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    Default Floyd has the bestresume in boxing.

    I'm not a huge Floyd fan but this comment is linked to an articl I saw in the ring. Floyd has 20 mathces of his 39 against champions no one else in boxing comes close! Why is Floyd called a cherry picker?

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    Default Re: Floyd has the bestresume in boxing.

    His resume from 135 and 130 spectacular, but he's cherrypicked a little since leaving lightweight. He wasted 3 years against weak opposition at 140 and we never saw him become the real champion of that division until he beat Hatton at 147 (IMHO that was a JWW fight). Since coming to WW, he hasn't yet fought a true natural WW other than Baldomir. While Zab may have been linear champion, he is a smallish WW, at least compared to Cotto, Margo, Cintron, Clottey, etc.

    Overall, in spite of cherrypicking since moving up to WW, he still probably has the best resume of any active fighter right now. I can't think of anybody active off the top of my head who has beaten more top quality opponents than Mayweather. We give him flack because we want to see him against the top guys at WW, and he's screwing around with the ODLH rematch and he wasted time in his prime fighting guys like N'Dou, Brussels, and a shot ass Sharmba Mitchell. Even with Chop-Chop, he probably could have made a more interesting fight.

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    Default Re: Floyd has the bestresume in boxing.

    I hate to be the spoiler in all of this but Oscar De La Hoya has the best resume in boxing. Floyd is also known for picking the weakest link in the divisions title holders to accomplish his championship victory. I also do not think Floyd has faced another title holder for a unification bout in his career.

    Floyd Mayweather Jr's best opponent's are Diego Corrales, Jose Luis Castillo and Oscar De La Hoya. His other big champions were

    Zab Judah after Judah lost to Carlos Baldomir
    Arturo Gatti- A shot Arturo Gatti that Oscar beat 4 years earlier and 1 round sooner.
    Demarcus Corley on his down slide.
    Genaro Hernandez- Oscar beat him 3 years earlier and 2 rounds sooner
    Angel Manfredy- No feather in the cap there. A long past his best Jorge Paez and Gatti were his claims to fame.
    Jose Luis Castillo- Everyone knows the first fight was a gift.

    Top names De La Hoya has faced.
    Jimmy Bredahl, Jorge Paez, John John Molina, Rafael Ruelas, Genaro Hernandez (Before Floyd did), Jessie James Leija, Julio Cesar Chavez, Pernell Whitaker, Miguel Angel Gonzalez, Ike Quartey, Felix Trinidad, Shane Mosley, Arturo Gatti, Javier Castillejo, Fernando Vargas, Yori Boy Campos, Felix Sturm, Ricardo Mayorga, Bernard Hopkins, Steve Forbes and Floyd Himeslf. Also add the top contenders he has beaten and you have maybe one of the best resumes in the history of the sport. Also many of these guys were on the pound for pound list when De La Hoya faced them.

    I am not saying that Floyd is not a great fighter but resume wise De La Hoya takes the prize hands down. Yes he is undefeated but is he really undefeated against the absolute best the sport and each of his perspective divisions had to offer?

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    Default Re: Floyd has the bestresume in boxing.

    For me its a toss up between Dela Hoya and Hopkins.
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    Default Re: Floyd has the bestresume in boxing.

    Hopkins had a relatively easy reign at Middle and his best wins are against blown up Welterweights. Great fighter, but his opposition is nowhere near the likes of De La Hoya

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    Default Re: Floyd has the bestresume in boxing.

    Superheavyrhun did an interesting post a while back to objectively rate all the champs according srtictly to stats, maybe he could dig it up, it was a very good read. Bottom line was that Floyd was on top with his +/- and ODLH has tasted defeat. Floyd's resume is much better than most people will give him credit for, but his inactivity and distractions from boxing are making me lose some respect for him as a boxer. I can certainly respect someone that's chasing dollars, it's hard for me to hold that against him, but when it takes away from him fighting who he needs to fight it becomes an issue for me.
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    Default Re: Floyd has the bestresume in boxing.

    cotto`s currently beaten about 11-12 world class opponents in succession (discount gomez)

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    Default Re: Floyd has the bestresume in boxing.

