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    I been saying for a while that Joshua Clottey is heavily avoided like Margarito has been because as rough, durable and metodical he is... Clottey is no Joke the guy usually hydrates up to 160 by fight time to go with a great High guard and good combos.... Your gonna see Judah get grinded down and broken up like Cotto did to him... I rate this kid up there with the Margarito, Cotto's of the World, he has a great opportunity tonight against Judah and will show on the big stage what he can do..

    I believe both Margarito and Clottey were injured in there fight. I would love to see them go at it again since Clottey is big and dosent get outmuscled and stands his ground as well as being good defensively would give Margarito big time trouble again...

    Tonight is Clottey's time again and like Margarito has had to crawl back into the picture again and after he beats Judah I love to see him fight Cotto next the beginning of the year, as I believe Clottey can beat him

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    Clottey has all the tools to do it big in the division..

    But not only would i prefer my guy Zab wins this but i give genuine chance to pull this one out.. i believe he has matured enough and that he knows this is the time to show his talent and the chances wont keep coming

    I'll leave you with a bit of a judah quote i quite enjoyed.

    Said Judah, referring to their New York roots, "We are from two of the toughest boroughs in New York. There's a saying in New York: The Bronx makes it, but Brooklyn takes it. I've never seen the Bronx take anything but a beating."
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    Joshua Clottey is a good allrounder he does no one thing great but he is a solid allround boxer plus his counter punching is top notch aswell...........

    Im not quite sure how far Joshua Clottey can go though thats the problem i can see him beating Zab Judah, Luis Collazo, Carlos Quintana, and a fight with Andre Berto would be close at this point in Andre Berto's career and i could see him beating Kermit Cintron depending on how well he takes Kermit Cintron's bombs.........

    But i can't see Joshua Clottey beating Antonio Margarito, Paul Williams, Floyd Mayweather, Miguel Cotto, but if Joshua Clottey does win he should fight Kermit Cintron or chase a fight with Andre Berto............

    But i wish Joshua Clottey all the best he has been unlucky in his career with a DQ loss to Carlos Baldomir which he was easily winning then an unlucky loss to Antonio Margarito which he could of won because Antonio Margarito was in bad shape at that time with injuries but unluckily for Joshua Clottey he broke his hand and then proceeded to lose the next 8 rounds or 7 out of the next 8 rounds.........

    I hope Joshua Clottey picks up a belt and i hope he beats Zab Judah he deserves a big win.

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    No doubt he deserves it..

    but i have to disagree with you on the collazo front..

    A slick boxer who can move is not a good path for clottey..

    his shape is great and his heart matches.. but i just dont think his style lends well to Luis'
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    I'm pulling for Clottey and got him winning this one. I do, however, wonder how much fire he's got left. He hasn't looked all that stunning as of late, but then again neither has Judah.

    I fear if Zab wins this it will be the same song different verse; big title fight, big let down. Honestly I gave up on Zab, so I guess that makes me not a real devoted fan, but I expect a damn good fight tonight because this is almost a must win for both guys.

    I hope those guys watched that massive event we witnessed last weekend, and maybe it put some fire in their bellies. Clottey by UD.
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    Damn.. where is sal when you need team members..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tito BHB View Post
    Damn.. where is sal when you need team members..




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    Quote Originally Posted by Tito BHB View Post
    No doubt he deserves it..

    but i have to disagree with you on the collazo front..

    A slick boxer who can move is not a good path for clottey..

    his shape is great and his heart matches.. but i just dont think his style lends well to Luis'
    As good as Luis Collazo is he has limited punch output and Joshua Clottey keeps coming and his workrate is pretty good.......

    I can see Joshua Clottey losing the early rounds against Luis Collazo but i can see him just edging out a points win vs Luis Collazo.....

    But Luis Collazo is also another unlucky Welterweight who lost highly disputed decision to Ricky Haton then broke his hand against Shane Mosley and up until the broken hand he was doing well......

    I also hope Luis Collazo gets another crack at a big name he also deserves it infact why not Andre Berto vs Luis Collazo should Andre Berto beat Zab Judah ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LEGION View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Tito BHB View Post
    Damn.. where is sal when you need team members..




