Mayweather Ortiz - should it be a DQ?

[J_C]

This is pretty straightforward as I can see it. EITHER...

Cortez told them to box on or whatever and so Victor just didnt defend himself cos he was trying to say sorry and got done. Floyd wins by KO.

OR

Cortez hadnt told them to continue boxing and thus Mayweather should be DQ'd. Ortiz wins by DQ.

Anyone care to add?

[CFH]

Cortez is incompetent, but by the letter of the law you can't dq Mayweather. It was pathetic though, Floyd should be much better than that.

[SalTheButcher]

cortez has no idea whats going on anymore, but what mayweather did was legal


i dont know if the clock was still stopped tho

[J_C]

I just saw a replay of the whole thing actually. Cortez does say either 'Lets Go' or 'Box On'. So Ortiz just fucked up. Mayweather did a bit of a bitch move in a sense BUT Ortiz had just headbutted him so im kinda with Floyd in a way. Either way its a legit KO by the rules.

[SalTheButcher]

I just saw a replay of the whole thing actually. Cortez does say either 'Lets Go' or 'Box On'. So Ortiz just fucked up. Mayweather did a bit of a bitch move in a sense BUT Ortiz had just headbutted him so im kinda with Floyd in a way. Either way its a legit KO by the rules.

im pretty sure at the very least cortez had already called for the clock to be restarted (unless he forgot to stop it in the first place)


i think the clock being stopped would be the only scenario that would possibly change the result, but even then it would probably just be changed to a NC



ortiz had tried headbutting about 4 times before that tho, so he brought it upon himslef, if u wanna headbutt learn to be shady about it

[Gandalf]

It was some of the worst conduct I have ever seen. I want to change my sig from 'I'm gay' to 'I'm a total cunt'. That was disgusting and I am fuming right now.

Cortez and Mayweather once again team up and spoil the entire boxing world.

And Floyds attitude with Merchant was appalling. Floyd needs more than a slap and at least 10 more headbutts. The best way to get him is to take his purse.

The incident needs to be investigated and the result possibly overturned. Cortez simply stood and watched. He should at least have given Ortiz time to recover. It was a cheap shot and nothing more.

What a fucking farce!

[J_C]

Ortiz butts Floyd.

Cortez calls TIME TIME to stop the clock.

Docks a point from Ortiz.

Says 'Lets Go' whilst motioning both fighters in with his hands.

Ortiz apologises and hugs Floyd whilst Cortez is looking towards the timekeeper.

Floyd knocks Ortiz the fuck out whilst Cortez is still looking at the timekeeper.


Im genuinely not sure Ortiz ever heard Cortez saying Lets go, I think he was too busy thinking about apologising and saying sorry to Floyd etc. Why else would he turn to Cortez after the 1st punch Floyd lands?

[Gandalf]

Ortiz butts Floyd.

Cortez calls TIME TIME to stop the clock.

Docks a point from Ortiz.

Says 'Lets Go' whilst motioning both fighters in with his hands.

Ortiz apologises and hugs Floyd whilst Cortez is looking towards the timekeeper.

Floyd knocks Ortiz the fuck out whilst Cortez is still looking at the timekeeper.


Im genuinely not sure Ortiz ever heard Cortez saying Lets go, I think he was too busy thinking about apologising and saying sorry to Floyd etc. Why else would he turn to Cortez after the 1st punch Floyd lands?

Because he was gobsmacked that he had been sucker punched, he looked to the ref to jump in. Cortez stood there doing nothing but gawping and then counted the poor sod out after getting another one.

[Kev]

It was some of the worst conduct I have ever seen. I want to change my sig from 'I'm gay' to 'I'm a total cunt'. That was disgusting and I am fuming right now.

Cortez and Mayweather once again team up and spoil the entire boxing world.

And Floyds attitude with Merchant was appalling. Floyd needs more than a slap and at least 10 more headbutts. The best way to get him is to take his purse.

The incident needs to be investigated and the result possibly overturned. Cortez simply stood and watched. He should at least have given Ortiz time to recover. It was a cheap shot and nothing more.

What a fucking farce!

Going off on Merchant was disgraceful imo. He's a really old man and that probably caused him a lot of stress.

[jabvargas24]

Ortiz butts Floyd.

Cortez calls TIME TIME to stop the clock.

Docks a point from Ortiz.

Says 'Lets Go' whilst motioning both fighters in with his hands.

Ortiz apologises and hugs Floyd whilst Cortez is looking towards the timekeeper.

Floyd knocks Ortiz the fuck out whilst Cortez is still looking at the timekeeper.


Im genuinely not sure Ortiz ever heard Cortez saying Lets go, I think he was too busy thinking about apologising and saying sorry to Floyd etc. Why else would he turn to Cortez after the 1st punch Floyd lands?

Dont forget the cheap shots Ortiz got in after the butt.

[kishoph]

What a piece of Shit Floyd Mayweather is, what a sucker punch, the ref never even told them to box and he pulled that Shit. I'm disappointed at ORTIZ that he hugged him after the fight, he should of beat him over the head with a chair.
LARRY MERCHANT said if he was 50 years younger he'd kick his Ass. What another black eye for boxing, Mayweather should be stripped of everything and banned for life for what he pulled. I would love to see PACQUIAO kill that piece of Shit. COTEZ didn't tell them to box, he was looking at the corner and you could see his shock when he looked back at the fighters.

[fan johnny]

Ortiz butts Floyd.

Cortez calls TIME TIME to stop the clock.

Docks a point from Ortiz.

Says 'Lets Go' whilst motioning both fighters in with his hands.

Ortiz apologises and hugs Floyd whilst Cortez is looking towards the timekeeper.

Floyd knocks Ortiz the fuck out whilst Cortez is still looking at the timekeeper.


Im genuinely not sure Ortiz ever heard Cortez saying Lets go, I think he was too busy thinking about apologising and saying sorry to Floyd etc. Why else would he turn to Cortez after the 1st punch Floyd lands?

I saw an attempted butt but not a successful one. I could be wrong but I didn't see it land.

[Gandalf]

It was some of the worst conduct I have ever seen. I want to change my sig from 'I'm gay' to 'I'm a total cunt'. That was disgusting and I am fuming right now.

Cortez and Mayweather once again team up and spoil the entire boxing world.

And Floyds attitude with Merchant was appalling. