Dream Match up KELLY PAVLIK vs LIBARDO ANDRADE

[tempostile]

[img width=700 height=233]http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n256/tempo1234/victory_02_482x316-1.jpg[/img] all i know is someone is going to get KTFO..who u think will last?

[ICB]

Andrade has no defence he would be KTFO in middle rounds.

[El Gamo]

Andrade has no defence he would be KTFO in middle rounds.

That;s a bit premature. We have yet to see Kelly at 168 so it's no so easy to say. Librado took Kessler's bombs for 12 rounds and Mikkel is no slouch in the power department. This would be a cracking fight!!!! I'd have to wait to see Kelly at 168 but he would be favourite.

[ICB]

Andrade has no defence he would be KTFO in middle rounds.

That;s a bit premature. We have yet to see Kelly at 168 so it's no so easy to say. Librado took Kessler's bombs for 12 rounds and Mikkel is no slouch in the power department. This would be a cracking fight!!!! I'd have to wait to see Kelly at 168 but he would be favourite.

I doubt Pavlik will have a hard time making 168 and Kessler is a decent puncher not devasting puncher like Pavlik.

[Majesty]

Andrade has no defence he would be KTFO in middle rounds.

Alright you're REALLY overrating Pavlik now.

I can't believe that. I know you're better then that, Adrande walked through EVERYTHING Mikkel Kessler threw and didn't even get wobbled, but Pavlik who would have to move up in weight would stop him in the middle rounds

I think Pavlik left TOO MUCH of an impression on you last night

[ICB]

Andrade has no defence he would be KTFO in middle rounds.

Alright you're REALLY overrating Pavlik now.

I can't believe that. I know you're better then that, Adrande walked through EVERYTHING Mikkel Kessler threw and didn't even get wobbled, but Pavlik who would have to move up in weight would stop him in the middle rounds

I think Pavlik left TOO MUCH of an impression on you last night

Kessler is not a devasting puncher he is a decent puncher he threw everything but the kitchen sink at Andrade and couldn't even move him Pavlik only needs one punch and thats it your out i have never considered Kessler a devasting puncher Pavlik is a big Middleweight and will make 168 easy as pie Andrade blocks punches with his face you don't really think he could go 12 rounds getting hit with Pavlik's best shots do you ??

And yes Pavlik did impress me and a fighter like Andrade who has no defence and comes right for you would be a perfect opponent for Pavlik.

[Violent Demise]

Andrade has no defence he would be KTFO in middle rounds.

Alright you're REALLY overrating Pavlik now.

I can't believe that. I know you're better then that, Adrande walked through EVERYTHING Mikkel Kessler threw and didn't even get wobbled, but Pavlik who would have to move up in weight would stop him in the middle rounds

I think Pavlik left TOO MUCH of an impression on you last night

Kessler is not a devasting puncher he is a decent puncher he threw everything but the kitchen sink at Andrade and couldn't even move him Pavlik only needs one punch and thats it your out i have never considered Kessler a devasting puncher Pavlik is a big Middleweight and will make 168 easy as pie Andrade blocks punches with his face you don't really think he could go 12 rounds getting hit with Pavlik's best shots do you ??

And yes Pavlik did impress me and a fighter like Andrade who has no defence and comes right for you would be a perfect opponent for Pavlik.

Yes I agree Andrade's defense is poor. But I think he can take Pavlik shots for a couple of rounds. Taylor and Miranda did. And who knows what happens in those rounds? Keep in mind Andrade posses a big punch himself. And Pavlik is pretty easy to hit. Not to mention his chin is not made of iron. So Andrade scoring a knock out is not out of the question. Pavlik can make 168. But can he take 168 pounders punch?

[ICB]

Andrade has no defence he would be KTFO in middle rounds.

Alright you're REALLY overrating Pavlik now.

I can't believe that. I know you're better then that, Adrande walked through EVERYTHING Mikkel Kessler threw and didn't even get wobbled, but Pavlik who would have to move up in weight would stop him in the middle rounds

I think Pavlik left TOO MUCH of an impression on you last night

Kessler is not a devasting puncher he is a decent puncher he threw everything but the kitchen sink at Andrade and couldn't even move him Pavlik only needs one punch and thats it your out i have never considered Kessler a devasting puncher Pavlik is a big Middleweight and will make 168 easy as pie Andrade blocks punches with his face you don't really think he could go 12 rounds getting hit with Pavlik's best shots do you ??

And yes Pavlik did impress me and a fighter like Andrade who has no defence and comes right for you would be a perfect opponent for Pavlik.

Yes I agree Andrade's defense is poor. But I think he can take Pavlik shots for a couple of rounds. Taylor and Miranda did. And who knows what happens in those rounds? Keep in mind Andrade posses a big punch himself. And Pavlik is pretty easy to hit. Not to mention his chin is not made of iron. So Andrade scoring a knock out is not out of the question. Pavlik can make 168. But can he take 168 pounders punch?

