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    Default Experts opinions on Oscar Floyd outcome....(VERY interesting)

    Roberto Duran: ``De La Hoya has the stronger punch. Mayweather is not used to facing bigger men. [ Carlos] Baldomir didn't have the talent of De La Hoya and Mayweather couldn't finish him. If De La Hoya cuts him early, Mayweather is going to be limited. De La Hoya by decision.''

    Angelo Dundee, Hall of Fame trainer of 15 world champions: ``This is a great fight and we are so grateful because boxing needs that shot in the arm. Mayweather has never fought a guy as big and talented as De La Hoya. The good big man almost always beats the good little man. I see it going the distance and De La Hoya winning convincingly.''

    Hank Kaplan, Hall of Fame boxing historian: ``De La Hoya hasn't had enough activity to lick Mayweather. Boxing is a sport in which you need to be active and maintain your skills. Mayweather is too fast, has tremendous instincts and is a great counter-puncher. Mayweather wins by decision.''

    Glen Johnson, former light-heavyweight champion: ``De La Hoya will do enough stuff from the outside. He is not a guy to rush in to prove a point. That's why he will use the jab, force Floyd to come inside and use his combinations. I see it going the distance with De La Hoya winning.''
    Santos A. Perez of the Miami Herald.

    Dino Duva, promoter at Duva Boxing: "Mayweather will win by decision. It's his time. He's proven he's clearly the best fighter in the world. De La Hoya can't keep fighting once every two years and maintain everything. And Mayweather is the total package."

    Tommy Brooks, trainer of light heavyweight Shaun George: "Mayweather wins by knockout in eight. He has so much speed, and he's extremely strong. People don't realize how strong he is. He's a very strong young man. De La Hoya also has trouble handling guys with speed. And the way Mayweather uses angles along with that speed, De La Hoya is going to get crucified."

    Yoel Judah, trainer and father of former undisputed welterweight champ Zab Judah: "De La Hoya will end it in nine. The key will be Oscar making Floyd fight. If Oscar can make Floyd fight, he'll knock him out. He's going to hurt Floyd; Floyd's not going to hurt him. De La Hoya's the bigger, stronger man who can punch."

    Lou DiBella, promoter at DiBella Entertainment: "Mayweather by a hotly contested decision. De La Hoya is bigger and stronger. He will do more stalking. There's a bias these days against the boxer. ... So Oscar will get a lot of credit for being the bull to Mayweather's matador. But I like Mayweather's youth and speed."

    Lou Duva, Hall of Fame trainer: "De La Hoya by 10th-round knockout. With Mayweather's father and uncle, it'll be chaos in the corner. And Mayweather has really gotten under Oscar's skin. I know Oscar very well ... he takes everything to heart."
    by Franklin McNeil of the New Jersey Star-Ledger.


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    Bit surprised by Tommy Brooks comment. I think Mayweather will win, but destroying Oscar in 8 rounds? I guess he thinks that he'll raise his level of fighting for the big moment but I haven't seen anything to make me think he's that kind of puncher at this weight. He's still the sharpest puncher in boxing and he can hurt you with accumulation but still kind of surprising comments from Brooks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OumaFan
    Bit surprised by Tommy Brooks comment. I think Mayweather will win, but destroying Oscar in 8 rounds? I guess he thinks that he'll raise his level of fighting for the big moment but I haven't seen anything to make me think he's that kind of puncher at this weight. He's still the sharpest puncher in boxing and he can hurt you with accumulation but still kind of surprising comments from Brooks.
    Brooks is on CRACK!!! This is not " Chicanito" Hernandez or Philip N'dou. This is Oscar!!!!! No way in hell he'll be KOed by Mayweather. Vargas landed some solid shots and he couldn't do it. Many people think Floyd will just hit at will, they believe he is 100 times faster than Oscar...he's only about 1.5 times faster. Oscar is not necessarily a SLOW fighter and he can hit! Man can't wait for this fight!

