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    Did Ring Magazine Get It Wrong? The 2007 Fighter Of The Year

    After watching the video below, I think Ring Magazine did get it wrong.
    Even Miguel Cotto should have been more deserving than Floyd Mayweather Jr., but Pavlik was the best candidate IMO and in many other peoples opinion too.



    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QJwtmv86x8

    youtube.com/watch?v=8QJwtmv86x8

    The 2007 Fighter Of The Year - Did Ring Magazine Get It Wrong?


    30.12.07 - by James Slater: I'm not a guy to argue with the self proclaimed "Bible of Boxing." At least not usually. But this year, when it comes to the Ring magazine's selection for fighter of the year award, I do find myself thinking they got it wrong. As most fans will be aware, Ring chose "Pretty Boy" Floyd Mayweather as the fighter of the year for the last 12 months, and not Kelly Pavlik - a fighter many felt would get the vote. But while Mayweather is undeniably the best right now, pound-for-pound, did he achieve more ($ dollars pocketed aside) than "The Ghost" this year? I don't think so..

    Sure, Mayweather beat the excellent duo that was Oscar De La Hoya and the unbeaten Ricky Hatton, but then Floyd was expected to emerge triumphant in those bouts, wasn't he? What about Pavlik, though? Kelly was no expert's overwhelming favourite going into his superb KO win over unbeaten middleweight king Jermain Taylor, nor was the man from Youngstown a no-brainer of a winner approaching his fight with the dangerous Edison Miranda.

    But Pavlik did win, in so doing proving that he is not afraid of taking on an opponent that is capable of taking away his unbeaten record. Pavlik also gave the fans some tremendous action. Should he then, have been rewarded with the fighter of the year award from boxing's most respected publication? For what it's worth, I think he should have been. No-one is saying middleweight Pavlik is an all-round better fighter than Floyd Mayweather, it's just that on terms of breakthrough impact, odds-defying wins and battling through adversity, Kelly Pavlik more than distinguished himself in 2007. Getting up off the canvas, taking some serious bombs, capturing a world title AND thrilling boxing fans while doing it was surely enough for 25-year-old Kelly to have gotten what a lot of us thought he would have done a month or so back.

    Yes, Mayweather looked good, perhaps better than ever, when stopping the brave Hatton, but let's not forget that Ricky is really a light-welterweight. Pavlik, on the other hand, defeated genuine, if not actually massive (Miranda) and fully-fledged middleweights. In short, Kelly picked on no-one less than his own size. And with regards to Floyd's close win over De La Hoya. Yes, Oscar is an all-time great, but a past his best future Hall of Famer, surely? Pavlik, by comparison, met fighters at their absolute peak - with both Jermain Taylor and Edison Miranda still very much in the title picture as we speak.

    Let's be clear, Pavlik did everything the hard way in 2007. After getting past the big-punching Jose Luis Zertuche in January (KO in a fight that he was assured going in was a final eliminator for the WBC 160 pound title, the middleweight contender locked horns with the equally lethal Miranda in May and won that too (TKO7). Finally getting his well deserved title shot this past September, after having earned it, in effect, TWICE - and without complaint at that - Pavlik got off the floor to become the first man to beat the highly regarded Taylor.

    There is little doubt in my mind; in terms of impact made, odds-defying wins, crowd-pleasing performances AND a take-on-all-comers attitude, Kelly "The Ghost" Pavlik was 2007's real fighter of the year. Despite what boxing's bible said.

    http://www.eastsideboxing.com/news.php?p=13845&more=1

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    Default Re: Did Ring Magazine Get It Wrong? The 2007 Fighter Of The Year

    Nope.............



    They got it 100% right. Mayweather vs. Delahoya was waay too big, and Mayweather proved all the critics who said that he was "boring, ran too much, couldn't knock anybody out, etc. etc.," wrong in the Hatton fight.


    He got his 5th weight class title from Oscar Delahoya (who was right around the same age as Mosley when he fought Cotto), not some slouch. Then he went on to dominate Ricky Hatton to prove that he truly is the best from 154 on down.

