Official results are in...Valuev three times better than Wladimir Klitschko

[landmine950]

Well there can be no denying it now.
The entire world now knows!
Since it took Wladimir Klischko 10 rounds to beat Jameel McCline
and Nicolai Valuev just destroyed him after only 2 full rounds, it is undeniable that Valuev is AT LEAST 3 times as good as Wladimir.
Maybe 5 times depending on the math,.. 2 rounds to 9 or ten?

Despite the false and ridiculous rumour sthat are already being circulated by the usual "Wlad lovers" in a smear campaign against the great Russian giant that some how Jameel "fell" or "twisted" his knee, the facts are as follows.

Valuev hit Jameel SO hard that it broke Jameel McClines leg!
This is the actual fact and CANNOT be argued since it was reported to be so, by no less a respected and un-biased source as the greatest and most respected boxing promoter in the history of the world and International Boxing Hall of Famer Inductee in 1997 DON KING!
Mr. Kings reputation is untarnished and he has not been involved in ANY murders since 1954! (a woman named Hillary Brown)

He has however been charged with
Arson
Drug Dealing
Carrying a concealed weapon
ManSlaughter (stomped and pistol whipped Sam Garret to death)
Conspiracy
Tax Evasion
Money Laundering and
Insurance fraud
as recently as 1998

But hey who doesn't have a few "parking tickets"

So anyway.. it's official.
Don King Said it! so don't even try to argue with the facts!

[sexydarin]

What a circus the heavyweight division is. They let a guy, who outweighs everybody, into the heavyweight division. If this guy didn't have the height and weight advantage, he would be nothing. What's next, an 8'5" guy who outweighs his competition by 150 lbs?!? What a circus.

[Arne]

Wlad is much more tactical and skillful fighter than Valuev, Wlad will crush this guy!

[AdamGB]

Valuev is 3 times hairier

[Pugilistic]

Valuev is 3 times hairier

lol

[DaxxKahn]

Well there can be no denying it now.
The entire world now knows!
Since it took Wladimir Klischko 10 rounds to beat Jameel McCline
and Nicolai Valuev just destroyed him after only 2 full rounds, it is undeniable that Valuev is AT LEAST 3 times as good as Wladimir.
Maybe 5 times depending on the math,.. 2 rounds to 9 or ten?

Despite the false and ridiculous rumour sthat are already being circulated by the usual "Wlad lovers" in a smear campaign against the great Russian giant that some how Jameel "fell" or "twisted" his knee, the facts are as follows.

Valuev hit Jameel SO hard that it broke Jameel McClines leg!
This is the actual fact and CANNOT be argued since it was reported to be so, by no less a respected and un-biased source as the greatest and most respected boxing promoter in the history of the world and International Boxing Hall of Famer Inductee in 1997 DON KING!
Mr. Kings reputation is untarnished and he has not been involved in ANY murders since 1954! (a woman named Hillary Brown)

He has however been charged with
Arson
Drug Dealing
Carrying a concealed weapon
ManSlaughter (stomped and pistol whipped Sam Garret to death)
Conspiracy
Tax Evasion
Money Laundering and
Insurance fraud
as recently as 1998

But hey who doesn't have a few "parking tickets"

So anyway.. it's official.
Don King Said it! so don't even try to argue with the facts!

Well if Don King said so it must be true ......He also pays his fighters in $3 bills

[ICB]

Well there can be no denying it now.
The entire world now knows!
Since it took Wladimir Klischko 10 rounds to beat Jameel McCline
and Nicolai Valuev just destroyed him after only 2 full rounds, it is undeniable that Valuev is AT LEAST 3 times as good as Wladimir.
Maybe 5 times depending on the math,.. 2 rounds to 9 or ten?

Despite the false and ridiculous rumour sthat are already being circulated by the usual "Wlad lovers" in a smear campaign against the great Russian giant that some how Jameel "fell" or "twisted" his knee, the facts are as follows.