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    Quote Originally Posted by OumaFan
    Bit surprised by Tommy Brooks comment. I think Mayweather will win, but destroying Oscar in 8 rounds? I guess he thinks that he'll raise his level of fighting for the big moment but I haven't seen anything to make me think he's that kind of puncher at this weight. He's still the sharpest puncher in boxing and he can hurt you with accumulation but still kind of surprising comments from Brooks.
    Totally agree,I was surprised by that too. I was also confused by Durans' comments...so if Oscar does not cut Floyd,he won't win?

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Gamo
    Quote Originally Posted by OumaFan
    Bit surprised by Tommy Brooks comment. I think Mayweather will win, but destroying Oscar in 8 rounds? I guess he thinks that he'll raise his level of fighting for the big moment but I haven't seen anything to make me think he's that kind of puncher at this weight. He's still the sharpest puncher in boxing and he can hurt you with accumulation but still kind of surprising comments from Brooks.
    Totally agree,I was surprised by that too. I was also confused by Durans' comments...so if Oscar does not cut Floyd,he won't win?
    That was kind of an odd comment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OumaFan
    Quote Originally Posted by El Gamo
    Quote Originally Posted by OumaFan
    Bit surprised by Tommy Brooks comment. I think Mayweather will win, but destroying Oscar in 8 rounds? I guess he thinks that he'll raise his level of fighting for the big moment but I haven't seen anything to make me think he's that kind of puncher at this weight. He's still the sharpest puncher in boxing and he can hurt you with accumulation but still kind of surprising comments from Brooks.
    That was kind of an odd comment.
    Not odd at all. To put it in Foreman's words " Oscar has a jab that STINGS! " He loves to go after blood. His jab is very stiff and makes your head go back. Foreman also pointed out that doing this takes energy off your back. Very interesting comment acually, he should have asked " How will Floyd deal with a bloody face? "

    We've had tons of posts about this great fight and very few people, if any, have said anything about DLH's right hand. Why is everyone forgetting about this? The last few years, he has used it very effectively.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jman76
    Quote Originally Posted by OumaFan
    Quote Originally Posted by El Gamo
    Quote Originally Posted by OumaFan
    Bit surprised by Tommy Brooks comment. I think Mayweather will win, but destroying Oscar in 8 rounds? I guess he thinks that he'll raise his level of fighting for the big moment but I haven't seen anything to make me think he's that kind of puncher at this weight. He's still the sharpest puncher in boxing and he can hurt you with accumulation but still kind of surprising comments from Brooks.
    That was kind of an odd comment.
    Not odd at all. To put it in Foreman's words " Oscar has a jab that STINGS! " He loves to go after blood. His jab is very stiff and makes your head go back. Foreman also pointed out that doing this takes energy off your back. Very interesting comment acually, he should have asked " How will Floyd deal with a bloody face? "

    We've had tons of posts about this great fight and very few people, if any, have said anything about DLH's right hand. Why is everyone forgetting about this? The last few years, he has used it very effectively.
    Basing a prediction on Floyd getting cut seems a bit odd to me. Could it happen, sure, but I doubt it will, and either way, its an odd reason to justify a prediction.

    Oscar's right hand has gotten better, the question is, like with all his punches, is how consistently is he going to be able to land it.

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    When has he used the right effectively in the last few years? In the last few years,he has fought B Hop,Mayorga and Sturm,I don't recall the right hand being THAT important. The right hand was being hyped v Vargas but he beat him with the left hook too. His right hand could be a weapon but it's not that great at the moment. I've seen them working on it in training though.