    Passed out probably.


    He'll be back..

    And i'll have some asprin waiting for him when he returns to rep our man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ssss View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Tito BHB View Post
    No doubt he deserves it..

    but i have to disagree with you on the collazo front..

    A slick boxer who can move is not a good path for clottey..

    his shape is great and his heart matches.. but i just dont think his style lends well to Luis'
    As good as Luis Collazo is he has limited punch output and Joshua Clottey keeps coming and his workrate is pretty good.......

    I can see Joshua Clottey losing the early rounds against Luis Collazo but i can see him just edging out a points win vs Luis Collazo.....

    But Luis Collazo is also another unlucky Welterweight who lost highly disputed decision to Ricky Haton then broke his hand against Shane Mosley and up until the broken hand he was doing well......

    I also hope Luis Collazo gets another crack at a big name he also deserves it infact why not Andre Berto vs Luis Collazo should Andre Berto beat Zab Judah ?
    I know its just opinion and your right when you say Luis is another unlucky welter..

    But i hope Luis gets his shot at berto before Zab did.. cause in my opinion i'd be quite confident that zab could take berto out..

    its quite a judah-spinks-esque matchup exept cory i think was slicker and berto has been knocked down by lesser competition. so i think it bodes well for judah.. if he so chooses to be prepared right and proves what he has.
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    You'll see man at this time I rate him just as good as anybody... Like mentioned Clottey is a great Counter puncher to go with his durability... I think his style is a good one and lends himself a good style matchup to anyone

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    Quote Originally Posted by ssss View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Tito BHB View Post
    No doubt he deserves it..

    but i have to disagree with you on the collazo front..

    A slick boxer who can move is not a good path for clottey..

    his shape is great and his heart matches.. but i just dont think his style lends well to Luis'
    As good as Luis Collazo is he has limited punch output and Joshua Clottey keeps coming and his workrate is pretty good.......

    I can see Joshua Clottey losing the early rounds against Luis Collazo but i can see him just edging out a points win vs Luis Collazo.....

    But Luis Collazo is also another unlucky Welterweight who lost highly disputed decision to Ricky Haton then broke his hand against Shane Mosley and up until the broken hand he was doing well......

    I also hope Luis Collazo gets another crack at a big name he also deserves it infact why not Andre Berto vs Luis Collazo should Andre Berto beat Zab Judah ?
    But also i think luis' punch output depends on the fighter he's in with..

    because he is mainly a counter puncher he tends to jab and paw and keep the jab and hook going and work some body until he find openings..
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    Quote Originally Posted by JT Rock View Post
    You'll see man at this time I rate him just as good as anybody... Like mentioned Clottey is a great Counter puncher to go with his durability... I think his style is a good one and lends himself a good style matchup to anyone
    as far as his chin goes i have always been adamant of preaching judahs power but his durability is something to respect and i hope zabs camp has stressed the importance of boxing early and preserving as much as possible to bag the early rounds and giving it all to the final bell as hard as it will be for zab later in the fight..

    I must admit due to the fact that the mosely fight fell through and azb has been in shape and in camp basically since then i feel alot better about the shape he is coming in as..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tito BHB View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ssss View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Tito BHB View Post
    No doubt he deserves it..

    but i have to disagree with you on the collazo front..

    A slick boxer who can move is not a good path for clottey..

    his shape is great and his heart matches.. but i just dont think his style lends well to Luis'
    As good as Luis Collazo is he has limited punch output and Joshua Clottey keeps coming and his workrate is pretty good.......

    I can see Joshua Clottey losing the early rounds against Luis Collazo but i can see him just edging out a points win vs Luis Collazo.....

    But Luis Collazo is also another unlucky Welterweight who lost highly disputed decision to Ricky Haton then broke his hand against Shane Mosley and up until the broken hand he was doing well......

    I also hope Luis Collazo gets another crack at a big name he also deserves it infact why not Andre Berto vs Luis Collazo should Andre Berto beat Zab Judah ?
    I know its just opinion and your right when you say Luis is another unlucky welter..

