I hate to say this but is it time for Wanderlei to retire?

[El Gamo]

This uyg is my favourite fighter of all time and one of the best,most feared and vicious fighters of all time period but I think he's lost it. People can argue he has lost to Hendo,Mirko and Chuck,3 of the best fighters around BUT,it's the manner in which he lost.

Cro COp-manhandled him and beat his ass almost the entire fight. No-one has man handled Wandy this way and most thought no-one ever could. Heck Wandy should have gotten teh points decision v Mark Hunt,another world class K1 striker,who outweighed him by 80 pounds.

Handerson-great fighter but if you told me Henderson was going to KTFO Wandy,I would have laughed at you. Look at how Wanderlei handled him before. Wanderlei has tekn punches from monsters like Fujita, Rampage,Hunt etc. This fight started to show me his punch resistance was dropping.

Liddell-I'm a big Chuck fan,but that was NOT Wanderlei in the fight. Fair is fair,Chuck won,and deserves kudos but Wandleri,from the moment he came out,did not look like himself. Regardless of whether he was winning a fight or losing it,he would always bullrush his opponent,be agressive etc. This fight showed that the fire was gone,the agression.Where were the Thai clinches?The knees? The wild agression? I'm not buying the Chuck nullified it line,guys bigger and stronger than him couldn't nullfiy Wandy.

In conclusion,rather than seeing him fed to the younger 205 pounders, and as much as I'd love to see him prove me wrong,I think Wandy is at the end and should retire before he gets KTFO again. Heck,even after the loss,rather than say he wanted to KTFO Chuck etc,he was perfectly content with the loss and just wanted to give the fans a good fight. Anyone who knows PRIDE,knows Wandy would not have been like that. All the wars,the vale tudo fights have taken their toll,the fire is gone and he needs to retire before he gets real hurt.

[Von Milash]

Personally, I think Wandy is done until he gets a new camp. Those retards training him are killing the guy. It's WAY beyond extreme. All that weight training and shock treatment is getting him nowhere. I say just let the man have a normal training routine and he'll turn it around. A human isn't supposed to go from overheat and exhaustion to a fucking ice bath. That's just stupid. If it's cardio they want, just jump rope like PBF. MMAers spend WAY too much time on strength and size. Chuck on the other hand is a bit scrawny but still gets the job done (most of the time.) Also, Wandy has always tried to make a living at stand-up, but let's be honest, it aint that great. Big looping punches that aim for the fences, no jab, no movement, etc. In the past he's had success because he was vicious and hit harder, but Chuck beat him because Chuck fought far better stand up. He did EVERYTHING right that night. His stand-up was just better and he executed it to a t. Wandy tried to throw form the outside and came up 2" short all night long.