Now Who is the most overrated heavyweight

[The Fightfan]

Ali

[Plopeater]

Wlad Klitschko

[Wayne]

Ali

Okay, you can't just drop a name like that and not back it up with anything.

I hate saying it, but Mike Tyson. He fought nobodies in his prime because that was all there was to fight and had a tendency to get lazy. I wouldn't say it had he had a better mental make-up because Tyson had everything. He was like the tin-man, hard, but he had no heart. If you could stand up to Tyson's power or give him something he couldn't deal with you had him in the palm of your hand. Look at Tyson's last fight. He threw everything but the kitchen sink at the guy and when he wouldn't go away Tyson quit.

[GAME]

Tough one. I think everyone pretty much gets as much credit as they deserve. Maybe Ali gets abit more than his wins warrant but thats cuz of people are led to belive he is the best by the media.

[X]

Wlad Klitschko

Yes, and Lennox too, I'm afraid.

[Tysonbruno]

Lennox overrated how?

[Dark Lord Al]

At the moment Sam Peter for me

[TonyBhoy]

David Haye.

At least until I actually see him fight someone.

[Mar]

Overrated i'm not sure, i hate to use that term but in question for me is chris arreola, now wait before you start the bad rep's cause i like the guy i just feel too much is being put on his shouders to be the next great ameri kkk can (jus playin had to throw that in) heavyweight saviour and i think they are going to rush his progress just to have one.

[TitoFan]

Riddick Bowe may not have been the MOST overrated, but he was overrated, IMO. People wanted SO BADLY for him to do great... and he quite never fulfilled his potential. So Riddick makes that list for me.

[No Contest]

Ali?? You must not have seen many of his fights......I mean really.....

[The Fightfan]

Ok here goes time too defend myself. Yes I have seen many of his fight's and also have many of his fight's and rare one's at that.but so many of his fight's that come too mind I've seen him lose in my eye's. Frazier II. I mean how does a man win that widespread by touching and running anmd sitting on the ropes holing behind the neck.Frazier was the stalker constantly pressuring Ali and if it wasn't for Frazier coming forward there would be no fight. Earnie Shaver's the man knocked Ali down and to me clearly won the desicion. I have it on film.The ref rules no knockdown,Doug Jones again I thought Jones outpointed Ali. Ken Norton in one of the biggest robberies in boxing at Yankee Stadium to end their trilogy. To me the referee's were starstruck if Ali were too fight nowadays I believe he would be disqualified at least five times.The constant pulling on the back of the neck Frazier,Bonavena,Foreman,Norton,Lyle,the list goes one also the way he used to stick his glove out an open glove at that to those same people.

Another reason was the involvement with what happenend outside the ring. Honestly do you think that many Muslims or hippie's would be attracted to a black catholic boxer.Hell no. I 've seen so many of this man's fight's and seen him get away with repeated time after time fouls.That in this day and age would be penalized. One more is Ali was in the worst of fight's I had ever seen Buster Mathis Sr. and another I had never seen until recently on the Ali marathon last weekend Alvin Lewis. I looked at that fight and said what the hell the guy got hit with a jab and the stopped it. Lewis was overmatched but still I think I fell asleep in every round of that fight.Rudi Lubbers need I say more.

I am not saying Ali was a horrible fighter in fact when he was known as Cassius Clay I said damn that's the greatest fighter I've ever seen then as I put in more tapes in my trusty VCR I see this man just leaning on the ropes taking stupid punishment and everyone saying this guy is The Greatest fighter ever? Not in my eyes When I can count another five losses that should have been wins for his oppenent's.

Oh well that's the best I can come up with

[TitoFan]

Ok here goes time too defend myself. Yes I have seen many of his fight's and also have many of his fight's and rare one's at that.but so many of his fight's that come too mind I've seen him lose in my eye's. Frazier II. I mean how does a man win that widespread by touching and running anmd sitting on the ropes holing behind the neck.Frazier was the stalker constantly pressuring Ali and if it wasn't for Frazier coming forward there would be no fight. Earnie Shaver's the man knocked Ali down and to me clearly won the desicion. I have it on film.The ref rules no knockdown,Doug Jones again I thought Jones outpointed Ali. Ken Norton in one of the biggest robberies in boxing at Yankee Stadium to end their trilogy. To me the referee's were starstruck if Ali were too fight nowadays I believe he would be disqualified at least five times.The constant pulling on the back of the neck Frazier,Bonavena,Foreman,Norton,Lyle,the list goes one also the way he used to stick his glove out an open glove at that to those same people.