    Pavlik beat a prospect (admittedly a fight that I thought Miranda would win) and beat Jermain in a great fight. Keep in mind that this is the same Jermain Taylor that many (myself included) thought lost his fight against Cory Spinks not too long before the Pavlik fight.

    As for Cotto................. I gave him some credit for beating Judah, but this was a post Mayweather Judah and Mayweather has a tendency to ruin his opponents. Cotto vs. Mosley was great, but I don't give Cotto any more credit for beating Mosley than Mayweather for beating Oscar. Perhaps even less credit for Cotto being that Mayweather went up yet another weight class to fight Oscar, where as Cotto stayed within his comfort zone for Mosley.


    Ring Magazine did a great job in this year's fighter of the year award.

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    Default Re: Did Ring Magazine Get It Wrong? The 2007 Fighter Of The Year

    Nah...Floyd was the fighter of the year, IWHO.

    I liked Pavlik vs Taylor as fight of the year though.

    You just have too much hate on you for industrial soap to wash off.

    Deal.



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    Quote Originally Posted by wacko3205
    Nah...Floyd was the fighter of the year, IWHO.

    I liked Pavlik vs Taylor as fight of the year though.

    You just have too much hate on you for industrial soap to wash off.

    Deal.



    Happy New Years, slut.
    I think the hate would come off faster off me than the blind LUST stank some of you are wearing.

    Getting a questionable split decision over an OLD ODLH and beating a midget with HELP from Cortez, are not sufficient enough accomplishments from a so called pound for pound king to warrant such a prestigious award such as fighter of the year.
    I would give Floyd "Defensive fighter of the year" if anything.

    All I can say is: Stop wearing Floyd JockStrap Cologne because it impares your judgement something awful.


    How can you have a fighter of the year award when you don't even have any FIGHT of the year bouts?

    LMAO!

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    Default Re: Did Ring Magazine Get It Wrong? The 2007 Fighter Of The Year

    Quote Originally Posted by Floyd_Fears_Cotto
    Quote Originally Posted by wacko3205
    Nah...Floyd was the fighter of the year, IWHO.

    I liked Pavlik vs Taylor as fight of the year though.

    You just have too much hate on you for industrial soap to wash off.

    Deal.



    Happy New Years, slut.
    I think the hate would come off faster off me than the blind LUST stank some of you are wearing.

    Getting a questionable split decision over an OLD ODLH and beating a midget with HELP from Cortez, are not sufficient enough accomplishments from a so called pound for pound king to warrant such a prestigious award such as fighter of the year.
    I would give Floyd "Defensive fighter of the year" if anything.

    All I can say is: Stop wearing Floyd JockStrap Cologne because it impares your judgement something awful.


    How can you have a fighter of the year award when you don't even have any FIGHT of the year bouts?

    LMAO!
    Here in Vegas it will be 2008 in 45 minutes Danny, it's the new year trade the hater tag in for a new one, by the way Pavlik should have been fighter of the year with Floyd second.

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    Default Re: Did Ring Magazine Get It Wrong? The 2007 Fighter Of The Year

    I think Its pretty accurate with mayweatter as # 1.As much as I only watch his fights with the anticipation of a bug hitting the windsheild...You cannot with reason deny his talent and all over Ability.Trust me I cant stand the mouth of self-convincing king midas Mayweather but He Is the Fighter of 07'.Top notch ring generalship and streak
    Lets not forget the Diva DLH & Floyds apparent Closeness in promotion.

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    Default Re: Did Ring Magazine Get It Wrong? The 2007 Fighter Of The Year

    All due respect to Pavlik ... just because his win was considered an upset does not make him more a candidate for boxer of the year than Mayweather, whose wins were "expected." The logic doesn't persuade.

    I think they got it right. Floyd earned and deserves the respect.

