Cryonics,Euthanasia,growing body parts in labs.

[Andre]

So if you could afford it would you do it? Freeze your body.

Not for me I would be too scared I would be turned into some future horrific experiment instead of them trying to cure me of whatever.

but Im not against it for others.







In regards to assisted suicide I saw a guy go through it yesterday on a documentary and although I dont think I have the balls myself, I saw his point.

He also said the pro lifers etc who are against pro choices like this, never go against the fact that if a premature baby were left to die(on their terms of thinking it would be the will of God that it wasnt ment to be here) but they dont bother about protesting that science is thwa ting that will when it steps in and helps out in those cases.

Good point I thought.



Im all for that too cant see what the fuss is.







Also we have a footy player out here that has a knee cartlage rebuild underway,they have saved a piece and have flown it to the otherside of Australia where it will be re grown in a dish and he will get it put back in next year.

That i think is great stuff.

[Gandalf]

I have no desire to live again after it's over. The one lifetime is quite enough for me. So, hopefully nobody will put me in the freezer. But like you say, if others want to do it then fair enough.

I have no issues with euthanasia. I wouldn't like to assist anyone in ending their own life though, but I suppose if push came to shove and the person really wanted it, then I could probably do it. It would likely affect me a lot though. If others were comfortable with it then I would have no objections.

I have no issue with the growing part of a knee thing. That's quite nice actually. I have issues with cloning entire people because I just don't think that is neccessary in a grossly overpopulated world. But to help those already living in it, well, that is fair enough.

[El Kabong]

I live in America, why the fuck should I care about the "Youth in Asia"?!?!?

[Kev]

I am completely against euthanaisa. They will drum up support for it on the back of heartfelt pleas from people suffering from terminal illness but the true reasons for it are simple population control and the depopulation agenda.

Over the past hundred years or so the Global Elite have successfully launched a full frontal assualt on our beliefs and values and bit by bit are convincing the masses to fall into line with their plans.

They managed to change the status of abortion from being despicable evil and murder of the innocents into a nice guilt free form of birth control that is the right of any woman and now they are working on changing the face of euthanasia to make it acceptable.

It will start by focusing on the individual cases of horrendous suffering but will within a couple of decades simply be seen as the normal state of events to end the life of your elderly, poor, suffering parents, to spare the young the intolerable burden of looking after them, and of course from the elite's perspective the burden on the welfare state.

They just want to get the population down folks, you are all being deceived, that is the cold fact.

Of course none of you will believe me for another 30 or 40 years but at least you have been informed.

[Gandalf]

I am completely against euthanaisa. They will drum up support for it on the back of heartfelt pleas from people suffering from terminal illness but the true reasons for it are simple population control and the depopulation agenda.

Over the past hundred years or so the Global Elite have successfully launched a full frontal assualt on our beliefs and values and bit by bit are convincing the masses to fall into line with their plans.

They managed to change the status of abortion from being despicable evil and murder of the innocents into a nice guilt free form of birth control that is the right of any woman and now they are working on changing the face of euthanasia to make it acceptable.

It will start by focusing on the individual cases of horrendous suffering but will within a couple of decades simply be seen as the normal state of events to end the life of your elderly, poor, suffering parents, to spare the young the intolerable burden of looking after them, and of course from the elite's perspective the burden on the welfare state.

They just want to get the population down folks, you are all being deceived, that is the cold fact.

Of course none of you will believe me for another 30 or 40 years but at least you have been informed.

What a bizarre post. I used to think Bilbo was a relatively normal guy with some quirks, but he comes across like a nutty troll more and more these days. Considering that the population is rising beyond belief I have a hard time imagining that these cases of euthanasia or abortion are making all that much difference in the grand scheme of things.

Oh, but listen to me 30 years from now. Bugger off, you are talking out of your arse again.

I think the world is headed to a horrid end, but not via these methods whatsover.

[Youngblood]

there is just no way to put this politely...

