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    Default Does it bother you...

    If your favorite fighter(s) are "hated" on?

    I won't say I've never been annoyed by somebody's comments on some of my favorite fighters (when a guy is accused of ducking somebody when I didn't think there was a good case for it) but overall I don't think it bothers me that bad. I'm not gonna lose any sleep if somebody (PAC fans I'm looking at you) calls Joan Guzman boring.

    Just seems like some get so worked up about it and I'm not sure why?

    BTW I've said some really hateful things about Paulie Malignaggi in the last twenty four hours, I apologize in advance to those that are offended

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    Default Re: Does it bother you...

    I would hope no one would ever call Joan Guzman boring.

    My favorite 2 fighters are Winky Wright and Jeff Lacy. Obviously I can't get to annoyed when people say all the things they say about them otherwise I would spend all my time yelling over the internet at people from all ends of the spectrum who hate on Lacy in particular.

    I just get bothered by stupidity, that's my main thing and thankfully there isn't an abundance of it on here. Doesn't really matter if they are my favorite fighter or a fighter I really like (like Guzman), reading stupid posts bother me whether they are about Lacy or even Calzaghe. I'm not a huge Mayweather fan, especially outside of the ring but the irrational type of hate that Danny G has where someone is so consumed by hate that a fighter can literally do nothing right. That bothers me more then anything.

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    Also, don't worry about Malignaggi he has no fans. Actually I think he has one but it's not because he's Paulie Malignaggi it's because he's from Brooklyn.

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    Default Re: Does it bother you...

    Guzman wasn't boring against Soto. He impressed me for the first time.

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    Default Re: Does it bother you...

    Quote Originally Posted by Pacstraightleft View Post
    Guzman wasn't boring against Soto. He impressed me for the first time.
    It really doesn't take much to find an exciting Guzman fight. All you have to do is just not watch the last 8 rounds against Barrios where he had a hand to protect.

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    Default Re: Does it bother you...

    It annoys me to an extent. People have said Calzaghe (although not really one of my favourite fighters) would lose to Lacy, Kessler and Hopkins, and although I expected the "Hopkins was old" stuff now say Lacy and even Kessler were overrated. That sort of stuff annoys me a bit.

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    I can usually roll with it.What really gets me is how easily some people tear down a fighter they do not care for and in the process tear down alot of there competition,Other fighters.

    Its one thing to find fault with a guy's style,temperament,public displays etc and performance in a fight but I try to refrain from the broad brush slight on alot of there fellow fighters,"He was a bum,He was s!!!,did not show heart" etc

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    I get annoyed when folk look back and say 'yeh but that fighter was shot'

    Examples: Hopkins vs Calzaghe, Tszyu - Hatton

    It sorta takes away from someone's achievements. Especially when nobody was saying they were shot before the fight.

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    Default Re: Does it bother you...

    Quote Originally Posted by amat View Post
    I'm not a huge Mayweather fan, especially outside of the ring but the irrational type of hate that Danny G has where someone is so consumed by hate that a fighter can literally do nothing right. That bothers me more then anything.
    Sorry, but you know nothing of Danny, because if you did, you would not be making an ignorant statement like that.

    To say that he is consumed by hate, is completely ridiculous, and a statement based on utter lack of knowing a person.

    Does Danny dislike Mayweather? Of course he does, so do a lot of other people, including me.

    Does he make a lot of video's and pics to make Mayweather look like an idiot? Of course, so what. Mayweather is an easy target, and so are his fans. Do you not get that he makes those things not out of hate for Mayweather, but just to wind up his fans? Why? Because it works everytime.

    So because he's creative, and likes to have fun baiting Mayweather fans, you are going to label him as someone who is consumed with hate?

    It doesn't bother him when people attack him, but, it does bother me. I don't like it when people attack him personally, just because he has a twisted sense of humor, and likes to have fun and push peoples buttons. Danny is one person that is not consumed by hate at all, and is probably the most forgiving person that I know. He teaches me about forgiveness everyday, because I am a person that holds grudges, and he always tells me to let it go, because it is not worth it.

