People stop saying Floyd would beat Tito

[Bookkeeper]

I constantly see Floyd fans posting theoritical matchups of past WW greats and alway's saying that he would easily beat Trinidad P4P at WW. This is bull, Tito would have decapitated PBF, he was simply to big and to strong and to aggressive at WW to be beat by Mayweather, Trinidad was the best WW of our generation, not to mention the hardest puncher, people please stop

[chamiley]

I constantly see Floyd fans posting theoritical matchups of past WW greats and alway's saying that he would easily beat Trinidad P4P at WW. This is bull, Tito would have decapitated PBF, he was simply to big and to strong and to aggressive at WW to be beat by Mayweather, Trinidad was the best WW of our generation, not to mention the hardest puncher, people please stop

Oscar made him look foolish for 9 rounds and if Oscar's speed was too much for Trinidad, floyd would make him look like an amateur. Trinidad never fought an elite welterweight (Whitaker was beyond washed up) so you can't call him the best welterweight of our time. there is no bona fide best welterweight for our time Oscar fought trinidad, quartey & mosley, oscar beat trinidad but lost to mosley, mosley lost to forrest, forrest lost to mayorga, mayorga lost to spinks.

[Bookkeeper]

I constantly see Floyd fans posting theoritical matchups of past WW greats and alway's saying that he would easily beat Trinidad P4P at WW. This is bull, Tito would have decapitated PBF, he was simply to big and to strong and to aggressive at WW to be beat by Mayweather, Trinidad was the best WW of our generation, not to mention the hardest puncher, people please stop

Oscar made him look foolish for 9 rounds and if Oscar's speed was too much for Trinidad, floyd would make him look like an amateur. Trinidad never fought an elite welterweight (Whitaker was beyond washed up) so you can't call him the best welterweight of our time. there is no bona fide best welterweight for our time Oscar fought trinidad, quartey & mosley, oscar beat trinidad but lost to mosley, mosley lost to forrest, forrest lost to mayorga, mayorga lost to spinks.

Your joking right, I think it was Rookiefan who did the post about SCORING THE TITO VS OSCAR FIGHT thread, we all got too watch it and compare and contrast our thoughts, not a one person in the thread had Oscar winning the fight, on top of that you talk about the first 9 rounds? I don't know what fight you were watching, action was very slow for the first 4 rounds with Tito stalking Oscar all across the ring. And if Oscar did make Tito look foolish in the first 9 rounds he made himself look like a complete jackass for the final 4. Back to Floyd, even blows that partially land or that are blocked shots would even hurt Floyd against a heavy puncher like Tito. And I found it hilarious that you put MAYORGA LOST TO SPINKS at the end of your post instead of MAYORGA LOST TO TRINIDAD

[chamiley]

I constantly see Floyd fans posting theoritical matchups of past WW greats and alway's saying that he would easily beat Trinidad P4P at WW. This is bull, Tito would have decapitated PBF, he was simply to big and to strong and to aggressive at WW to be beat by Mayweather, Trinidad was the best WW of our generation, not to mention the hardest puncher, people please stop

Oscar made him look foolish for 9 rounds and if Oscar's speed was too much for Trinidad, floyd would make him look like an amateur. Trinidad never fought an elite welterweight (Whitaker was beyond washed up) so you can't call him the best welterweight of our time. there is no bona fide best welterweight for our time Oscar fought trinidad, quartey & mosley, oscar beat trinidad but lost to mosley, mosley lost to forrest, forrest lost to mayorga, mayorga lost to spinks.