    But i hope Luis gets his shot at berto before Zab did.. cause in my opinion i'd be quite confident that zab could take berto out..

    its quite a judah-spinks-esque matchup exept cory i think was slicker and berto has been knocked down by lesser competition. so i think it bodes well for judah.. if he so chooses to be prepared right and proves what he has.
    To rate a fighter getting knocked down as a sole basis for a fight outcome is a little shortsighted dont you think Tito? Your boy Trinidad had gotten quite a few flash knockdowns in his career by not so hard punches... Same thing with Berto he got floored by a flash knock down and was not in trouble at all...

    Also how can you call Berto Spinks-esque? Spinks has 0 power... Berto packs great power and unreal handspeed... Your pretty spot on usually Tito, but it sounds like you dont know anything about Berto and havent seen much of him based on your assesment... Also why is everyone on on Judah's nutz still... All I here is, "If Zab is focused he could be this or that" after about the 5 th time you say that about a fighter its a clear indicator that at the end of the day he isint really that fighter since he cant seem to put it all together... Boxing is just as mental and emotional as physical... Judah dosent have it, Judah is known more for his losses than wins, he always fails when he steps up... Tszyu, Mayweather, Cotto and loss to Baldomir as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JT Rock View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Tito BHB View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ssss View Post

    As good as Luis Collazo is he has limited punch output and Joshua Clottey keeps coming and his workrate is pretty good.......

    I can see Joshua Clottey losing the early rounds against Luis Collazo but i can see him just edging out a points win vs Luis Collazo.....

    But Luis Collazo is also another unlucky Welterweight who lost highly disputed decision to Ricky Haton then broke his hand against Shane Mosley and up until the broken hand he was doing well......

    I also hope Luis Collazo gets another crack at a big name he also deserves it infact why not Andre Berto vs Luis Collazo should Andre Berto beat Zab Judah ?
    I know its just opinion and your right when you say Luis is another unlucky welter..

    But i hope Luis gets his shot at berto before Zab did.. cause in my opinion i'd be quite confident that zab could take berto out..

    its quite a judah-spinks-esque matchup exept cory i think was slicker and berto has been knocked down by lesser competition. so i think it bodes well for judah.. if he so chooses to be prepared right and proves what he has.
    To rate a fighter getting knocked down as a sole basis for a fight outcome is a little shortsighted dont you think Tito? Your boy Trinidad had gotten quite a few flash knockdowns in his career by not so hard punches... Same thing with Berto he got floored by a flash knock down and was not in trouble at all...

    Also how can you call Berto Spinks-esque? Spinks has 0 power... Berto packs great power and unreal handspeed... Your pretty spot on usually Tito, but it sounds like you dont know anything about Berto and havent seen much of him based on your assesment... Also why is everyone on on Judah's nutz still... All I here is, "If Zab is focused he could be this or that" after about the 5 th time you say that about a fighter its a clear indicator that at the end of the day he isint really that fighter since he cant seem to put it all together... Boxing is just as mental and emotional as physical... Judah dosent have it, Judah is known more for his losses than wins, he always fails when he steps up... Tszyu, Mayweather, Cotto and loss to Baldomir as well.
    No no.. your right..

    as far as me judging berto for getting knocked down in a winning effort thats mighty hypocritical.. so sure discount that bro..

    I dont know what it is about berto really.. i dont like or dislike him..

    sure ive seen him man.. im not going to comment on the guy if i havent based my own opinion of him.. and i keep up with all the prospects whether they are my guys or not to be honest.. and his match making has been okay for a guy his level but he hasnt yet earned his title..

    So based on what i have seen which is maybe 4 or 5 fights.. i gathered his general style.. great handspeed.. without really rating his oponents as anything but veterans as yet his power does look good. im not so sure about his footwork as such.. its not ploddy and when he steps he really steps with his punches well but i wouldnt say he was a boxer as such or really moves in a way that would make me think he would out box people..

    And the zab fan thing is more just something that i have done for some time..

    i dont care that zab isnt the greatest of guys i just hope that when we look back on his career that he hasnt wasted his talent cause im a fan of his..

    i dont know bout the rest but i been a zab fan for a while
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