    When I say he earned it, I mean he earned it. No nut-huggin here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NuthaPug
    All due respect to Pavlik ... just because his win was considered an upset does not make him more a candidate for boxer of the year than Mayweather, whose wins were "expected." The logic doesn't persuade.

    I think they got it right. Floyd earned and deserves the respect.

    When I say he earned it, I mean he earned it. No nut-huggin here.
    It's not just what Pavlik did, it's how he did it. He destroyed all three of his opponents.
    He knocked all 3 fighters the phuk out, put them to sleep even. No one expected this.

    Too many people expected Floyd to beat an OLD man and a midget. He did nothing extraordinary. The old man he supposedly beat, came out of that farce OOOPS I mean fight..unscaved.
    He beat a midget with help from the ref who took Ricky out of his game and Floyd Ducked below the waist line <----ILLEGAL as phuk... over and over again and then just caught the midget running at him due to frustration. I was not impressed and neither were a lot of people.

    Now that ODLH owns the ring mag, It can not be trusted.



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    Default Re: Did Ring Magazine Get It Wrong? The 2007 Fighter Of The Year

    didnt golden boy productions buy ring magazine, and werent we expecting big changes in favor of goldenboy
    flloyd fought all fights produced by golden boy

    i give fllloyd credit the ko of hatton was awesome but the fight aganist odlh was not so special.


    it should of went to pavlik
    mind over speed and power

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    Default Re: Did Ring Magazine Get It Wrong? The 2007 Fighter Of The Year

    people slate floyd for not fighting someone his own size in hatton but DO NOT give him half the credit he deserves for fighting sumone bigger than him in de la hoya

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    Default Re: Did Ring Magazine Get It Wrong? The 2007 Fighter Of The Year

    They got it wrong. Mayweather has 2 good wins but none relevant to his rankings as a 147 pounder and he was heavy favourite in both.Or at least expected to win.

    Pavlik went into his fights v a then thought of murderous punching Miranda,who was seen as THE dangerman and HOT favourite and Kelly ripped him to shreds and smashed his myth. Now Miranda is "1dimensional" and"can't fight going backwards" yet NO-ONE said that before the Kelly fight. Then he fights the LINEAR AND TRUE 160 pound champ who had 3 close fights with 2 Hall of Famers and made them both look bad and Kelly KTFO him out.2 HUGE,shock wins,earning him the lineal title. THAT is FOTY for me. I'd have Mayweather joint second with Cotto at best.

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    Default Re: Did Ring Magazine Get It Wrong? The 2007 Fighter Of The Year

    Quote Originally Posted by Floyd_Fears_Cotto

    Did Ring Magazine Get It Wrong? The 2007 Fighter Of The Year

    After watching the video below, I think Ring Magazine did get it wrong.
    Even Miguel Cotto should have been more deserving than Floyd Mayweather Jr., but Pavlik was the best candidate IMO and in many other peoples opinion too.



    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QJwtmv86x8

    youtube.com/watch?v=8QJwtmv86x8

    The 2007 Fighter Of The Year - Did Ring Magazine Get It Wrong?


    30.12.07 - by James Slater: I'm not a guy to argue with the self proclaimed "Bible of Boxing." At least not usually. But this year, when it comes to the Ring magazine's selection for fighter of the year award, I do find myself thinking they got it wrong. As most fans will be aware, Ring chose "Pretty Boy" Floyd Mayweather as the fighter of the year for the last 12 months, and not Kelly Pavlik - a fighter many felt would get the vote. But while Mayweather is undeniably the best right now, pound-for-pound, did he achieve more ($ dollars pocketed aside) than "The Ghost" this year? I don't think so..

    Sure, Mayweather beat the excellent duo that was Oscar De La Hoya and the unbeaten Ricky Hatton, but then Floyd was expected to emerge triumphant in those bouts, wasn't he? What about Pavlik, though? Kelly was no expert's overwhelming favourite going into his superb KO win over unbeaten middleweight king Jermain Taylor, nor was the man from Youngstown a no-brainer of a winner approaching his fight with the dangerous Edison Miranda.