Valuev hit Jameel SO hard that it broke Jameel McClines leg!
This is the actual fact and CANNOT be argued since it was reported to be so, by no less a respected and un-biased source as the greatest and most respected boxing promoter in the history of the world and International Boxing Hall of Famer Inductee in 1997 DON KING!
Mr. Kings reputation is untarnished and he has not been involved in ANY murders since 1954! (a woman named Hillary Brown)

He has however been charged with
Arson
Drug Dealing
Carrying a concealed weapon
ManSlaughter (stomped and pistol whipped Sam Garret to death)
Conspiracy
Tax Evasion
Money Laundering and
Insurance fraud
as recently as 1998

But hey who doesn't have a few "parking tickets"

So anyway.. it's official.
Don King Said it! so don't even try to argue with the facts!

it doesnt mean because it took wlad longer that he isnt better

[TitoFan]

What a circus the heavyweight division is. They let a guy, who outweighs everybody, into the heavyweight division. If this guy didn't have the height and weight advantage, he would be nothing. What's next, an 8'5" guy who outweighs his competition by 150 lbs?!? What a circus.

You know, of all the posts I've read lately about Valuev, I like yours the best. I agree 300%. Why is the heavyweight division open-ended? Letting Valuev fight 220 pound guys is like putting middleweights in the ring with bantamweights. It's just not fair. And yeah... Valuev is not that good. Seeing him talk about 49-0, one of boxing's more revered records, makes my stomach turn. So I, for one, will decide to stay off the bandwagon on this one.

Have a

[landmine950]

What a circus the heavyweight division is. They let a guy, who outweighs everybody, into the heavyweight division. If this guy didn't have the height and weight advantage, he would be nothing. What's next, an 8'5" guy who outweighs his competition by 150 lbs?!? What a circus.

Ya,if he didn't...but he does....And If Wlad wasn't fast etc.
I agree tall fighters should have any advantage they have taken away!
Make them fight on their knees I say! And big strong heavyweights should be given strength sapping injections of the flu!
Hey, and guys with good speed and footwork?? tie their shoelaces together!
Anyone who outweighs everyone should be banned.....hmm but then the next heaviest guy ..becomes the heaviest....hmm....BAN HIM TOO!! and the second tallest guy! till all thats left is normal guys!
All we really need is Roy Jones jr. 194 pounds hopping on one leg and blindfolded. Gotta make it fair!


P.S. if you know a 8'5"guy who weighs 400 pounds.....ask him if he needs a manager!?.....(call me)

[Kev]

What a circus the heavyweight division is. They let a guy, who outweighs everybody, into the heavyweight division. If this guy didn't have the height and weight advantage, he would be nothing. What's next, an 8'5" guy who outweighs his competition by 150 lbs?!? What a circus.

You know, of all the posts I've read lately about Valuev, I like yours the best. I agree 300%. Why is the heavyweight division open-ended? Letting Valuev fight 220 pound guys is like putting middleweights in the ring with bantamweights. It's just not fair. And yeah... Valuev is not that good. Seeing him talk about 49-0, one of boxing's more revered records, makes my stomach turn. So I, for one, will decide to stay off the bandwagon on this one.

Have a

I actually disagree here. The reason a middleweight cannot fight at bantamweight is that they would have so much extra power and strength that it would be a mismatch.

Once your in the heavyweight ranks though being of freakishly large size isn't actually all that much of an advantage.

Show me one giant in any combat sport who has reigned supreme. They don't. They are too slow and cumbersome to be really effective.

Look at Giant Silva, the biggest combat fighter around. At 7 ft 7 he dwarfs even Valuev any yet to my knowledge has lost virtually all of his K-1 fights apart from a fight against fellow monster 464 lb Akebono.

Akebono it goes without saying has lost all of his 13 or so fights

[landmine950]

In seriousness tho'
I do think a re-alignment of the divisions is due
of example 160-168-175-190+
a 8,7,15 pound jump,doesnt make sense
And a 190 pound guys against the new breed of supers needs a review

Id like to see the divs divided by weight in kilos like in the Olympics
with super heavy at 100 kilograms (220.5 pounds) and up

I have thought about it but its hardto come up with weigts that are close at the lower ranks
LOL I don't like the names either!

i like Middle and super middle @ say 160 and 167.5
then should be cruiser and super cruiser @ 176.5 185.2
then heavy and super heavy 198.5, 220.5

In kilos 72.5 , 76
80 , 84
90 100

sounds better and makes more sense...In my semi-pickled mind anyway!