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    Default Just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds Hatton vs Urango

    Once again...it's on my fellow forum goer's! The weight is finally over...pun intended! Heh heh heh.

    Coming up on Saturday the 20th, 2007 on HBO's World Championship Boxing the British bull dog Ricky "the Hitman" Hatton (41 fights with 30 ko's & 0 losses) comes stateside once again to face undefeated 140 pounder Juan Urango (17 wins with 13ko's, 1 draw, & 0 losses) for the very junior welterweight title that Ricky vacated so many months ago to fight for a title at 147 pounds.

    Although...it should be noted (and it's old news and wasted ammuntition now) that Hatton's "Assault on America" didn't quite make the splash that he had expected & his bid at 147 supremacy last May in Boston floundered as he struggled over a 12 rounder with then champion, Luis Collazo. Whether or not you believe in Hatton or not, one thing is for sure...once he climbs through the ropes...action is quick to follow. Although, Collazo was able to put up a hell of a battle...it was only after he had been dropped to the mat in the very first round, much to his dismay. Hatton is, argueably, right back where he belongs...in the thick of things...knee deep once again...in argueably, one of the most talent rich divisions across the board.

    As he returns to sort out the mess of his old stomping grounds in the Light Welterweight division, two questions are already being juggled by fans. #1: Will the moves up & down the board hurt Hatton...or better him? #2: Urango. Is he a worthy opponant?

    We'll get into that latter...but, let's stick to Hatton for a second.

    Ricky has had quite a run.

    He's undefeated in 41 fights and he's pulled 30 of those wins off by knockout. With a record full of questionable opponents and even more question marks...it's easy for most American fans and casual viewers alike to write Hatton off...that is until he blazes across the screen and smokes most of his opponants with a style reminescent of a young Roberto Duran. Mix that in with the fact that he was voted as Ring's Fighter of the Year, he blew out Kostya Tszyu in 11 rounds, went on to destroy Carlos Maussa, & stood toe to toe with Luis Collazo at 147lbs...well...it's hard not support the kid...or atleast get thoroughly interested in what "the Hitman" has to offer.

    So? Here he is...once again with questions to be answered. The main one being: Will the move back down hurt Hatton? His fans will argue no...all the while his critics constantly remind the fans of the issues that he had during the rise. How a bigger man wasn't so easily bullied and that Urango is also a bigger man...just packaged into a smaller frame. Questions & answers...they always breed more of one than the other...generally they raise more questions. The thing is...Hatton always answers them...& rather dramatically.

    Now that wer'e done lauding Ricky Hatton...let's be fair & give Juan Urango his dues. Juan Urango's an undefeated 140lb power house (17 wins, 1 draw, & 13 ko's) who many think is biting off much much more than he can chew stepping in against Hatton...but Hatton has a bit of an axe to grind here as Urango walked into the light welterweight strap that he now holds when Ricky vacated it last May prior to the Collazo fiasco.

    Urango picked up the strap in a bid for the vacant strap in June against Ben Rabah during a 12 round stinker at the Seminole Hard Rock Arena in Hollywood, Florida. Now he'll have to go through hell and high water to keep it and also to get a handle on the vacant IBO Light Welterweight strap at the same time.

    Personally...I don't give Urango a shot in hell of handling Hatton...he's taylor made for Ricky...no matter what anyone says...Urango lost that fight against Ben Rabah...& if there's any justice...he'll lose this one by knockout.

    In Wacko's opinion, this should be a pleasant return to the division that he had taken by storm over the past 4 or 5 years.

    If he can come back...and come back on point...with Cotto and Mayweather gone...the 140 pound division will be pretty much wide open and he should have a fairly easy shot at regaining his previous status...unless...unless...another certain someone on the rise were to get in his way...that someone?

    Former WBO & WBC Lightweight titlist Jose Luis "El Terrible" Castillo.
    Jose Luis Castillo (62 fights, 54 wins with 47 ko's, 7 losses, & 1 draw) is best known for being the one and only man to give P4P champ Floyd Mayweather an actual fight. He also made a name for both he and his fellow combant Diego Corrales in a vicious contest during the WBC-WBO Lightweight Unification match back in 2005.

    The match took place on May 7, 2005 and if I am not mistaken it won Ring Magazine's Fight of the Year for 2005. It was a hell of a night indeed...one can only hope, pray, & cross all of his toes and fingers that the same might materialize in a possible fight between Hatton and Castillo later on down the road...but both have challenges just around the bend in front of them on this night...

    Or do they?