    But Pavlik did win, in so doing proving that he is not afraid of taking on an opponent that is capable of taking away his unbeaten record. Pavlik also gave the fans some tremendous action. Should he then, have been rewarded with the fighter of the year award from boxing's most respected publication? For what it's worth, I think he should have been. No-one is saying middleweight Pavlik is an all-round better fighter than Floyd Mayweather, it's just that on terms of breakthrough impact, odds-defying wins and battling through adversity, Kelly Pavlik more than distinguished himself in 2007. Getting up off the canvas, taking some serious bombs, capturing a world title AND thrilling boxing fans while doing it was surely enough for 25-year-old Kelly to have gotten what a lot of us thought he would have done a month or so back.

    Yes, Mayweather looked good, perhaps better than ever, when stopping the brave Hatton, but let's not forget that Ricky is really a light-welterweight. Pavlik, on the other hand, defeated genuine, if not actually massive (Miranda) and fully-fledged middleweights. In short, Kelly picked on no-one less than his own size. And with regards to Floyd's close win over De La Hoya. Yes, Oscar is an all-time great, but a past his best future Hall of Famer, surely? Pavlik, by comparison, met fighters at their absolute peak - with both Jermain Taylor and Edison Miranda still very much in the title picture as we speak.

    Let's be clear, Pavlik did everything the hard way in 2007. After getting past the big-punching Jose Luis Zertuche in January (KO in a fight that he was assured going in was a final eliminator for the WBC 160 pound title, the middleweight contender locked horns with the equally lethal Miranda in May and won that too (TKO7). Finally getting his well deserved title shot this past September, after having earned it, in effect, TWICE - and without complaint at that - Pavlik got off the floor to become the first man to beat the highly regarded Taylor.

    There is little doubt in my mind; in terms of impact made, odds-defying wins, crowd-pleasing performances AND a take-on-all-comers attitude, Kelly "The Ghost" Pavlik was 2007's real fighter of the year. Despite what boxing's bible said.

    http://www.eastsideboxing.com/news.php?p=13845&more=1
    He deserves it. Floyd's been a busy boy this year, you just have a problem with him...

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    Default Re: Did Ring Magazine Get It Wrong? The 2007 Fighter Of The Year

    Floyd deserved it but Pavlik did have a great year perhaps Pavlik or Cotto can get it next year.

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    Default Re: Did Ring Magazine Get It Wrong? The 2007 Fighter Of The Year

    I can imagine the guy's at Ring Mag spent as much time choosing as we will debating.

    Personally I wanted Pavlik to get it.

    But PBF has been part or 2 of the bigest boxing events in years.
    "It wasn't the night of the jab"

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    Default Re: Did Ring Magazine Get It Wrong? The 2007 Fighter Of The Year

    Quote Originally Posted by Floyd_Fears_Cotto
    Quote Originally Posted by wacko3205
    Nah...Floyd was the fighter of the year, IWHO.

    I liked Pavlik vs Taylor as fight of the year though.

    You just have too much hate on you for industrial soap to wash off.

    Deal.



    Happy New Years, slut.
    I think the hate would come off faster off me than the blind LUST stank some of you are wearing.

    Getting a questionable split decision over an OLD ODLH and beating a midget with HELP from Cortez, are not sufficient enough accomplishments from a so called pound for pound king to warrant such a prestigious award such as fighter of the year.
    I would give Floyd "Defensive fighter of the year" if anything.

    All I can say is: Stop wearing Floyd JockStrap Cologne because it impares your judgement something awful.


    How can you have a fighter of the year award when you don't even have any FIGHT of the year bouts?

    LMAO!
    Espn voted Hatton mayweather as fight of the year and it was shortlisted in most other sites awards.

    And another thing what does being the pre fight favourite have to do with measuring an acomplishment? You can't downgrade someone's acheivements just because you thought they would win beforehand. Using that logic the best fighters could never be eligible to win fighter of the year and that is a logical absurdity.

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