Your joking right, I think it was Rookiefan who did the post about SCORING THE TITO VS OSCAR FIGHT thread, we all got too watch it and compare and contrast our thoughts, not a one person in the thread had Oscar winning the fight, on top of that you talk about the first 9 rounds? I don't know what fight you were watching, action was very slow for the first 4 rounds with Tito stalking Oscar all across the ring. And if Oscar did make Tito look foolish in the first 9 rounds he made himself look like a complete jackass for the final 4. Back to Floyd, even blows that partially land or that are blocked shots would even hurt Floyd against a heavy puncher like Tito. And I found it hilarious that you put MAYORGA LOST TO SPINKS at the end of your post instead of MAYORGA LOST TO TRINIDAD

that was at middleweight the thread was about welterweight. also I agree that oscar made himself look like a jackass and I was embarrased cheering for him when watching the fight live but Oscar himself will be most tormented by that strategy as he gave the fight of his career away, a fight he could have won easily.

[porkypara]

Floyd on points IMO.


A good boxer almost always beats a good sluger/pressure/puncher type fighter.(floyds win over Ricky reminded me of this.)

[The Rookie Fan]

I constantly see Floyd fans posting theoritical matchups of past WW greats and alway's saying that he would easily beat Trinidad P4P at WW. This is bull, Tito would have decapitated PBF, he was simply to big and to strong and to aggressive at WW to be beat by Mayweather, Trinidad was the best WW of our generation, not to mention the hardest puncher, people please stop

Oscar made him look foolish for 9 rounds and if Oscar's speed was too much for Trinidad, floyd would make him look like an amateur. Trinidad never fought an elite welterweight (Whitaker was beyond washed up) so you can't call him the best welterweight of our time. there is no bona fide best welterweight for our time Oscar fought trinidad, quartey & mosley, oscar beat trinidad but lost to mosley, mosley lost to forrest, forrest lost to mayorga, mayorga lost to spinks.

Your joking right, I think it was Rookiefan who did the post about SCORING THE TITO VS OSCAR FIGHT thread, we all got too watch it and compare and contrast our thoughts, not a one person in the thread had Oscar winning the fight, on top of that you talk about the first 9 rounds? I don't know what fight you were watching, action was very slow for the first 4 rounds with Tito stalking Oscar all across the ring. And if Oscar did make Tito look foolish in the first 9 rounds he made himself look like a complete jackass for the final 4. Back to Floyd, even blows that partially land or that are blocked shots would even hurt Floyd against a heavy puncher like Tito. And I found it hilarious that you put MAYORGA LOST TO SPINKS at the end of your post instead of MAYORGA LOST TO TRINIDAD

Thanks for the support bomber but that was Sweet Pea's thread. I was the one who started the Fresh Look at DLH vs Trinidad.

[The Rookie Fan]

I alwais wanted to start a thread on this but felt that it would be a waist of time given how hot PBF is now and how much of a frenzy his fans are in.

Thanks brazillianbomber for doing it for me CC 294 for standing by your man like I should've done.

Tito is often criticized for his performance as a Middleweight and his fight with DLH. Lets talk about that for a bit. Joppy was a champion for just about the same amount of time that Hopkins was at the time. He was just as established as Hopkins as a 160lber. He had only one loss which he avenged. He was known to be the seccond best 160lb champion. And Tito destroyed him.

Hopkins is considered by many as a top 5 middleweight ALL TIME. And he was a big 160lber. Not only that. He fought a near perfect fight against Tito. Whatch that fight. It was perfect consentration and a performance from Hopkins we have not seen often. Being seccond to Hopkins is not too bad.

As for Wright, I never really considered him a truelly great fighter. He was a defensive master but he has been beat by lesser fighters and he fought a semi active, somewhat unmotivated and unprepared Tito in what I would call a stylistic mismatch. That fight is really hard to watch for me as I could tell Tito pretty much gave up around the 5th round.

Now we go to DLH. I would go as far to say that if DLH fought like he did in the first 9 rounds against anybody, and I mean ANYBODY, he would probably be winning. Again, it is a case of someone fighting a perfect fight. And Tito still kept it close enough to pull off the W.

I got a question for you chamiley. If Tito was not the best WW of his era, than who was?

At this point, PBF has not established without a doubt that he is the best WW of his own era. I have seen nothing that Floyd has done to tell me he could beat Tito. Yes Floyd has some great skills and is an all around better boxer. But put them in the ring together and I see Tito overpowering the smaller Mayweather.