    Sorry, but that statement really bothers me, because that statement is sooooooo far from the truth of what kind of a person Danny is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ono View Post
    I get annoyed when folk look back and say 'yeh but that fighter was shot'

    Examples: Hopkins vs Calzaghe, Tszyu - Hatton

    It sorta takes away from someone's achievements. Especially when nobody was saying they were shot before the fight.
    That's what I mean, specially with Hatton, I seem to remember about 90% of the forum predicting Tszyu to knock him out in just a few rounds, even the experts said it......and quite rightly too, Tszyu totally hammered Mitchell beforehand. I'm certain no one rated Hatton higher than Mitchell at any point before Hatton beat Tszyu also.

    It was one win that no one can ever take away from him IMO

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diane View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by amat View Post
    I'm not a huge Mayweather fan, especially outside of the ring but the irrational type of hate that Danny G has where someone is so consumed by hate that a fighter can literally do nothing right. That bothers me more then anything.
    Sorry, but you know nothing of Danny, because if you did, you would not be making an ignorant statement like that.

    To say that he is consumed by hate, is completely ridiculous, and a statement based on utter lack of knowing a person.

    Does Danny dislike Mayweather? Of course he does, so do a lot of other people, including me.

    Does he make a lot of video's and pics to make Mayweather look like an idiot? Of course, so what. Mayweather is an easy target, and so are his fans. Do you not get that he makes those things not out of hate for Mayweather, but just to wind up his fans? Why? Because it works everytime.

    So because he's creative, and likes to have fun baiting Mayweather fans, you are going to label him as someone who is consumed with hate?

    It doesn't bother him when people attack him, but, it does bother me. I don't like it when people attack him personally, just because he has a twisted sense of humor, and likes to have fun and push peoples buttons. Danny is one person that is not consumed by hate at all, and is probably the most forgiving person that I know. He teaches me about forgiveness everyday, because I am a person that holds grudges, and he always tells me to let it go, because it is not worth it.

    Sorry, but that statement really bothers me, because that statement is sooooooo far from the truth of what kind of a person Danny is.
    Danny's Floyd posts make my day sometimes, the guy knows how to have a laugh, cracking sense of humour.

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    Default Re: Does it bother you...

    I agree that people tend to become geniuses about a fighter after he loses a fight but as long as they say it before the fight I don't have a problem with it. If you say a guy's underrated or shot before the fight that's one thing. Personally I thought Castillo was past it before Hatton beat him.

    But I didn't say anything about Lacy being overrated and neither did a lot of people. In retrospect he was overrated to some extent, just look at the Kessler, and Hopkins fights and you can see the difference between those guys and Lacy on that night.

    But I agree people do try to tear down other fighters.

    BTW I didn't think Tsyzu was shot (wasn't prime but wasn't shot) and I still don't.

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    I can't say it does. The only time I am bothered is if the person doing the hating is using dumb things like a loss that the fighter suffered way past his best years and that is the whole merit of the argument. If a person brings up valid points on why they dislike him then I can't really be to ruffled about it.

    I do get annoyed when a person refuses to acknowledge a fighters accomplishments. When that happens I just bow out because you can tell it is leading nowhere and is not worth the debate.

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    Eh, don't want to make to much of this. I'm a fan of Danny's videos I go on that boxinghumor site all the time but and I was just citing one example, when he actually posts about Floyd there isn't much objectivity there. And he's done it plenty of times without making a funny video to boot, where he's criticized Floyd for just about everything whether it makes sense or not. And most of it isn't rational, just "F Floyd and if you're a Fraud fan F you too" and like I said that's the type of stuff that does bother me. I don't know him just know him by what he posts on here like everyone else. Hopefully that's the end of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OumaFan View Post
    I agree that people tend to become geniuses about a fighter after he loses a fight but as long as they say it before the fight I don't have a problem with it. If you say a guy's underrated or shot before the fight that's one thing. Personally I thought Castillo was past it before Hatton beat him.

    But I didn't say anything about Lacy being overrated and neither did a lot of people. In retrospect he was overrated to some extent, just look at the Kessler, and Hopkins fights and you can see the difference between those guys and Lacy on that night.

    But I agree people do try to tear down other fighters.

    BTW I didn't think Tsyzu was shot (wasn't prime but wasn't shot) and I still don't.
    Yeh and having that opinion before the fight and sticking it to it afterwards is perfectly acceptable.

    I know a,lot of folk on here who said Castillo was a 50/50 fight and then went on to say hatton only won because Castillo was shot.

    I personally don't think either fighter was shot....nor at their best. I do think that even at their best, Hatton would probably still win.....but i'm a Hatton fan so i suppose i would say that!.

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