I actually didn't think much of Andrade when i see him he has no defense he isn't even a decent boxer because he has no real skills yes he has power and a good chin but what else ?? Pavlik has a good defense except for taunting Taylor and getting stupid in round 2 and getting caught he blocked alot of Taylor's punches he has amazing power good chin and great jab and imo is much better fighter than Andrade in every department and as for Miranda and Taylor well they are big Middleweights Miranda was 173 when he fought Pavlik and Pavlik was 171.

[Majesty]

Andrade has no defence he would be KTFO in middle rounds.

Alright you're REALLY overrating Pavlik now.

I can't believe that. I know you're better then that, Adrande walked through EVERYTHING Mikkel Kessler threw and didn't even get wobbled, but Pavlik who would have to move up in weight would stop him in the middle rounds

I think Pavlik left TOO MUCH of an impression on you last night

Kessler is not a devasting puncher he is a decent puncher he threw everything but the kitchen sink at Andrade and couldn't even move him Pavlik only needs one punch and thats it your out i have never considered Kessler a devasting puncher Pavlik is a big Middleweight and will make 168 easy as pie Andrade blocks punches with his face you don't really think he could go 12 rounds getting hit with Pavlik's best shots do you ??

And yes Pavlik did impress me and a fighter like Andrade who has no defence and comes right for you would be a perfect opponent for Pavlik.

What makes you think Pavlik can just one punch out Adrande? Kessler is a very hard punching super middleweight, and lets just say he has enough power to be a one punch knockout artist at 160 and he's knocked out people with one shot too.

Kessler is more polished and a better outside fighter, better fighter in general then Pavlik.

I don't think Pavlik would have the power to stop Adrande, especially at 168, beat him, sure, but not stop him, not in a million years

[ICB]

Andrade has no defence he would be KTFO in middle rounds.

Alright you're REALLY overrating Pavlik now.

I can't believe that. I know you're better then that, Adrande walked through EVERYTHING Mikkel Kessler threw and didn't even get wobbled, but Pavlik who would have to move up in weight would stop him in the middle rounds

I think Pavlik left TOO MUCH of an impression on you last night

Kessler is not a devasting puncher he is a decent puncher he threw everything but the kitchen sink at Andrade and couldn't even move him Pavlik only needs one punch and thats it your out i have never considered Kessler a devasting puncher Pavlik is a big Middleweight and will make 168 easy as pie Andrade blocks punches with his face you don't really think he could go 12 rounds getting hit with Pavlik's best shots do you ??

And yes Pavlik did impress me and a fighter like Andrade who has no defence and comes right for you would be a perfect opponent for Pavlik.

What makes you think Pavlik can just one punch out Adrande? Kessler is a very hard punching super middleweight, and lets just say he has enough power to be a one punch knockout artist at 160 and he's knocked out people with one shot too.

Kessler is more polished and a better outside fighter, better fighter in general then Pavlik.

I don't think Pavlik would have the power to stop Adrande, especially at 168, beat him, sure, but not stop him, not in a million years

I didn't say he would stop him with one punch i said Pavlik has that kind of power.

Just because Andrade went 12 rounds with a decent puncher like Kessler don't mean a thing yes he dominated Andrade but he didn't even move Andrade Kessler is not a big puncher Pavlik can stop even granite chin fighters like McKart like Miranda like Taylor ok lets put it this way if he don't KO Andrade he would make his face such a mess that Andrade's corner would have to throw in the towel.

[Violent Demise]

Andrade has no defence he would be KTFO in middle rounds.

Alright you're REALLY overrating Pavlik now.

I can't believe that. I know you're better then that, Adrande walked through EVERYTHING Mikkel Kessler threw and didn't even get wobbled, but Pavlik who would have to move up in weight would stop him in the middle rounds

I think Pavlik left TOO MUCH of an impression on you last night

Kessler is not a devasting puncher he is a decent puncher he threw everything but the kitchen sink at Andrade and couldn't even move him Pavlik only needs one punch and thats it your out i have never considered Kessler a devasting puncher Pavlik is a big Middleweight and will make 168 easy as pie Andrade blocks punches with his face you don't really think he could go 12 rounds getting hit with Pavlik's best shots do you ??

And yes Pavlik did impress me and a fighter like Andrade who has no defence and comes right for you would be a perfect opponent for Pavlik.

Yes I agree Andrade's defense is poor. But I think he can take Pavlik shots for a couple of rounds. Taylor and Miranda did. And who knows what happens in those rounds? Keep in mind Andrade posses a big punch himself. And Pavlik is pretty easy to hit. Not to mention his chin is not made of iron. So Andrade scoring a knock out is not out of the question. Pavlik can make 168. But can he take 168 pounders punch?