    I don't know alot about Herman Ngoudjo (15 fights with 9 ko's), other than the fact that he has defended his NABF Light Welterweight strap either 6 or 7 times & now holds the WBC's International Light Welter title. I do know this though, both straps are on the line against Castillo...limited knowledge or not...I think that this is a mistake. The thing is...Ngoudjo didn't come here to just hand his title away...he's faced some decent fighters...none as diverse or strong as Castillo...but decent all the same.

    That being said when Castillo has something to fight for...he fights and then some. With two titles, redemption, & a possible mega money match up on the line & Ngoudjo standing before him...well...whattaya think the outcome's gonna be?

    If wer'e all honest with each other here...both Hatton & Castillo are taking a set of tune-up fights in preperation of a late summer superfight.

    Predictions? Hatton by mid round TKO. Castillo UD.

    We shall see...as always...break out the chips & salsa & pick your poison of choice! So pops some tops & tilt a few back for ole' Wacko...it's fight night!!!

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    Default Re: Just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds Hatton vs Urango

    CC#2566 WackOff3205....

    I voted Hatton TKO (as it puts more on him that he should win convincingly, so that when he doesn't I can criticize him and say how it was expected of him to dismantle Urango ) as I think he can destroy Urango and he should cause Urangos got 18 fights to his name.

    I also took JLC to win via TKO, mid-way rds. about rd. 7....

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    Default Re: Just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds Hatton vs Urango

    Quote Originally Posted by CutMeMicK
    CC#2566 WackOff3205....
    right back babe.

    Just wasn't sure about picking Castillo by TKO...the other guy's never been stopped or dropped...right?
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    Default Re: Just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds Hatton vs Urango

    CC. Wacko. I am flying out to Vegas to see the fight. I am really excited as it is my first fight in person. I haven't even seem amatuers...or been to Vegas.
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    Default Re: Just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds Hatton vs Urango

    Quote Originally Posted by wacko3205
    Quote Originally Posted by CutMeMicK
    CC#2566 WackOff3205....
    right back babe.

    Just wasn't sure about picking Castillo by TKO...the other guy's never been stopped or dropped...right?
    From what I've read and seen. Agustus was robbed whe he fough him. But I read it in one of Stars posts.....

    Just bull-shetting man!! He was hurt late in the fight by Agustus and dropped for the count in the last round with like 13 seconds left he got up and beat the count as the bell rang and he won a decision. Heres a video of the fight.

    [youtube=425,350]6RkFAcirNbM[/youtube]

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    Default Re: Just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds Hatton vs Urango

    He didn't look like much against Augustus but then again who does He seems like he has a good idea on his boxing skills but but Augustus was catching him inside the shots and his hooks with counter hooks and Castillo is one of the bets hookers in the business. And he should catch this guy the same way he caught Corrales. This dude seems to have heart when he's hurt but I think Castillo should stop him.
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    Default Re: Just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds Hatton vs Urango

    Hatton and Castillo to score big TKO's to set up their future bout nicely

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    Default Re: Just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds Hatton vs Urango

    I voted Hatton KO and Castillo UD they should both be very exciting to watch and I'll be dissapointed either one of them underperforms.
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    Default Re: Just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds Hatton vs Urango

    Hatton imo is doing the wrong thing running to 140. The Luiz fight was tough because Luiz was a tough fighter. I could never have seen Hatton lose that fight but he underetimated him and thats what his problem was. Hatton at the end of the day was a 147 champion and he had big names coming for him. But what Hatton feels right ill support him to the end.

    140 is his for the taking and we know this. As for oppanants that is a big question that needs adressing. There is that many big names that would make Hatton's name stand out if he beat them. I feel that he has gone to 140 for the easy option but don't get me wrong there are some intresing fights to be made.

    Urango imo is a better choice for Hatton. The guy is a world champion and is undeafted. I know he can be questioned as a champion but at the end of the day he is walking in the ring with Hatton's belt. I can't see this being a difficult fight but i dont want Hatton to feel now he has gone back to 140 he is superman. He isn't superman and this guy is more than capable of causing Ricky problems. But if all goes to plan etc etc i feel it should be a win for Hatton by a stoppage because im sure this guy hasnt felt power like Hatton's to the body. But i don't want Hatton to get careless because we know this guy is a major underdog and he would have done his homework on him.

    As for the future of Ricky i feel that 3-4 big names could be settled with at 140. I want to see Ricky fight Castillo, Corrales , Witter and finally hopkins. After that he should go to 147 again if not sooner and make some money!


    CC for you wack!

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    Quote Originally Posted by wacko3205
    Quote Originally Posted by CutMeMicK
    CC#2566 WackOff3205....
    right back babe.