[Kev]

I am completely against euthanaisa. They will drum up support for it on the back of heartfelt pleas from people suffering from terminal illness but the true reasons for it are simple population control and the depopulation agenda.

Over the past hundred years or so the Global Elite have successfully launched a full frontal assualt on our beliefs and values and bit by bit are convincing the masses to fall into line with their plans.

They managed to change the status of abortion from being despicable evil and murder of the innocents into a nice guilt free form of birth control that is the right of any woman and now they are working on changing the face of euthanasia to make it acceptable.

It will start by focusing on the individual cases of horrendous suffering but will within a couple of decades simply be seen as the normal state of events to end the life of your elderly, poor, suffering parents, to spare the young the intolerable burden of looking after them, and of course from the elite's perspective the burden on the welfare state.

They just want to get the population down folks, you are all being deceived, that is the cold fact.

Of course none of you will believe me for another 30 or 40 years but at least you have been informed.

What a bizarre post. I used to think Bilbo was a relatively normal guy with some quirks, but he comes across like a nutty troll more and more these days. Considering that the population is rising beyond belief I have a hard time imagining that these cases of euthanasia or abortion are making all that much difference in the grand scheme of things.

Oh, but listen to me 30 years from now. Bugger off, you are talking out of your arse again.

I think the world is headed to a horrid end, but not via these methods whatsover.

Firstly, when did I ever come across a relatively normal guy, you have clearly not been reading my posts correctly, and secondly, 'I'm not a troll I'm a hobbit!! There IS a difference you know, trolls are huge, ugly creatures, foul smelling and dimwitted, whereas us hobbits are small, cute, furry of feet and suprisingly wise in spite of our Bumpkin appearance.

[Gandalf]

I am completely against euthanaisa. They will drum up support for it on the back of heartfelt pleas from people suffering from terminal illness but the true reasons for it are simple population control and the depopulation agenda.

Over the past hundred years or so the Global Elite have successfully launched a full frontal assualt on our beliefs and values and bit by bit are convincing the masses to fall into line with their plans.

They managed to change the status of abortion from being despicable evil and murder of the innocents into a nice guilt free form of birth control that is the right of any woman and now they are working on changing the face of euthanasia to make it acceptable.

It will start by focusing on the individual cases of horrendous suffering but will within a couple of decades simply be seen as the normal state of events to end the life of your elderly, poor, suffering parents, to spare the young the intolerable burden of looking after them, and of course from the elite's perspective the burden on the welfare state.

They just want to get the population down folks, you are all being deceived, that is the cold fact.

Of course none of you will believe me for another 30 or 40 years but at least you have been informed.

What a bizarre post. I used to think Bilbo was a relatively normal guy with some quirks, but he comes across like a nutty troll more and more these days. Considering that the population is rising beyond belief I have a hard time imagining that these cases of euthanasia or abortion are making all that much difference in the grand scheme of things.

Oh, but listen to me 30 years from now. Bugger off, you are talking out of your arse again.

I think the world is headed to a horrid end, but not via these methods whatsover.

Firstly, when did I ever come across a relatively normal guy, you have clearly not been reading my posts correctly, and secondly, 'I'm not a troll I'm a hobbit!! There IS a difference you know, trolls are huge, ugly creatures, foul smelling and dimwitted, whereas us hobbits are small, cute, furry of feet and suprisingly wise in spite of our Bumpkin appearance.

Well, no matter what you are saying here, I have always had a fond spot for you, Baggins. In a non gay way, of course. But I read the posts and just get a bit astounded by what I hear sometimes.

[Kev]

What a bizarre post. I used to think Bilbo was a relatively normal guy with some quirks, but he comes across like a nutty troll more and more these days. Considering that the population is rising beyond belief I have a hard time imagining that these cases of euthanasia or abortion are making all that much difference in the grand scheme of things.

Oh, but listen to me 30 years from now. Bugger off, you are talking out of your arse again.

