If You Could Know Real Fact's About Boxing What Would They Be ??

[ICB]

I'll start us off.

Did Charles Burley really spark out Robinson twice ??

What was in Aaron Pryor's bottle ??

Did Liston really take a dive ??

[Julius Rain]

that ali punch on liston was something he would of usually just smiled at but it seem to have crushed him. Donno if the fight was rigged but I'd like to know.

also....

did roy jones and shane mosley really take steroids.i doubt it

did tyson really rape that women...i doubt it.

[LEGION]

O.k. Ice, maybe you can help. There was a young kat who got beat up pretty bad in a fight back in the 80's, a white kid, and after the fight when the corners were shaking hands, the cornerman{I think the kids dad} went ballistic and said the other guy had his gloves stuffing taken out and he could feel the knuckles. Supposedly the glloves were doctored or something strange with the gloves happened during a few days time. Sorry I forget the fighters names, but I think it was an undercard to a big fight. Did they ever really find out about the gloves or what happened. I think the "victim"{for lack of a better word} died in a car accident. Help me out on the names and maybe what really happened?

[Scrap]

Do some Refs take bungs. Do judges look to favour the promoters fighter so they will get invited back.

[LEGION]

I think it was un undercard for a Duran fight if that helps

[DaxxKahn]

Was there anything in Dempseys glove when he pummeled Willard??

Did Jack Johnson really get KO'd by Willard or did he just lay down (hence the thoery where Johnson shaded his eyes from the sun during the count)

[CutMeMick]

O.k. Ice, maybe you can help. There was a young kat who got beat up pretty bad in a fight back in the 80's, a white kid, and after the fight when the corners were shaking hands, the cornerman{I think the kids dad} went ballistic and said the other guy had his gloves stuffing taken out and he could feel the knuckles. Supposedly the glloves were doctored or something strange with the gloves happened during a few days time. Sorry I forget the fighters names, but I think it was an undercard to a big fight. Did they ever really find out about the gloves or what happened. I think the "victim"{for lack of a better word} died in a car accident. Help me out on the names and maybe what really happened?

Sadly I know exactly what fight your talking about.
I have the fight and it's one of those fights that I always talk about that I just can't seen.
Billy Collins Jr. vs. Luis Resto.
I'm getting chills as I'm typing this cause I've seen the ending of the fight when Resto is shaking hands with Collins Sr. and Sr. righ away has suspision that something is up. A small comosion breaks out as Sr. begins to feel Restos glove Resto tries to pull his hand away from Sr. but it's too late Sr. immidiately calls on the commisioner and the piece of shit behind this cowardless act Panama begins to pull Resto away and even tries to make him leave the ring before they announce the winner. But they are told not to leave. You can here Panamas stupid ass in the back saying 'These are the gloves you gave us, these are the gloves you gave us' yeah! you fucken bastard but you removed some padding from them.
Really sad fight.
Both Panama & Luis were banned from boxing indefinetely.
Resto was convicted with assault, conspiracy and assual with a deadly weappon. He served 2 and half years in prison he was senteced for 3.

Matter a fact I just remembered that their this little short video about this fight I think they made an independent film on it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkwr_xoXTKg

[LEGION]

O.k. Ice, maybe you can help. There was a young kat who got beat up pretty bad in a fight back in the 80's, a white kid, and after the fight when the corners were shaking hands, the cornerman{I think the kids dad} went ballistic and said the other guy had his gloves stuffing taken out and he could feel the knuckles. Supposedly the glloves were doctored or something strange with the gloves happened during a few days time. Sorry I forget the fighters names, but I think it was an undercard to a big fight. Did they ever really find out about the gloves or what happened. I think the "victim"{for lack of a better word} died in a car accident. Help me out on the names and maybe what really happened?

Sadly I know exactly what fight your talking about.
I have the fight and it's one of those fights that I always talk about that I just can't seen.
Billy Collins Jr. vs. Luis Resto.
I'm getting chills as I'm typing this cause I've seen the ending of the fight when Resto is shaking hands with Collins Sr. and Sr. righ away has suspision that something is up. A small comosion breaks out as Sr. begins to feel Restos glove Resto tries to pull his hand away from Sr. but it's too late Sr. immidiately calls on the commisioner and the piece of S*** behind this cowardless act Panama begins to pull Resto away and even tries to make him leave the ring before they announce the winner. But they are told not to leave. You can here Panamas stupid a** in the back saying 'These are the gloves you gave us, these are the gloves you gave us' yeah! you fucken B****** but you removed some padding from them.
Really sad fight. Matter a fact I just remembered that their this little short video about this fight I think they made an independent film on it.

Billy Collins; that's it. Thanks Mick and CC Any info on what the real story was on the gloves or should I just google it? Thanks again.

[Hulk]

Was Mike Tyson scared of an Old George Foreman and is that why they never fought?