    The facts are the facts

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    Default Re: Floyd has the bestresume in boxing.

    Quote Originally Posted by Put Em' Up View Post
    I hate to be the spoiler in all of this but Oscar De La Hoya has the best resume in boxing. Floyd is also known for picking the weakest link in the divisions title holders to accomplish his championship victory. I also do not think Floyd has faced another title holder for a unification bout in his career.

    Floyd Mayweather Jr's best opponent's are Diego Corrales, Jose Luis Castillo and Oscar De La Hoya. His other big champions were

    Zab Judah after Judah lost to Carlos Baldomir
    Arturo Gatti- A shot Arturo Gatti that Oscar beat 4 years earlier and 1 round sooner.
    Demarcus Corley on his down slide.
    Genaro Hernandez- Oscar beat him 3 years earlier and 2 rounds sooner
    Angel Manfredy- No feather in the cap there. A long past his best Jorge Paez and Gatti were his claims to fame.
    Jose Luis Castillo- Everyone knows the first fight was a gift.

    Top names De La Hoya has faced.
    Jimmy Bredahl, Jorge Paez, John John Molina, Rafael Ruelas, Genaro Hernandez (Before Floyd did), Jessie James Leija, Julio Cesar Chavez, Pernell Whitaker, Miguel Angel Gonzalez, Ike Quartey, Felix Trinidad, Shane Mosley, Arturo Gatti, Javier Castillejo, Fernando Vargas, Yori Boy Campos, Felix Sturm, Ricardo Mayorga, Bernard Hopkins, Steve Forbes and Floyd Himeslf. Also add the top contenders he has beaten and you have maybe one of the best resumes in the history of the sport. Also many of these guys were on the pound for pound list when De La Hoya faced them.

    I am not saying that Floyd is not a great fighter but resume wise De La Hoya takes the prize hands down. Yes he is undefeated but is he really undefeated against the absolute best the sport and each of his perspective divisions had to offer?
    No mention of Hatton?

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    Default Re: Floyd has the bestresume in boxing.

    Quote Originally Posted by JT Rock View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Put Em' Up View Post
    I hate to be the spoiler in all of this but Oscar De La Hoya has the best resume in boxing. Floyd is also known for picking the weakest link in the divisions title holders to accomplish his championship victory. I also do not think Floyd has faced another title holder for a unification bout in his career.

    Floyd Mayweather Jr's best opponent's are Diego Corrales, Jose Luis Castillo and Oscar De La Hoya. His other big champions were

    Zab Judah after Judah lost to Carlos Baldomir
    Arturo Gatti- A shot Arturo Gatti that Oscar beat 4 years earlier and 1 round sooner.
    Demarcus Corley on his down slide.
    Genaro Hernandez- Oscar beat him 3 years earlier and 2 rounds sooner
    Angel Manfredy- No feather in the cap there. A long past his best Jorge Paez and Gatti were his claims to fame.
    Jose Luis Castillo- Everyone knows the first fight was a gift.

    Top names De La Hoya has faced.
    Jimmy Bredahl, Jorge Paez, John John Molina, Rafael Ruelas, Genaro Hernandez (Before Floyd did), Jessie James Leija, Julio Cesar Chavez, Pernell Whitaker, Miguel Angel Gonzalez, Ike Quartey, Felix Trinidad, Shane Mosley, Arturo Gatti, Javier Castillejo, Fernando Vargas, Yori Boy Campos, Felix Sturm, Ricardo Mayorga, Bernard Hopkins, Steve Forbes and Floyd Himeslf. Also add the top contenders he has beaten and you have maybe one of the best resumes in the history of the sport. Also many of these guys were on the pound for pound list when De La Hoya faced them.

    I am not saying that Floyd is not a great fighter but resume wise De La Hoya takes the prize hands down. Yes he is undefeated but is he really undefeated against the absolute best the sport and each of his perspective divisions had to offer?
    No mention of Hatton?