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    I think its interesting whether or not just winning will be enough for Floyd. Will he fight a very conservative fight like he did against Castillo in the second fight, or against Baldomir, or will he try to put on a show, and try to be exciting to the casual fan?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OumaFan
    I think its interesting whether or not just winning will be enough for Floyd. Will he fight a very conservative fight like he did against Castillo in the second fight, or against Baldomir, or will he try to put on a show, and try to be exciting to the casual fan?
    I wonder about this too. If it is his last fight,I'm sure he wants to go out as high as possible and wants to give the fans something to talk about. Also,he has been waiting for this for a long long time,I remember him mentioning Oscar a long time ago. He may want to leave an impression. Also,if he carries on fighting after this fight,if he wins this fight well,he'll be a big star.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Gamo
    When has he used the right effectively in the last few years? In the last few years,he has fought B Hop,Mayorga and Sturm,I don't recall the right hand being THAT important. The right hand was being hyped v Vargas but he beat him with the left hook too. His right hand could be a weapon but it's not that great at the moment. I've seen them working on it in training though.
    The right is not his main weapon but it is useful now. Before it would just be there on his right hand side blocking...NO MORE. I'm not saying he dominated with the right hand but is using it more. You should watch the Mayorga fight again and see how he used the right hand. The B hop fight doesn't make your point stronger here since Oscar had no chance of winning. Where was Trinidad's explosive power with Winky and Bhop? Who cares, Trinidad had no chance against those two. So we shouldn't even bring those up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OumaFan
    Quote Originally Posted by Jman76
    Quote Originally Posted by OumaFan
    Quote Originally Posted by El Gamo
    Quote Originally Posted by OumaFan
    Bit surprised by Tommy Brooks comment. I think Mayweather will win, but destroying Oscar in 8 rounds? I guess he thinks that he'll raise his level of fighting for the big moment but I haven't seen anything to make me think he's that kind of puncher at this weight. He's still the sharpest puncher in boxing and he can hurt you with accumulation but still kind of surprising comments from Brooks.
    That was kind of an odd comment.
    Not odd at all. To put it in Foreman's words " Oscar has a jab that STINGS! " He loves to go after blood. His jab is very stiff and makes your head go back. Foreman also pointed out that doing this takes energy off your back. Very interesting comment acually, he should have asked " How will Floyd deal with a bloody face? "

    We've had tons of posts about this great fight and very few people, if any, have said anything about DLH's right hand. Why is everyone forgetting about this? The last few years, he has used it very effectively.
    Basing a prediction on Floyd getting cut seems a bit odd to me. Could it happen, sure, but I doubt it will, and either way, its an odd reason to justify a prediction.

    Oscar's right hand has gotten better, the question is, like with all his punches, is how consistently is he going to be able to land it.
    Does anyone EVER expect cuts to factor in a prediction, especially in a Mega Fight? People are always shocked and pissed to see fights being stopped early because of cuts. I think he makes an interesting point though...how would Mayweather deal with a cut in rounds 1 and 2?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OumaFan
    I think its interesting whether or not just winning will be enough for Floyd. Will he fight a very conservative fight like he did against Castillo in the second fight, or against Baldomir, or will he try to put on a show, and try to be exciting to the casual fan?
    Put on a show? Oscar will be forced to cut the ring off and take him that way... PBF is not there to put on a show... He is there to win... He doesn't care if his fans like the outcome or not... He just wants to say "I told you so!" Oscar will have to catch this little bastard and Tatoo him!
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    Oscar will have to catch this little B****** and Tatoo him!


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    Quote Originally Posted by "PRIDE OF BOSTON"
    Quote Originally Posted by OumaFan
    I think its interesting whether or not just winning will be enough for Floyd. Will he fight a very conservative fight like he did against Castillo in the second fight, or against Baldomir, or will he try to put on a show, and try to be exciting to the casual fan?
    Put on a show? Oscar will be forced to cut the ring off and take him that way... PBF is not there to put on a show... He is there to win... He doesn't care if his fans like the outcome or not... He just wants to say "I told you so!" Oscar will have to catch this little bastard and Tatoo him!

    That is a misconception about Lil Floyd which even I held until just a short time ago(3 days ago actually). Floyd does care what the fans think at times. He didn't care v Baldo simply because he was playing it safe,he wanted to guarantee the big payday v Oscar. However,most of his career,he has made slight alterations to his style in order to please fans. Watch his fight with Ndou where he stood toe to toe with a dangerous puncher,same with Sosa,Gatti etc etc. They are not the greatest names but he could easily have stunk the joint out in those fights and ran to a UD like he did v Baldo,He didn't. I think he'll look to impress in this fight,well I would like to think he wants to because the world is waiting and will be watching.

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