    Just wasn't sure about picking Castillo by TKO...the other guy's never been stopped or dropped...right?
    Wrong. He scraped by Emanuel Augustus with a points win and he was dropped in the 12, and hurt bad. Just recently. He does pretty well for most of the fight and hit Emanuel with lots of hard shots, but he definetly escaped a TKO loss by seconds really. It was a good fight too, but you've got to think if Augustus can hurt him that badly that Castillo should do it much earlier, he doesn't goof around for 8 rounds and has a hell of alot more power. He'll be right at this kid, and is by far the toughest opponent he's ever faced, just as Emanuel was... Im not too keen of Ngoudjo even taking this match because he's definetly got potential, he was an excellent amatuer as well.. But this is too much considering that he was so close to being stopped imo. He does have a couple good wins since then I think, so maybe it'll be a good fight. Im hoping so.

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    Default Re: Just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds Hatton vs Urango

    I'm going for JLC points and Hatton late stoppage. CC Wack for the analysis.

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    Default Re: Just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds Hatton vs Urango

    Quote Originally Posted by boozeboxer
    CC. Wacko. I am flying out to Vegas to see the fight. I am really excited as it is my first fight in person. I haven't even seem amatuers...or been to Vegas.
    back. Lucky bastige. Hope you enjoy the match...all 3 to 6 rounds of it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tam Seddon


    As for the future of Ricky i feel that 3-4 big names could be settled with at 140. I want to see Ricky fight Castillo, Corrales , Witter and finally hopkins. After that he should go to 147 again if not sooner and make some money!


    CC for you wack!
    back. I agree...I think that Witter & Castillo & maybe Hopkins are the fights to take.

    Quote Originally Posted by El Gamo
    I'm going for JLC points and Hatton late stoppage. CC Wack for the analysis.
    right back. Thanks babe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wacko3205
    Quote Originally Posted by boozeboxer
    CC. Wacko. I am flying out to Vegas to see the fight. I am really excited as it is my first fight in person. I haven't even seem amatuers...or been to Vegas.
    back. Lucky bastige. Hope you enjoy the match...all 3 to 6 rounds of it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tam Seddon


    As for the future of Ricky i feel that 3-4 big names could be settled with at 140. I want to see Ricky fight Castillo, Corrales , Witter and finally hopkins. After that he should go to 147 again if not sooner and make some money!


    CC for you wack!
    back. I agree...I think that Witter & Castillo & maybe Hopkins are the fights to take.

    Quote Originally Posted by El Gamo
    I'm going for JLC points and Hatton late stoppage. CC Wack for the analysis.
    right back. Thanks babe.
    I say Hopkins because i belive in 2-3 time he will be one of the biggest names in the 140 weight devison and the name HOPKINS! would stand out on Hattons record.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tam Seddon
    I say Hopkins because i belive in 2-3 time he will be one of the biggest names in the 140 weight devison and the name HOPKINS! would stand out on Hattons record.
    Here's the thing, I've been hard up on Demetrius since he started coming up...what with the Nard retiring & me looking for a replacement.

    They have the same style & he's starting to get as crafty as his Unc...but I guestion his chin...or atleast I worry about it.

    He's upped his defense & he's also upped his power & I see him being a force within his division...but I aint so sure about the outcome against the top 10 guys.
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    Default Re: Just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds Hatton vs Urango

    Quote Originally Posted by wacko3205
    Once again...it's on my fellow forum goer's! The weight is finally over...pun intended! Heh heh heh.

    Coming up on Saturday the 20th, 2007 on HBO's World Championship Boxing the British bull dog Ricky "the Hitman" Hatton (41 fights with 30 ko's & 0 losses) comes stateside once again to face undefeated 140 pounder Juan Urango (17 wins with 13ko's, 1 draw, & 0 losses) for the very junior welterweight title that Ricky vacated so many months ago to fight for a title at 147 pounds.

    Although...it should be noted (and it's old news and wasted ammuntition now) that Hatton's "Assault on America" didn't quite make the splash that he had expected & his bid at 147 supremacy last May in Boston floundered as he struggled over a 12 rounder with then champion, Luis Collazo. Whether or not you believe in Hatton or not, one thing is for sure...once he climbs through the ropes...action is quick to follow. Although, Collazo was able to put up a hell of a battle...it was only after he had been dropped to the mat in the very first round, much to his dismay. Hatton is, argueably, right back where he belongs...in the thick of things...knee deep once again...in argueably, one of the most talent rich divisions across the board.