    Havent you heard

    Hatton is now officially an average, washed up fighter after his close shave 120-108 win against lazcano.


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    Default Re: Floyd has the bestresume in boxing.

    Quote Originally Posted by JT Rock View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Put Em' Up View Post
    I hate to be the spoiler in all of this but Oscar De La Hoya has the best resume in boxing. Floyd is also known for picking the weakest link in the divisions title holders to accomplish his championship victory. I also do not think Floyd has faced another title holder for a unification bout in his career.

    Floyd Mayweather Jr's best opponent's are Diego Corrales, Jose Luis Castillo and Oscar De La Hoya. His other big champions were

    Zab Judah after Judah lost to Carlos Baldomir
    Arturo Gatti- A shot Arturo Gatti that Oscar beat 4 years earlier and 1 round sooner.
    Demarcus Corley on his down slide.
    Genaro Hernandez- Oscar beat him 3 years earlier and 2 rounds sooner
    Angel Manfredy- No feather in the cap there. A long past his best Jorge Paez and Gatti were his claims to fame.
    Jose Luis Castillo- Everyone knows the first fight was a gift.

    Top names De La Hoya has faced.
    Jimmy Bredahl, Jorge Paez, John John Molina, Rafael Ruelas, Genaro Hernandez (Before Floyd did), Jessie James Leija, Julio Cesar Chavez, Pernell Whitaker, Miguel Angel Gonzalez, Ike Quartey, Felix Trinidad, Shane Mosley, Arturo Gatti, Javier Castillejo, Fernando Vargas, Yori Boy Campos, Felix Sturm, Ricardo Mayorga, Bernard Hopkins, Steve Forbes and Floyd Himeslf. Also add the top contenders he has beaten and you have maybe one of the best resumes in the history of the sport. Also many of these guys were on the pound for pound list when De La Hoya faced them.

    I am not saying that Floyd is not a great fighter but resume wise De La Hoya takes the prize hands down. Yes he is undefeated but is he really undefeated against the absolute best the sport and each of his perspective divisions had to offer?
    No mention of Hatton?

    I forgot all about Ricky Hatton. I was trying to do all of this off the top of my head so you have to excuse the non mention of Ricky.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hattonthehammer View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JT Rock View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Put Em' Up View Post
    I hate to be the spoiler in all of this but Oscar De La Hoya has the best resume in boxing. Floyd is also known for picking the weakest link in the divisions title holders to accomplish his championship victory. I also do not think Floyd has faced another title holder for a unification bout in his career.

    Floyd Mayweather Jr's best opponent's are Diego Corrales, Jose Luis Castillo and Oscar De La Hoya. His other big champions were

    Zab Judah after Judah lost to Carlos Baldomir
    Arturo Gatti- A shot Arturo Gatti that Oscar beat 4 years earlier and 1 round sooner.
    Demarcus Corley on his down slide.
    Genaro Hernandez- Oscar beat him 3 years earlier and 2 rounds sooner
    Angel Manfredy- No feather in the cap there. A long past his best Jorge Paez and Gatti were his claims to fame.
    Jose Luis Castillo- Everyone knows the first fight was a gift.

    Top names De La Hoya has faced.
    Jimmy Bredahl, Jorge Paez, John John Molina, Rafael Ruelas, Genaro Hernandez (Before Floyd did), Jessie James Leija, Julio Cesar Chavez, Pernell Whitaker, Miguel Angel Gonzalez, Ike Quartey, Felix Trinidad, Shane Mosley, Arturo Gatti, Javier Castillejo, Fernando Vargas, Yori Boy Campos, Felix Sturm, Ricardo Mayorga, Bernard Hopkins, Steve Forbes and Floyd Himeslf. Also add the top contenders he has beaten and you have maybe one of the best resumes in the history of the sport. Also many of these guys were on the pound for pound list when De La Hoya faced them.

