My British P4P list

[superheavyrhun]

OK, so I know that this is a topic which pops up every now and again, so I thought I'd resurrect another one as we draw to a close of another year's great fights for British boxing. However, I'd love to hear where everyone else rates the Brits, and what you think of this year's crop of champions.

Top 10:
#1 - Joe Calzaghe - Great year, and he gains the recognition that he has desperately wanted, with promises of huge fights next year.
#2 - Ricky Hatton - Fell short against the best fighter in the world imo, but will hopefully come back stronger next year.
#3 - David Haye - Became another British world champion this year, using every ounce of character to come back from the edge.
#4 - Junior Witter - Still living in the shadow of Hatton, but won impressively twice, finishing off both fighters well, once he got going.
#5 - Enzo Maccarinelli - The other Cruiserweight champion. Solid year, but good win v Braithewaite sandwiched by poor opponents.
#6 - Amir Khan - Still a prospect, but putting in good wins and entertaining, though a near disaster against Limond averted.
#7 - Clinton Woods - Injury hampered year, and only one fight against a guy he's already beaten. Should do better next year.
#8 - Colin Lynes - Another light-welterweight continues his rehabilitation, claiming British and Euro titles. Good year.
#9 - John Duddy - Kept busy with five wins over mixed opposition, but improving slowly in level, and interesting 2008 ahead.
#10 - Alex Arthur - Only two fights, claiming and retaining WBO interim belt, but has to show more if to be a creditable world champ.

Honourable mentions:-

Ian Napa- I really wanted to put "dappa" into the list because he has repeatedly proved me wrong, winning and retaining his belt twice at British bantamweight, having challenged bravely for the European title in March. Look forward to more from him next year.

Gavin Rees - Beat a journeyman in April at the Millenium Stadium, then shocked everyone to beat Souleymane Mbaye for the WBA title in a brave and attacking performance. Perhaps not at his best weight at light-welterweight, and will get well tested against Andreas Kotelnik in January on the undercard of the Skelton-Chagaev bout.

Carl Johanneson/Kevin Mitchell - Whoever wins this, if they can back it up with a decent year will definitely be in my top 10 next year, and I fully expect a barnburner.

Jamie Moore - I feel really bad not putting Mooresy into my top 10, because there's no doubt that he has the tools and the potential to fight at European level and possibly above, but failed to capitalise on his impact of 2006, and and awkward bout against Facey did him no favours.

[ICB]

OK, so I know that this is a topic which pops up every now and again, so I thought I'd resurrect another one as we draw to a close of another year's great fights for British boxing. However, I'd love to hear where everyone else rates the Brits, and what you think of this year's crop of champions.

Top 10:
#1 - Joe Calzaghe - Great year, and he gains the recognition that he has desperately wanted, with promises of huge fights next year.
#2 - Ricky Hatton - Fell short against the best fighter in the world imo, but will hopefully come back stronger next year.
#3 - David Haye - Became another British world champion this year, using every ounce of character to come back from the edge.
#4 - Junior Witter - Still living in the shadow of Hatton, but won impressively twice, finishing off both fighters well, once he got going.
#5 - Enzo Maccarinelli - The other Cruiserweight champion. Solid year, but good win v Braithewaite sandwiched by poor opponents.
#6 - Amir Khan - Still a prospect, but putting in good wins and entertaining, though a near disaster against Limond averted.
#7 - Clinton Woods - Injury hampered year, and only one fight against a guy he's already beaten. Should do better next year.
#8 - Colin Lynes - Another light-welterweight continues his rehabilitation, claiming British and Euro titles. Good year.
#9 - John Duddy - Kept busy with five wins over mixed opposition, but improving slowly in level, and interesting 2008 ahead.
#10 - Alex Arthur - Only two fights, claiming and retaining WBO interim belt, but has to show more if to be a creditable world champ.

Honourable mentions:-

Ian Napa- I really wanted to put "dappa" into the list because he has repeatedly proved me wrong, winning and retaining his belt twice at British bantamweight, having challenged bravely for the European title in March. Look forward to more from him next year.

Gavin Rees - Beat a journeyman in April at the Millenium Stadium, then shocked everyone to beat Souleymane Mbaye for the WBA title in a brave and attacking performance. Perhaps not at his best weight at light-welterweight, and will get well tested against Andreas Kotelnik in January on the undercard of the Skelton-Chagaev bout.

Carl Johanneson/Kevin Mitchell - Whoever wins this, if they can back it up with a decent year will definitely be in my top 10 next year, and I fully expect a barnburner.

Jamie Moore - I feel really bad not putting Mooresy into my top 10, because there's no doubt that he has the tools and the potential to fight at European level and possibly above, but failed to capitalise on his impact of 2006, and and awkward bout against Facey did him no favours.

Khan is way too high for my liking Super, but other than that the list looks pretty good CC.

And wheres Carl Froch ??

