Is Evander Holyfield really a drug cheat?

[rjj tszyu]

For the last year or so I've been hearing that Evander Holyfield the only four time Heavyweight champion of the world and former undisputed Cruiserweight champion of the world was rumoured to have been using Human growth hormone, a steroid that is virtually untraceable.
Holyfield though denies the claims (obviously), and to be honest I really hope that the claims Evan Fields (Holyfields supposed alias) is all just fabricated nonsense.
Holyfield is my favourite ever heayweight so more out of hope than anything I'm going to vote that NO he is not a drug cheat. What do you guys think?

[blegit]

Well besides his tricky alias, Evan Fields, when the files were confiscated with that name on it it also had his address. So there is some very bad evidence against Holyfield. Whats gets me is that when a baseball player is accused they point out his build and how he beefed up. I don't agree with this because working out and using supplements will put on nice gains. But if you did the same with Holyfield he would easily be convicted by public opinion. You would be hard pressed to find a boxer with a muscular and defining build like Holyfield. There may not be even one. And as far as steroids. I know a lot of amateur athletes on the juice and I would only imagine that it gets heavy when salaries are at stake. I believe a lot of sports have a performance enhancing drug problem. Whether it be known or not.

[rjj tszyu]

Well besides his tricky alias, Evan Fields, when the files were confiscated with that name on it it also had his address. So there is some very bad evidence against Holyfield. Whats gets me is that when a baseball player is accused they point out his build and how he beefed up. I don't agree with this because working out and using supplements will put on nice gains. But if you did the same with Holyfield he would easily be convicted by public opinion. You would be hard pressed to find a boxer with a muscular and defining build like Holyfield. There may not be even one. And as far as steroids. I know a lot of amateur athletes on the juice and I would only imagine that it gets heavy when salaries are at stake. I believe a lot of sports have a performance enhancing drug problem. Whether it be known or not.

Holyfield had a tremendous physique when he was down at Cruiser so I don't think it made much difference to that. Plus if you look at James Toneys figure who has been proven to be on steroids twice it doesn't always work like that. Also there have been a few boxers with a good body. There is David Haye nowadays there was Frank Bruno in his day, Kenny Norton had quite a similar Body to Holyfield so I wouldn't say it neccesarily points towards steroid use.

[Lance Uppercut]

For the last year or so I've been hearing that Evander Holyfield the only four time Heavyweight champion of the world and former undisputed Cruiserweight champion of the world was rumoured to have been using Human growth hormone, a steroid that is virtually untraceable.
Holyfield though denies the claims (obviously), and to be honest I really hope that the claims Evan Fields (Holyfields supposed alias) is all just fabricated nonsense.
Holyfield is my favourite ever heayweight so more out of hope than anything I'm going to vote that NO he is not a drug cheat. What do you guys think?

I think it is disrespectful to Muhammad Ali (a legitimate 3 time heavyweight champion),to refer to Holyfield as a 4 time heavyweight champion. Sure Holyfield was a 4 time alphabet titlest, but he was only really a 2 time Heavyweight Champion.

[Boom Boom]

Holyfield has been tested many times as most fighters on the championship level are. Hes never tested positive. Anyone can be accused of steroid use, but until its proven he should be given the benefit of the doubt. Hes always had a good physique, even at 46 and his weight has been consistant. He just trains hard and has good genetics. Being a faster heavyweight who was quick with his hands and feet and never been a monstrous puncher, steroid use would hurt his performance if anything. Also, steroids is known to do a lot of damage to your body. Every steroid user ive seen has not physically looked good in their 40s and their performance drastically changes when they stop using. Holyfield just doesnt fit the part imo.

[OumaFan]

Its definitely possible, there's probably more guys doing it than we think, it wouldn't shock me if Holyfield, did, always had suspicions about Roy's rise to heavy honestly, but there's no clear evidence about that. Obviously Toney. He's stupid enough to actually fail a drug test, dumb ass If you look at some articles recently it seems pretty much lock tight that Mosley did. Its not a question of whether he did or not, he just says that he didn't know what Balco was giving him but honestly there's not much there at all to support that claim.

[ross]

steroids is known to do a lot of damage to your body.

Like shrunken bollocks and a bad ticker??

SI.com - More Sports - SI: Holyfield allegedly received steroids, HGH via alias - Thursday March 1, 2007 3:48PM

[Von Milash]

if my memory serves, he ballooned up in record time. He is like Barry Bonds: skinny to start, massive to end. Hard work alone doesn't do that.

[luvfightgame]

Yeah, he did bulk up real fast from cruiser to heavy. I am quite sure it's rampant. Some just get caught. All the top level guys are doing it in my opinion.

[ross]

Like it said in the artical I posted, they only get tested just before the fight, if they were to get randomly tested half way through training im sure loads would be caught and Evan Fields would suddenly feel its the right time to retire

[OumaFan]

Shocking that Ross jumped all over this one

[ICB]

I always thought it was strange how Evander Holyfield bulked up, so quickly between Riddick Bowe 1/Riddick Bowe 2. In the rematch he put on alot of muscle mass.

[CGM]

I put yes, though I would have prefered an answer that said, "it kinda looks that way, based on the evidence".

Getting back to Toney. Was there ever a pattern of usage determined? I seemed to recall he used it short term to recover from injury, rather than long term for bulk. Can anybody shed light on that?

Personally, when you talk about using steroids to recover from injury, I'm not so sure it's a bad thing. Though it is against the rules. What do others think about that?

[OumaFan]

I don't quite understand what Toney was doing. Flat out, if you get caught for it on a drug test for a championship fight you are the worst steroid user ever. I heard somewhere that the Ruiz fight came quicker than he thought and he took it anyway, I don't know?

Ice-it was 12 pounds in a year. That's not impossible but like I said I wouldn't be surprised if he was using,

Roy Jones put on almost twenty pounds in about 5 months before Ruiz and he still didn't look like he had an ounce of fat. Just saying.

[ICB]

I put yes, though I would have prefered an answer that said, "it kinda looks that way, based on the evidence".

Getting back to Toney. Was there ever a pattern of usage determined? I seemed to recall he used it short term to recover from injury, rather than long term for bulk. Can anybody shed light on that?

Personally, when you talk about using steroids to recover from injury, I'm not so sure it's a bad thing. Though it is against the rules. What do others think about that?

Its not like the steroids done James Toney any good anyway, he was still a fat slob in the John Ruiz fight.