    I am not saying that Floyd is not a great fighter but resume wise De La Hoya takes the prize hands down. Yes he is undefeated but is he really undefeated against the absolute best the sport and each of his perspective divisions had to offer?
    No mention of Hatton?

    Havent you heard

    Hatton is now officially an average, washed up fighter after his close shave 120-108 win against lazcano.

    Yea no kidding... People forget so fast... Ironically enough its Bullshit that Hatton fell of the PFP list but Hop is on it

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    Default Re: Floyd has the bestresume in boxing.

    I'm at home now and so I have the magazine the my number was actually incorrect but Floyd is still ahead by some margin here is a list along with the amount of champions each fighter has beaten.

    Champions defeated
    Floyd Mayweather (12)
    Manny Pacquiao (7)
    Juan Manuel Marquez (4)
    Bernard Hopkins (10)
    Joe Calzhage (6)
    Israel Vazquez (3)
    Miguel Cotto (7)
    Ricky Hatton (7)
    Kelly Pavlik (1)
    Rafael Marquez (4)

    I mean you can claim that those were 'weak' champions but that's subjective nonsense Mayweather has certainly earned the right to at least be respected.

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    Default Re: Floyd has the bestresume in boxing.

    Quote Originally Posted by hattonthehammer View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JT Rock View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Put Em' Up View Post
    I hate to be the spoiler in all of this but Oscar De La Hoya has the best resume in boxing. Floyd is also known for picking the weakest link in the divisions title holders to accomplish his championship victory. I also do not think Floyd has faced another title holder for a unification bout in his career.

    Floyd Mayweather Jr's best opponent's are Diego Corrales, Jose Luis Castillo and Oscar De La Hoya. His other big champions were

    Zab Judah after Judah lost to Carlos Baldomir
    Arturo Gatti- A shot Arturo Gatti that Oscar beat 4 years earlier and 1 round sooner.
    Demarcus Corley on his down slide.
    Genaro Hernandez- Oscar beat him 3 years earlier and 2 rounds sooner
    Angel Manfredy- No feather in the cap there. A long past his best Jorge Paez and Gatti were his claims to fame.
    Jose Luis Castillo- Everyone knows the first fight was a gift.

    Top names De La Hoya has faced.
    Jimmy Bredahl, Jorge Paez, John John Molina, Rafael Ruelas, Genaro Hernandez (Before Floyd did), Jessie James Leija, Julio Cesar Chavez, Pernell Whitaker, Miguel Angel Gonzalez, Ike Quartey, Felix Trinidad, Shane Mosley, Arturo Gatti, Javier Castillejo, Fernando Vargas, Yori Boy Campos, Felix Sturm, Ricardo Mayorga, Bernard Hopkins, Steve Forbes and Floyd Himeslf. Also add the top contenders he has beaten and you have maybe one of the best resumes in the history of the sport. Also many of these guys were on the pound for pound list when De La Hoya faced them.

    I am not saying that Floyd is not a great fighter but resume wise De La Hoya takes the prize hands down. Yes he is undefeated but is he really undefeated against the absolute best the sport and each of his perspective divisions had to offer?
    No mention of Hatton?

    Havent you heard

    Hatton is now officially an average, washed up fighter after his close shave 120-108 win against lazcano.

    The fact that 2 judges scored it 120-108 for Hatton shows they were in the pocket. No matter how many knock downs Lazcano would of scored he was going to win

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    Default Re: Floyd has the bestresume in boxing.

    Can you clarify something...

    Is this how many Champions hes faced meaning that some of them by the time they fought were "former" champs?

    Am I correct?

    If so why not better find how many times they challenged for a title against a champion and won?

    ODLH: Bredahl, Rafael, JCC, Pernell, Javier, Vargas, Sturm, Mayorga
    PBF: Hernandez, JLC, Gatti, Zab, Baldomir, ODLH


    *Let's not forget Zab lost this title to Baldo but the IBF literally gave the title back to Zab after they didn't receive their cut from the pie. I'll give you that one since the name didn't carry any weight by that time. IMO

    Now look at those names and tell me which of the PBF opponents comes close to Pernell?

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