[Tam Seddon]

Rhun where the fuck is Froch !?

[donnydarkoIRL]

Get Duddy outta there!

[leftylee]

The top 5 is perfect for me.

[superheavyrhun]

Rhun where the F*** is Froch !?

Who? Just kidding mate....I probably ought to have given him an honourable mention, but if he beats Inkin and gets his world shot next year, then I'll probably find a space for him.

[leftylee]

I'd replace Duddy myself with Froch.

[superheavyrhun]

I just feel that Froch's performances this year haven't actually boosted his status, but in fact diminished it somewhat. However, as I said, good year next year and he might spring the lock on my top 5.

[Tam Seddon]

I believe Froch has done a bit more than Ian Napa Rhun 2008 will be an amazing year for the 168 devision and I honestly think Froch will have a good input in it. We will see in goood time...

[superheavyrhun]

You know me Tam, I'm always open to be convinced, but although the manner of wins against Reid and Tatevosyan were reasonably good, they weren't exactly spring chickens, with Tatevosyan having lost two of the three fights before Froch and Reid comebacking for one last swing at glory.

As for Napa, he pushed the European champion hard early in the year, then claimed and defended the British title twice against quality British opposition. If Froch did more fighting and less talking I might be more inclined to promote him into the list.

[ICB]

You know me Tam, I'm always open to be convinced, but although the manner of wins against Reid and Tatevosyan were reasonably good, they weren't exactly spring chickens, with Tatevosyan having lost two of the three fights before Froch and Reid comebacking for one last swing at glory.

As for Napa, he pushed the European champion hard early in the year, then claimed and defended the British title twice against quality British opposition. If Froch did more fighting and less talking I might be more inclined to promote him into the list.

You know me Tam, I'm always open to be convinced, but although the manner of wins against Reid and Tatevosyan were reasonably good, they weren't exactly spring chickens, with Tatevosyan having lost two of the three fights before Froch and Reid comebacking for one last swing at glory.

You say that but wasn't Earl coming off a bad beating as well ?? and didn't a lot of people consider him *past it* yet you have Khan on the list and not Froch.

[leftylee]

You know me Tam, I'm always open to be convinced, but although the manner of wins against Reid and Tatevosyan were reasonably good, they weren't exactly spring chickens, with Tatevosyan having lost two of the three fights before Froch and Reid comebacking for one last swing at glory.

As for Napa, he pushed the European champion hard early in the year, then claimed and defended the British title twice against quality British opposition. If Froch did more fighting and less talking I might be more inclined to promote him into the list.

You know me Tam, I'm always open to be convinced, but although the manner of wins against Reid and Tatevosyan were reasonably good, they weren't exactly spring chickens, with Tatevosyan having lost two of the three fights before Froch and Reid comebacking for one last swing at glory.

You say that but wasn't Earl coming off a bad beating as well ?? and didn't a lot of people consider him *past it* yet you have Khan on the list and not Froch.

Earl was more of a threat than Reid and Tatevosyan put together ICB. Earl was considered a dangerous opponent for khan after dropping Katsidis and was a former WBU, British and Commenwealth champion and with Khan's questionable chin people thought Earl was the person to exploit Khan and even Katsidis said if Earl fights like he did against me he will beat Khan but he just blasted him out in 72 seconds and done maybe worse to Earl in terms of damage than what Katsidis done in 5 rounds, when Katsidis landed flush shots he could'nt KO him in the ring his corner had to pull him Earl out. Reid was coming off a layoff of just one 8 rounder in 2 years against a contender bum while Earl was coming off a 10 month layoff. Big Differnce bro.

[superheavyrhun]

You know me Tam, I'm always open to be convinced, but although the manner of wins against Reid and Tatevosyan were reasonably good, they weren't exactly spring chickens, with Tatevosyan having lost two of the three fights before Froch and Reid comebacking for one last swing at glory.

As for Napa, he pushed the European champion hard early in the year, then claimed and defended the British title twice against quality British opposition. If Froch did more fighting and less talking I might be more inclined to promote him into the list.

You know me Tam, I'm always open to be convinced, but although the manner of wins against Reid and Tatevosyan were reasonably good, they weren't exactly spring chickens, with Tatevosyan having lost two of the three fights before Froch and Reid comebacking for one last swing at glory.

You say that but wasn't Earl coming off a bad beating as well ?? and didn't a lot of people consider him *past it* yet you have Khan on the list and not Froch.

Earl was more of a threat than Reid and Tatevosyan put together ICB. Earl was considered a dangerous opponent for khan after dropping Katsidis and was a former WBU, British and Commenwealth champion and with Khan's questionable chin people thought Earl was the person to exploit Khan and even Katsidis said if Earl fights like he did against me he will beat Khan but he just blasted him out in 72 seconds and done maybe worse to Earl in terms of damage than what Katsidis done in 5 rounds, when Katsidis landed flush shots he could'nt KO him in the ring his corner had to pull him Earl out. Reid was coming off a layoff of just one 8 rounder in 2 years against a contender bum while Earl was coming off a 10 month layoff. Big Differnce bro.