[ICB]

O.k. Ice, maybe you can help. There was a young kat who got beat up pretty bad in a fight back in the 80's, a white kid, and after the fight when the corners were shaking hands, the cornerman{I think the kids dad} went ballistic and said the other guy had his gloves stuffing taken out and he could feel the knuckles. Supposedly the glloves were doctored or something strange with the gloves happened during a few days time. Sorry I forget the fighters names, but I think it was an undercard to a big fight. Did they ever really find out about the gloves or what happened. I think the "victim"{for lack of a better word} died in a car accident. Help me out on the names and maybe what really happened?

Sadly I know exactly what fight your talking about.
I have the fight and it's one of those fights that I always talk about that I just can't seen.
Billy Collins Jr. vs. Luis Resto.
I'm getting chills as I'm typing this cause I've seen the ending of the fight when Resto is shaking hands with Collins Sr. and Sr. righ away has suspision that something is up. A small comosion breaks out as Sr. begins to feel Restos glove Resto tries to pull his hand away from Sr. but it's too late Sr. immidiately calls on the commisioner and the piece of S*** behind this cowardless act Panama begins to pull Resto away and even tries to make him leave the ring before they announce the winner. But they are told not to leave. You can here Panamas stupid a** in the back saying 'These are the gloves you gave us, these are the gloves you gave us' yeah! you fucken B****** but you removed some padding from them.
Really sad fight.
Both Panama & Luis were banned from boxing indefinetely.
Resto was convicted with assault, conspiracy and assual with a deadly weappon. He served 2 and half years in prison he was senteced for 3.

Matter a fact I just remembered that their this little short video about this fight I think they made an independent film on it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkwr_xoXTKg

I remember hearing about that interesting story.

[CutMeMick]

O.k. Ice, maybe you can help. There was a young kat who got beat up pretty bad in a fight back in the 80's, a white kid, and after the fight when the corners were shaking hands, the cornerman{I think the kids dad} went ballistic and said the other guy had his gloves stuffing taken out and he could feel the knuckles. Supposedly the glloves were doctored or something strange with the gloves happened during a few days time. Sorry I forget the fighters names, but I think it was an undercard to a big fight. Did they ever really find out about the gloves or what happened. I think the "victim"{for lack of a better word} died in a car accident. Help me out on the names and maybe what really happened?

Sadly I know exactly what fight your talking about.
I have the fight and it's one of those fights that I always talk about that I just can't seen.
Billy Collins Jr. vs. Luis Resto.
I'm getting chills as I'm typing this cause I've seen the ending of the fight when Resto is shaking hands with Collins Sr. and Sr. righ away has suspision that something is up. A small comosion breaks out as Sr. begins to feel Restos glove Resto tries to pull his hand away from Sr. but it's too late Sr. immidiately calls on the commisioner and the piece of S*** behind this cowardless act Panama begins to pull Resto away and even tries to make him leave the ring before they announce the winner. But they are told not to leave. You can here Panamas stupid a** in the back saying 'These are the gloves you gave us, these are the gloves you gave us' yeah! you fucken B****** but you removed some padding from them.
Really sad fight. Matter a fact I just remembered that their this little short video about this fight I think they made an independent film on it.

Billy Collins; that's it. Thanks Mick and CC Any info on what the real story was on the gloves or should I just google it? Thanks again.

I added more stuff to my previous post.
But in short the NYSAC did find that the gloves had been tampered with and as stated above both Panama & Luis were banned from boxing.

Which is why without a single doubt in my mind do I doubt that he did put something in Aarons drink.

[LEGION]

Thanks Mick, I saw your edit. This has been driving me crazy, but this thread actually was perfect for me to ask a question with vague details and not feel dumb about it

[CutMeMick]

Thanks Mick, I saw your edit. This has been driving me crazy, but this thread actually was perfect for me to ask a question with vague details and not feel dumb about it

I would say theirs no such thing as a dumb question but I've been proved wrong before.

[CutMeMick]

Shit! I think I'll be here all night.


1. Did Kim really write "Kill or be killed" in his bathroom mirror?
2. Why did the WBC & WBA refuse to recognize Zamora-Zarate as a unification bout?
3. Why hasn't Condes-Rachman 1, been overturned if the score were wrong?
4. Did Gatti really hurt his shoulder that many times in the fights or was he just adding to the drama?
5. Did Marciano loose a fight under a different alias?
6. Was McClellan already injured prior to the Benn fight?
7. How much money did the judges get paid to award Gainer a decision over Navarro?
8. Was Tito Sr. ilegally wrapping Titos hands?
9. Has Koshimoto woken up from Norwoods devastating KO?
10. Was Foreman really scared of Ali?
11. Why did 'Maestrito' throw his talent away?
12. What haunts Tapia the most?
13. How much money did Sulaiman make after robbing Muniz from the titles when he beat Napoles?
14. Why didn't Hagler just shut his mouth and rematch SRL?
15. What was Larry Holmes thinking as he was running on top of the car?

[ICB]

I can answer your last one and thats because Berbick was shooting his mouth off about Holmes wife and kids.