Pac Man v Valero in October

[Big Jack]

Tips please.

I still favour Pac man even though Valero is awesome.

AMERICAN trainer Freddie Roach said Filipino ring idol Manny Pacquiao may fight undefeated Venezuelan Edwin Valero, who has a record of 22 knockouts in 22 wins, possibly in Macau, in October

http://www.sportsnut.com.au/category.php?intid=7

[bzkfn]

This just suggests he is scared of Marquez. He won't make more money fighting Valero, and the WBA is not a bigger belt than the WBC, also Marquez is the man to beat. While I think this is an exciting fight, I don't understand Pac's thinking.

[Big Jack]

Valero does have an incredible record so I guess it can be built up as the battle of the hurricanes.

[bzkfn]

Valero does have an incredible record so I guess it can be built up as the battle of the hurricanes.

He does. I'm a big Valero fan, and part of me thinks the fight would be better to watch...but Marquez is the man to beat.

[Julius Rain]

This just suggests he is scared of Marquez. He won't make more money fighting Valero, and the WBA is not a bigger belt than the WBC, also Marquez is the man to beat. While I think this is an exciting fight, I don't understand Pac's thinking.

you got it twisted fanboy :P jmm pulled another one on pac, "I want more then I'm getting so I don't have to go through hell fighting pacman"....and jmm is not the man to beat the pacman is the man to beat....jmm needs pac more then pac needs him.

I've been waiting on pac and jmm rematch but fwock jmm now him and his stupid camp, lets go pac vs valero is going to be the shyt.

forget jmm bring in valero....pac vs valero is going to give fans a real treat but I"m afraid it may last 2 sec while these two give us a night to remember...jmm is prolly going to get another chris john to fight and lose to with like $30,000 purse this time somewhere in afganistan

[:::PSL:::]

This just suggests he is scared of Marquez. He won't make more money fighting Valero, and the WBA is not a bigger belt than the WBC, also Marquez is the man to beat. While I think this is an exciting fight, I don't understand Pac's thinking.

It has nothing to do of who's getting scared and who's not. 75% for JMM is a big insult for Pac. Pac attracts more crowd than anybody @ 130 division.

$5 mil. is already guaranteed for Pac against Valero - and tax free coz they'll be fighting in Macau. I would say that's much better money for Pac.

Plus, if Pac beats JMM in their rematch (which I'm 100% sure he will), JMM fans and most critics will just say... "Pac defeated another old worn-out, washed-up fighter".

Pac has gotten better and stronger after that draw with JMM. And JMM got a little rusty, slow, and very vulnerable to get hit. He is an easy prey for Pac. Capturing that WBC belt is like snatching a lollipop from a 3 year old girl.

I hope both JMM and Pac handlers would agree on 50/50 for fans sake.

Edwin Valero is difinitely a big threat for Pac. If Valero fails to KO Pac in first 3 rounds, then he'll be in deep sh!t.

[Sic103]

Valero does have an incredible record so I guess it can be built up as the battle of the hurricanes.

Hmm I'm not sure about that. Yeah, he's got like 22 wins all via KO but most of it were in Venezuela and against real crappy oposicion. IMO I think only his last what... 3-4 fights should be consired.

Hell, I'm from Venezuela... I've always cheered for the Boricua fighters, the mexican fighters etc now I finally got somone from my own to cheer for. But let's be real, Valero won't last 2 rounds. He's too green, wild punches, horrible d. Sure he's got some pop in his fists... but how's that going to help him if he's going to be eating leather between his wild punches.

So God damn it.... let's see a Pac Man vs Marquez or Pac vs Barrera........

Don't get me wrong. I'll definetely be there with my Venezuelan flag, chug down a few beers while inhaling a bacon and chesse burger in between and get as rowdy as possible for those couple of rounds before he get's KO'ed . Venezuela presente!

[:::PSL:::]

Valero does have an incredible record so I guess it can be built up as the battle of the hurricanes.

Hmm I'm not sure about that. Yeah, he's got like 22 wins all via KO but most of it were in Venezuela and against real crappy oposicion. IMO I think only his last what... 3-4 fights should be consired.

Hell, I'm from Venezuela... I've always cheered for the Boricua fighters, the mexican fighters etc now I finally got somone from my own to cheer for. But let's be real, Valero won't last 2 rounds. He's too green, wild punches, horrible d. Sure he's got some pop in his fists... but how's that going to help him if he's going to be eating leather between his wild punches.

So God damn it.... let's see a Pac Man vs Marquez or Pac vs Barrera........

Don't get me wrong. I'll definetely be there with my Venezuelan flag, chug down a few beers while inhaling a bacon and chesse burger in between and get as rowdy as possible for those couple of rounds before he get's KO'ed . Venezuela presente!

I think your Venenzuelan pride (Valero) is ripe and ready for pickin'.

He must face Pac. He must be tested. Let's watch him shock the world like Pac did.

If Valero wants repect, then he should earn it by beating Pac.

[mnmc10]

This just suggests he is scared of Marquez. He won't make more money fighting Valero, and the WBA is not a bigger belt than the WBC, also Marquez is the man to beat. While I think this is an exciting fight, I don't understand Pac's thinking.

oh yes he will! i watched manny a couple of days back it came out from his mouth that JMM wanted 75/25 split! ofcourse he wont take it pac will offer him the price instead... so if this valero pac fight turns into reality then it only cemented the fact the JMM ducked PAC for the SECOND time!

[headson]

valero good but he never face no one like pac
valero probaly be a star but he cant fight in the u.s.
but someone gonna get knock out

[:::PSL:::]

This just suggests he is scared of Marquez. He won't make more money fighting Valero, and the WBA is not a bigger belt than the WBC, also Marquez is the man to beat. While I think this is an exciting fight, I don't understand Pac's thinking.

oh yes he will! i watched manny a couple of days back it came out from his mouth that JMM wanted 75/25 split! ofcourse he wont take it pac will offer him the price instead... so if this valero pac fight turns into reality then it only cemented the fact the JMM ducked PAC for the SECOND time!

Exactly!

[:::PSL:::]

valero good but he never face no one like pac
valero probaly be a star but he cant fight in the u.s.
but someone gonna get knock out

I hear yah

Valero doesn’t have any tactical skills,

Valero has Lack of experience fighting full 12 rounds,

Valero doesn’t experience to be hit by a numerous hard punches from future hall of famers,

Valero doesn’t know how it feels to be hit by a sladgehammering left of manny

Valero Doesn’t experience to fight those defensive and counterpunchers,

Valero doesn’t have experience to be cut, while fighting full 12 rounds.

Valero doesn't experience exchanging blow, and trading hard punches.

Valero doesn't have thousands of fans chanting his name if full packed arena.

Valero is just a brawler, while Pac is a HIGHLY SKILLED brawler

[Big Jack]

Amazing poster Pac.
Once again goes tgo show that the guys on this sight are the most dedicated fight fans in the world.
Great to share your views and opinions.

[CFH]

God I hope the fight is staged in Vancouver. Though I guess it sounds like they're leaning towards Macau.

[Julius Rain]

This just suggests he is scared of Marquez. He won't make more money fighting Valero, and the WBA is not a bigger belt than the WBC, also Marquez is the man to beat. While I think this is an exciting fight, I don't understand Pac's thinking.

oh yes he will! i watched manny a couple of days back it came out from his mouth that JMM wanted 75/25 split! ofcourse he wont take it pac will offer him the price instead... so if this valero pac fight turns into reality then it only cemented the fact the JMM ducked PAC for the SECOND time!

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