Yup, I'm with you lee on this one. . Earl had been involved in FOTY contender against Katsidis who is now a player on the world stage at his weight, whilst Tatevosyan's surprise turnover of Rudy Markussen wasn't really on the same scale at all. As for Reid, like lee says the layoff for Reid was a big difference. He'd been retired whilst Earl had been working hard to rebuild after an excellent fight and hard-man performance against Katsidis.

Another point I'd also like to add is that Khan has been jumping up the rankings and progressing a lot this year, whilst Froch has really stagnated a bit and slipped in my estimations because of his failure to either keep busy or get big fights. Two fights against that quality opposition just isn't enough at this stage for Froch.

[Tam Seddon]

You know me Tam, I'm always open to be convinced, but although the manner of wins against Reid and Tatevosyan were reasonably good, they weren't exactly spring chickens, with Tatevosyan having lost two of the three fights before Froch and Reid comebacking for one last swing at glory.

As for Napa, he pushed the European champion hard early in the year, then claimed and defended the British title twice against quality British opposition. If Froch did more fighting and less talking I might be more inclined to promote him into the list.

You know me Tam, I'm always open to be convinced, but although the manner of wins against Reid and Tatevosyan were reasonably good, they weren't exactly spring chickens, with Tatevosyan having lost two of the three fights before Froch and Reid comebacking for one last swing at glory.

You say that but wasn't Earl coming off a bad beating as well ?? and didn't a lot of people consider him *past it* yet you have Khan on the list and not Froch.

Earl was more of a threat than Reid and Tatevosyan put together ICB. Earl was considered a dangerous opponent for khan after dropping Katsidis and was a former WBU, British and Commenwealth champion and with Khan's questionable chin people thought Earl was the person to exploit Khan and even Katsidis said if Earl fights like he did against me he will beat Khan but he just blasted him out in 72 seconds and done maybe worse to Earl in terms of damage than what Katsidis done in 5 rounds, when Katsidis landed flush shots he could'nt KO him in the ring his corner had to pull him Earl out. Reid was coming off a layoff of just one 8 rounder in 2 years against a contender bum while Earl was coming off a 10 month layoff. Big Differnce bro.

leftlylee for once we disagree ! Reid and Tatevosyan has names themselves and for froch to get rid of them both in 7 rounds is a good performance. Im giving my favrourite fighter more on the benefit here but its not always about knocking the fighter out as quick as possible, if you can do it in style like Froch did against Reid and Tate he still gets the thumbs up. Thats why i dont no why Froch hasnt even got a slight mention in your list Rhun

[leftylee]

You know me Tam, I'm always open to be convinced, but although the manner of wins against Reid and Tatevosyan were reasonably good, they weren't exactly spring chickens, with Tatevosyan having lost two of the three fights before Froch and Reid comebacking for one last swing at glory.

As for Napa, he pushed the European champion hard early in the year, then claimed and defended the British title twice against quality British opposition. If Froch did more fighting and less talking I might be more inclined to promote him into the list.

You know me Tam, I'm always open to be convinced, but although the manner of wins against Reid and Tatevosyan were reasonably good, they weren't exactly spring chickens, with Tatevosyan having lost two of the three fights before Froch and Reid comebacking for one last swing at glory.

You say that but wasn't Earl coming off a bad beating as well ?? and didn't a lot of people consider him *past it* yet you have Khan on the list and not Froch.

Earl was more of a threat than Reid and Tatevosyan put together ICB. Earl was considered a dangerous opponent for khan after dropping Katsidis and was a former WBU, British and Commenwealth champion and with Khan's questionable chin people thought Earl was the person to exploit Khan and even Katsidis said if Earl fights like he did against me he will beat Khan but he just blasted him out in 72 seconds and done maybe worse to Earl in terms of damage than what Katsidis done in 5 rounds, when Katsidis landed flush shots he could'nt KO him in the ring his corner had to pull him Earl out. Reid was coming off a layoff of just one 8 rounder in 2 years against a contender bum while Earl was coming off a 10 month layoff. Big Differnce bro.

leftlylee for once we disagree ! Reid and Tatevosyan has names themselves and for froch to get rid of them both in 7 rounds is a good performance. Im giving my favrourite fighter more on the benefit here but its not always about knocking the fighter out as quick as possible, if you can do it in style like Froch did against Reid and Tate he still gets the thumbs up. Thats why i dont no why Froch hasnt even got a slight mention in your list Rhun

Talk about style in KO'ing Tam son look what Khan did to Earl one more time and it was worse than what Froch did to no-hoper Tatevosyan and gay porn modeler Reid put together.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cL2Sz__jw4

You know what I'm talking about Tam. Froch was maybe good but Khan was EXPLOSIVE.