I actually didn't think much of Andrade when i see him he has no defense he isn't even a decent boxer because he has no real skills yes he has power and a good chin but what else ?? Pavlik has a good defense except for taunting Taylor and getting stupid in round 2 and getting caught he blocked alot of Taylor's punches he has amazing power good chin and great jab and imo is much better fighter than Andrade in every department and as for Miranda and Taylor well they are big Middleweights Miranda was 173 when he fought Pavlik and Pavlik was 171.

Andrade is bigger than Miranda and Taylor. He's the same size as Pavlik. With a longer reach. And I think he's stronger. Andrade has fought at Light Heavyweight before. I don't see Pavlik being able to back Andrade up as easy as he did Miranda. If I was to grade there defenses, I would give Andrade a D- and Pavlik a C-. Pavlik is not hard to hit at all. He's been down 4 times for a reason. The way i see it is Pavlik ain't the boxing type. He's a knock out type a guy. I don't see him boxing Andrade. I think he'll trade with him. Which is pretty much the only way Andrade can win. It'll come down to whose chin can take the most punishment. Based on there history, it looks like Andrade has the stronger one. He's never been down. Am I saying Andrade wins? I don't know. But he has a hell of a fucking chance

[Taeth]

Andrade has no defence he would be KTFO in middle rounds.

That;s a bit premature. We have yet to see Kelly at 168 so it's no so easy to say. Librado took Kessler's bombs for 12 rounds and Mikkel is no slouch in the power department. This would be a cracking fight!!!! I'd have to wait to see Kelly at 168 but he would be favourite.

I doubt Pavlik will have a hard time making 168 and Kessler is a decent puncher not devasting puncher like Pavlik.

How can you compare their power? Besides Andrado walked right through Kessler's punches, and he hits hard himself... I see him ko'ing Pavlik.

[El Gamo]

I disagree with you here though ICE,lets not over rate Kelly. I think he's more skilled than Andrade but Andrade is bigger and stronger. Your over exagerrating your points because neither you or I or anyone else here has seen Kelly at 168 so its difficult to say anything decisively. Using guys like McKart and Miranda is all good and well but Andrade has proven how tough he is AT 168.

Again,I'd choose Kelly as the favourite BUT NO ONE here can say decisively that he would win until we see him at least once at 168. The only thing I will say is that he is more skilled than Andrade,and I'm a huge Andrade fan.He has a better jab,and straighter shots.It would be a war.

There's too much over exagerrating and under exagerrating here. You guys are just saying some of the things you are because Kelly beat 2 bags of shit out of JT and it's no surprise you all chose JT to win. And ICE,you starting to over hype Kelly.Don't. Wait until you see him at 168 then you can say. And we can wait untila few more weeks and we'll see Andrade fighting again,to see how good he looks.

[ICB]

I disagree with you here though ICE,lets not over rate Kelly. I think he's more skilled than Andrade but Andrade is bigger and stronger. Your over exagerrating your points because neither you or I or anyone else here has seen Kelly at 168 so its difficult to say anything decisively. Using guys like McKart and Miranda is all good and well but Andrade has proven how tough he is AT 168.

Again,I'd choose Kelly as the favourite BUT NO ONE here can say decisively that he would win until we see him at least once at 168. The only thing I will say is that he is more skilled than Andrade,and I'm a huge Andrade fan.He has a better jab,and straighter shots.It would be a war.

There's too much over exagerrating and under exagerrating here. You guys are just saying some of the things you are because Kelly beat 2 bags of S*** out of JT and it's no surprise you all chose JT to win. And ICE,you starting to over hype Kelly.Don't. Wait until you see him at 168 then you can say. And we can wait untila few more weeks and we'll see Andrade fighting again,to see how good he looks.

He was 171 when he fought Miranda.


And ICE,you starting to over hype Kelly.Don't. Wait until you see him at 168 then you can say. And we can wait untila few more weeks and we'll see Andrade fighting again,to see how good he looks.

Im not overhyping Pavlik its just i don't see anything much in Andrade except he has a good chin.

[ICB]

Andrade has no defence he would be KTFO in middle rounds.

That;s a bit premature. We have yet to see Kelly at 168 so it's no so easy to say. Librado took Kessler's bombs for 12 rounds and Mikkel is no slouch in the power department. This would be a cracking fight!!!! I'd have to wait to see Kelly at 168 but he would be favourite.

I doubt Pavlik will have a hard time making 168 and Kessler is a decent puncher not devasting puncher like Pavlik.

How can you compare their power? Besides Andrado walked right through Kessler's punches, and he hits hard himself... I see him ko'ing Pavlik.

I have seen plenty of Kessler's fights and Kessler is not a devasting puncher and never has been.