Sorry for long post. The bad thing about arguing in a forum is no one can tell you to shut up when you are babling

[superheavyrhun]

I'm not going to cast an opinion on the hypothetical fight, but why should Floyd's fans stop saying that he would beat Tito? He's undoubtedly the current leader of the p4p tables, and is a five-weight world champion. Surely that is justification enough for holding the opinion that he could win?

I'm taking a stand for free speech, and saying that Floyd's fans can continue to argue that he would beat Tito.

[bcollins]

I'm not a fan of Floyd, and I am a Tito fan - but I'd still bet that PBF boxes his way to a decision in that matchup.

You can't hurt what you can barely hit.

[SweetPea]

I constantly see Floyd fans posting theoritical matchups of past WW greats and alway's saying that he would easily beat Trinidad P4P at WW. This is bull, Tito would have decapitated PBF, he was simply to big and to strong and to aggressive at WW to be beat by Mayweather, Trinidad was the best WW of our generation, not to mention the hardest puncher, people please stop

You blast Floyd fans for saying he would beat Tito easily, and then you immediately go on to make an equally outrageous statement by claiming that Tito would decapitate Floyd.

It would not be an easy fight either way, because they're both elite fighters. But Floyd is the better boxer and therefore would likely beat Tito the majority of the time.

[The Rookie Fan]

You are right rhun. I vote for free speach as well. After all, how else would we be able to debate this great match up.

Tale of the Tape Prime 147lb Felix Trinidad vs Prime 147lb Floyd Mayweather

Trinidad Mayweather
Record: 35-0(30) 39-0(25)
Age: 26 30
Height: 5'10" 5,8"
Reach: 73 1/2" 72"
Stance: Orthodox Orthodox

[The Rookie Fan]

In the words of Thomas Hearns "I only need one shot"

The same applies here. Yes Floyd is a better boxer. Yes he has more skills. Yes Floyd should probably be ranked higher in the p4p ATG ranks. But 147 is Tito territory. His bombs could hit Mayweather's sholder all night long and still hurt him. It would be a hard fight for sure but Tito would break him down in the end. He's just too strong at that weight.

[JT Rock]

Tito has NEVER come close to fighting such an elusive target as Floyd, Whitaker was well past his best defensive prowess when they fought and no one transitions their offense from their defense as well as Mayweather does.. I see Tito getting frustrated potshotted to death and following Floyd around the ring like a Zombie similiar to Coralles(RIP) not being able to pull the trigger and maybe even getting caught by 1 or 2 flash knockdowns to further widen the defecit on points

[QUISQUEYA]

Floyd on points IMO.


A good boxer almost always beats a good sluger/pressure/puncher type fighter.(floyds win over Ricky reminded me of this.)

With all due respect, Trinidad is several leagues superior to Hatton at 147.
I know that you weren't making a direct comparison, but in Floyd-Hatton it was a great boxer vs a limited brawler. In Floyd-Trinidad, it would be a great boxer vs a great boxer/puncher.

Tito can't match Floyd in pure boxing skill, but Trinidad has A++ power at that weight. Floyd would have to be MORE cautious than he was with DLH.

[ICB]

I constantly see Floyd fans posting theoritical matchups of past WW greats and alway's saying that he would easily beat Trinidad P4P at WW. This is bull, Tito would have decapitated PBF, he was simply to big and to strong and to aggressive at WW to be beat by Mayweather, Trinidad was the best WW of our generation, not to mention the hardest puncher, people please stop

He may or may not beat Tito, but whats wrong in people thinking Mayweather could beat Tito ?? remember Tito is 1 dimensional and Mayweather works out his opponent's after a few rounds so that would be a problem straight way for Tito.

A plus side for Tito is that he picks his punches very well, and he uses controlled aggression that would give Mayweather problems. Similar to how Castillo's patient aggression worked. But Mayweather is a much better all round fighter than Tito, and to say he would decapitate someone as skilled as Mayweather is even more ludicrous, than the comments you complain about.