Re: Ray Mercer vs Sam Peter prime for prime, who wins?

    Unfortunealy aside from the Morrison fight, I have not seen a complete fight of Mercer in his prime. I recently saw some clips of him against Holyfield on the ESPN Holyfield special, and he looked pretty good there. You guys are probably right, he would have beaten Peter, but would he have knocked him out? And would Peter have been able to hurt him?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hulk
    Unfortunealy aside from the Morrison fight, I have not seen a complete fight of Mercer in his prime. I recently saw some clips of him against Holyfield on the ESPN Holyfield special, and he looked pretty good there. You guys are probably right, he would have beaten Peter, but would he have knocked him out? And would Peter have been able to hurt him?
    Mercer probably had the second best chin of all the nineties heavyweights (aside from McCall)
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    Default Re: Ray Mercer vs Sam Peter prime for prime, who wins?

    Quote Originally Posted by BIG H
    Quote Originally Posted by Hulk
    Unfortunealy aside from the Morrison fight, I have not seen a complete fight of Mercer in his prime. I recently saw some clips of him against Holyfield on the ESPN Holyfield special, and he looked pretty good there. You guys are probably right, he would have beaten Peter, but would he have knocked him out? And would Peter have been able to hurt him?
    Mercer probably had the second best chin of all the nineties heavyweights (aside from McCall)
    definitely mercer in this one. he was past his best when he gave lewis hell in 96

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    Default Re: Ray Mercer vs Sam Peter prime for prime, who wins?

    So what the hell happened against Larry Holmes?
    Ive never seen footage and its never added up in my mind?

    Did Mercer just flop that night or was Holmes sucking on the last of his fumes?
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Grinch
    So what the hell happened against Larry Holmes?
    Ive never seen footage and its never added up in my mind?

    Did Mercer just flop that night or was Holmes sucking on the last of his fumes?
    He wasn't interested mate, didn't train, wasn't motivated - that's the way Mercer was for a lot of his career, i.e against Jesse Ferguson to name one.
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    Default Re: Ray Mercer vs Sam Peter prime for prime, who wins?

    Mercer very easily. He would have jabbed Peter silly and been miles ahead on the scorecards.

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    Default Re: Ray Mercer vs Sam Peter prime for prime, who wins?

    Ray, he'd simply take the fight to Sam Peter. Sam's power is overrated and if Ray Mercer could take a PRIME Tommy Morrison's accurate left hook and big right cross then he'd walk through anything Sam could throw at him.

    Ray would also pressure Sam to the point he might be able to KO him a la the Morrison fight

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    Default Re: Ray Mercer vs Sam Peter prime for prime, who wins?

    Assumin g like most have already said Ray came into the fight READY to fight then he takes Peter with little difficulty.....Ra hit pretty damn hard and at his best had a chin of steel.....I don't know if he would KO Peter but a UD would easily be in the cards
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    Default Re: Ray Mercer vs Sam Peter prime for prime, who wins?

    Quote Originally Posted by DaxxKahn
    Assumin g like most have already said Ray came into the fight READY to fight then he takes Peter with little difficulty.....Ra hit pretty damn hard and at his best had a chin of steel.....I don't know if he would KO Peter but a UD would easily be in the cards
    good point plus mercers jab gave lewis trouble plus he took prime lewis the distance and only lost razor thin decision so i pick mercer to jab peters head off and win comfortable ud

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    Default Re: Ray Mercer vs Sam Peter prime for prime, who wins?

    Quote Originally Posted by BIG H
    Quote Originally Posted by Hulk
    Unfortunealy aside from the Morrison fight, I have not seen a complete fight of Mercer in his prime. I recently saw some clips of him against Holyfield on the ESPN Holyfield special, and he looked pretty good there. You guys are probably right, he would have beaten Peter, but would he have knocked him out? And would Peter have been able to hurt him?
    Mercer probably had the second best chin of all the nineties heavyweights (aside from McCall)
    Yup . No question

    I reckon Mercer was fundamentally a better all around fighter TBH . His chin was iron plus it was tucked down so if Peter cant knock him out I cant see how he could win . Mercer would win the rounds behind his left jab , better movement , better positioning / balance etc . He may even stop Sam late though Ud would be a safer bet . Mercer was dangerous when he opened up . Ask Morrisson .

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    Default Re: Ray Mercer vs Sam Peter prime for prime, who wins?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hulk
    If these two tanks with iron chins went at it who would win? The Merciless one or the Nigerian Nightmare?
    I think Mercer would pull it off...he had more skill than Peter and I believe He fought better competition than Peter....
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