    As he returns to sort out the mess of his old stomping grounds in the Light Welterweight division, two questions are already being juggled by fans. #1: Will the moves up & down the board hurt Hatton...or better him? #2: Urango. Is he a worthy opponant?

    We'll get into that latter...but, let's stick to Hatton for a second.

    Ricky has had quite a run.

    He's undefeated in 41 fights and he's pulled 30 of those wins off by knockout. With a record full of questionable opponents and even more question marks...it's easy for most American fans and casual viewers alike to write Hatton off...that is until he blazes across the screen and smokes most of his opponants with a style reminescent of a young Roberto Duran. Mix that in with the fact that he was voted as Ring's Fighter of the Year, he blew out Kostya Tszyu in 11 rounds, went on to destroy Carlos Maussa, & stood toe to toe with Luis Collazo at 147lbs...well...it's hard not support the kid...or atleast get thoroughly interested in what "the Hitman" has to offer.

    So? Here he is...once again with questions to be answered. The main one being: Will the move back down hurt Hatton? His fans will argue no...all the while his critics constantly remind the fans of the issues that he had during the rise. How a bigger man wasn't so easily bullied and that Urango is also a bigger man...just packaged into a smaller frame. Questions & answers...they always breed more of one than the other...generally they raise more questions. The thing is...Hatton always answers them...& rather dramatically.

    Now that wer'e done lauding Ricky Hatton...let's be fair & give Juan Urango his dues. Juan Urango's an undefeated 140lb power house (17 wins, 1 draw, & 13 ko's) who many think is biting off much much more than he can chew stepping in against Hatton...but Hatton has a bit of an axe to grind here as Urango walked into the light welterweight strap that he now holds when Ricky vacated it last May prior to the Collazo fiasco.

    Urango picked up the strap in a bid for the vacant strap in June against Ben Rabah during a 12 round stinker at the Seminole Hard Rock Arena in Hollywood, Florida. Now he'll have to go through hell and high water to keep it and also to get a handle on the vacant IBO Light Welterweight strap at the same time.

    Personally...I don't give Urango a shot in hell of handling Hatton...he's taylor made for Ricky...no matter what anyone says...Urango lost that fight against Ben Rabah...& if there's any justice...he'll lose this one by knockout.

    In Wacko's opinion, this should be a pleasant return to the division that he had taken by storm over the past 4 or 5 years.

    If he can come back...and come back on point...with Cotto and Mayweather gone...the 140 pound division will be pretty much wide open and he should have a fairly easy shot at regaining his previous status...unless...unless...another certain someone on the rise were to get in his way...that someone?

    Former WBO & WBC Lightweight titlist Jose Luis "El Terrible" Castillo.
    Jose Luis Castillo (62 fights, 54 wins with 47 ko's, 7 losses, & 1 draw) is best known for being the one and only man to give P4P champ Floyd Mayweather an actual fight. He also made a name for both he and his fellow combant Diego Corrales in a vicious contest during the WBC-WBO Lightweight Unification match back in 2005.

    The match took place on May 7, 2005 and if I am not mistaken it won Ring Magazine's Fight of the Year for 2005. It was a hell of a night indeed...one can only hope, pray, & cross all of his toes and fingers that the same might materialize in a possible fight between Hatton and Castillo later on down the road...but both have challenges just around the bend in front of them on this night...

    Or do they?

    I don't know alot about Herman Ngoudjo (15 fights with 9 ko's), other than the fact that he has defended his NABF Light Welterweight strap either 6 or 7 times & now holds the WBC's International Light Welter title. I do know this though, both straps are on the line against Castillo...limited knowledge or not...I think that this is a mistake. The thing is...Ngoudjo didn't come here to just hand his title away...he's faced some decent fighters...none as diverse or strong as Castillo...but decent all the same.

    That being said when Castillo has something to fight for...he fights and then some. With two titles, redemption, & a possible mega money match up on the line & Ngoudjo standing before him...well...whattaya think the outcome's gonna be?

    If wer'e all honest with each other here...both Hatton & Castillo are taking a set of tune-up fights in preperation of a late summer superfight.

    Predictions? Hatton by mid round TKO. Castillo UD.

    We shall see...as always...break out the chips & salsa & pick your poison of choice! So pops some tops & tilt a few back for ole' Wacko...it's fight night!!!

    Cheers & koneecheewah bitches.
    for the write up fella;

    I think after this hatton needs JLC, depending how witter does him for domestic value and then move up. I really don't think we seen the best of hatton in his last fight, and he has taken alot of unnecessary criesism from it. he needs a few more names and JCL is one, Unless any top guys come down from 147 he will have to move up and chase them.

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