I think the world is headed to a horrid end, but not via these methods whatsover.

Firstly, when did I ever come across a relatively normal guy, you have clearly not been reading my posts correctly, and secondly, 'I'm not a troll I'm a hobbit!! There IS a difference you know, trolls are huge, ugly creatures, foul smelling and dimwitted, whereas us hobbits are small, cute, furry of feet and suprisingly wise in spite of our Bumpkin appearance.

Well, no matter what you are saying here, I have always had a fond spot for you, Baggins. In a non gay way, of course. But I read the posts and just get a bit astounded by what I hear sometimes.

No problem Miles, I write for division not harmony.

Out of interest you might like to check out a few links though, what I am saying is actually not nuts at all.

They are basically drawing up the procedures to deny care, just like Hitler did in the Eugenics Movement. It looks so plausible to the public now, sparing people from suffering, but its mere manipulation.

Call me nuts, but at least hear me out a bit and I'll attempt to give you some food for thought.

First off, the global population is a massive problem, and one which needs to be tackled. The world's elite obviously want to do so, and they have a history of using any means to achieve their goals.

Just to show that they are seriously wanting to tackle the problem here is a speech from David Rockefella, one of the real powers behind the world stressing the need for a series of initiaitves to control population growth.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClqUcScwnn8
So what about the world's leading scientists? Well most of them think a little like this man, Erik Piana who famously argued it would be great for an ebola type virus to wipe out much of the world's population, a speech which was greeted with rapturous applause by his peers. Google the Mimm's-Pianka controversy for details, here is a vid of him on the news defending himself.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLFivVpMb1c
Ok so what about the scientific advisors advising our President's and Barak's team?

Well the man in charge of science policy in the Obama cabinet is John Holdren, a man who in 1977 wrote co authored a book called Ecoscience in support of a mass sterilisation program in India, forced abortions and the forced taking away of children from single mothers amongst other Hitleresque Eugenics ideas.

You can buy the book on Amazon here

Amazon.com: Ecoscience: Population, Resources, Environment (9780716700296): Paul R. Ehrlich: Books


A basic outline of their ideas is detailed below.

In a book Holdren co-authored in 1977, the man now firmly in control of science policy in this country wrote that:
Women could be forced to abort their pregnancies, whether they wanted to or not.

• The population at large could be sterilized by infertility drugs intentionally put into the nation's drinking water or in food.
• Single mothers and teen mothers should have their babies seized from them against their will and given away to other couples to raise.
• People who "contribute to social deterioration" (i.e. undesirables) "can be required by law to exercise reproductive responsibility" -- in other words, be compelled to have abortions or be sterilized.
• A transnational "Planetary Regime" should assume control of the global economy and also dictate the most intimate details of Americans' lives -- using an armed international police force.




Holdren, Ezekiel Emanuel and other members of Barak's team are putting together a modern eugenics plan.


See how they respond when challenged publicly by historian Anton Chaitkin, Ezekiel unbelievebly just says he has to be somewhere and leaves the meeting!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCYfWrg4WKY

I could go on and on, but I doubt you will follow any further, but do take a look a the links above. I assure you the program is very real indeed.

At least look at the Anton Chaitkin damning speech and Erik Pianka trying to defend himself in an interview where he clearly sounds like a fucking tool who wishes everybody dead.

But seriously, google Nazi Eugenics, then look at the public writings of Obama's science team, who are proven eugenicists, and then see how things are developing.

It IS happening.

[Kev]

Oh and here is a link to actual scans from Holdren's book, which as I said you buy on Amazon detailing his Nazi Egenicist views

John Holdren, Obama's Science Czar, says: Forced abortions and mass sterilization needed to save the planet

To repeat he is the CHIEF ADVISOR to Barak Obama IN CHARGE of population control programs.

I can prove everything I am saying just take a look.

As Chaitkin so admirably put it, they are now attempting to get us to accept a 'ceath culture' where the withdrawal of care for patients is normal.