i just looked on boxrec and see miranda was down in 8th and green down twice in 10th i was suprised it went distance how close was fight for whoever see it ??
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 were people suprised that green vs miranda ............ spoilers
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		i just looked on boxrec and see miranda was down in 8th and green down twice in 10th i was suprised it went distance how close was fight for whoever see it ??
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		Heres CC#600 ICE,
I was VERY surprised it wen't the distance I think most people thought TKO either way....
Really good scrap....
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		cc back i must get some footage of the fight sounds like a crackerOriginally Posted by CutMeMicK
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		It wasn't as much of a "cracker" as you might think from the knockdowns. It was more of a chessmatch. There was more action from round 8 on, when Green knew than he needed to let his hands go more.It was a whole bunch of Green running, jabbing, and looking to counter with his left hook. I had Green losing every round except round 2 until the knockdown, which was pretty much a flash knockdown.
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		Green was very scared to let his hands go and miranda even started to taunt sweetness badly in the 7th because he wouldnt fight...
Its probably what prompted the knockdown of miranda early in the seventh!
He couldnt maintain any aggression and lost the decision... Miranda was strong in the last round though..
I have great respect for him trying to stop green ..Even with a undisputed solid lead throughout the fight and still was gunning for him in the closing seconds for a stoppage...
Really quite disapointed wth green though.. I wonder where he goes now?!
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		I was surprised that Miranda had such a good jab but I think it's because Green never committed to throwing the right cross.
It was a chess match style fight with spurts of action....I figured Green would knock Edison down but I thought he seemed weight drained.
I don't know why people say Jermain Taylor should be afraid of such big middleweights as JT is a big guy himself
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		It was no where near the phone booth fight you would expect after all the pre fight hostility. Green wasn't looking to trade shots as I had a feeling he wouldn't. He spent most of the night on his bicycle but wasn't effective enough to take the rounds. Green put Miranda down in the 8th and things really started to heat up from there. Once Green realized he needed a knockout to win and had to be more aggresive he found himself on the canvas. And if this fight had been about 30 seconds longer Miranda would have won by TKO.
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		JT is the same size as Allan Green.Originally Posted by Lyle
Miranda is extremely well built - all natural too.
I hear he does no weights at all, just boxing and roadwork.
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		I find "miranda doesn't lift any wieghts" very hard to believe. The guy has muscles on top of muscles.
"If there's a better chin in the world than Pryor's, it has to be on Mount Rushmore." -Pat Putnam.
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		He grew up tough...he got strong through working construction and so on.
People forget how ripped you can get by just doing pushups and situps and so on
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		Well that is true Lyle. He just looked like a "gym rat". I hope you are right though.
"If there's a better chin in the world than Pryor's, it has to be on Mount Rushmore." -Pat Putnam.
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		People also believe lifting weights makes you less flexible or "musclebound" ......if you do the proper stretching before AND AFTER lifting the addition of muscle does not diminish flexibility.Originally Posted by boozeboxer
Edison is well built though, mighty strong
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		The only thing that surprised me was the right of Miranda. It's strange how all his punches can be so wild but he could have such a good right. It was a good outside weapon. It also left him open to counter but Green just didn't let his hands go.
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		I didn't think it was a great fight, but it was one of those that had some tension to it cause they can both punch.
I was surprised it went the distance, I didn't think Green had the defense or the chin to last the distance, but then again I didn't think he would fight so cautiously, just refused to take any risks at all.
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		I was actually disappointed in both of them to be honest. Allan Green proved he had the heart and mouth of an Audley Harrison, backing up his confidnet smack talk with a thouroughly lamentable display in the ring.
I was pleased to see Miranda try and press for every single round, you have to give him credit for trying but honestly he's too lacking in the skill departments to be able to live up to his hype.
Personally I think at 160 Taylor, Pavlick and Abraham all beat Miranda, and at 168lb I'd fancy Calzaghe, Kessler, Andrade, Froch, maybe Mundine and Bute too all to do a number on him.
He's getting knocked out by Pavlick in his next fight.
As for Green, I don't know what went wrong for him. His mind didn't seem on the job, he spent more time looking at the referee and his feet than at Miranda, turned his back to Pantera about 5 times in the fight and generally looked to have no fight in him whatsoever.
How much of that was due to the weight loss and how much due to AudleyHarrisonism I don't know.
But I'm fairly confident that neither will be a major player at 160 or 168lb for long.
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