Another reason was the involvement with what happenend outside the ring. Honestly do you think that many Muslims or hippie's would be attracted to a black catholic boxer.Hell no. I 've seen so many of this man's fight's and seen him get away with repeated time after time fouls.That in this day and age would be penalized. One more is Ali was in the worst of fight's I had ever seen Buster Mathis Sr. and another I had never seen until recently on the Ali marathon last weekend Alvin Lewis. I looked at that fight and said what the hell the guy got hit with a jab and the stopped it. Lewis was overmatched but still I think I fell asleep in every round of that fight.Rudi Lubbers need I say more.

I am not saying Ali was a horrible fighter in fact when he was known as Cassius Clay I said damn that's the greatest fighter I've ever seen then as I put in more tapes in my trusty VCR I see this man just leaning on the ropes taking stupid punishment and everyone saying this guy is The Greatest fighter ever? Not in my eyes When I can count another five losses that should have been wins for his oppenent's.

Oh well that's the best I can come up with

I was distracted by the picture in your avatar.... but about Ali, well I ......er... I'm sorry... what was I saying?

Just kidding man. You have a right to consider Ali overrated, just as all of us fight fans have different opinions on everything. Personally, I thought Ali-Frazier III was one of the greatest fights I've ever seen. Were refs "starstruck" as you say in some of Ali's fights? Yeah... I agree with that. But he did accomplish some remarkable feats inside the ring. Somehow, he found a way to not only beat, but to KO the "Monster" George Foreman who, not only annihilated most boxers he faced, but also scared them into soiling their pants before they ever got into the ring. So you gotta give some credit to the man. And as for those multi-colored socks..... er..... I'm sorry bro.... I'm drifting again.

[Andre]

Lennox overrated how?

I think so sort of and only by some people , but for me just on style, i cant help but think some others if they were his same size would of had him worked out more consistantly. Cause he was big with the added reach, he utilized it perfectly and shaped his stye around that safley (8/9 out of 10.) but not the greatest of all time,the older style greats would of had him on work rate and angles.

[No Contest]

Ok here goes time too defend myself. Yes I have seen many of his fight's and also have many of his fight's and rare one's at that.but so many of his fight's that come too mind I've seen him lose in my eye's. Frazier II. I mean how does a man win that widespread by touching and running anmd sitting on the ropes holing behind the neck.Frazier was the stalker constantly pressuring Ali and if it wasn't for Frazier coming forward there would be no fight. Earnie Shaver's the man knocked Ali down and to me clearly won the desicion. I have it on film.The ref rules no knockdown,Doug Jones again I thought Jones outpointed Ali. Ken Norton in one of the biggest robberies in boxing at Yankee Stadium to end their trilogy. To me the referee's were starstruck if Ali were too fight nowadays I believe he would be disqualified at least five times.The constant pulling on the back of the neck Frazier,Bonavena,Foreman,Norton,Lyle,the list goes one also the way he used to stick his glove out an open glove at that to those same people.

Another reason was the involvement with what happenend outside the ring. Honestly do you think that many Muslims or hippie's would be attracted to a black catholic boxer.Hell no. I 've seen so many of this man's fight's and seen him get away with repeated time after time fouls.That in this day and age would be penalized. One more is Ali was in the worst of fight's I had ever seen Buster Mathis Sr. and another I had never seen until recently on the Ali marathon last weekend Alvin Lewis. I looked at that fight and said what the hell the guy got hit with a jab and the stopped it. Lewis was overmatched but still I think I fell asleep in every round of that fight.Rudi Lubbers need I say more.

I am not saying Ali was a horrible fighter in fact when he was known as Cassius Clay I said damn that's the greatest fighter I've ever seen then as I put in more tapes in my trusty VCR I see this man just leaning on the ropes taking stupid punishment and everyone saying this guy is The Greatest fighter ever? Not in my eyes When I can count another five losses that should have been wins for his oppenent's.

Oh well that's the best I can come up with

Its cool man I'm a Frazier fan too, he's one of the most "underrated" fighters in history. I agree, I thought Frazier won that too, but I can admit I was biased.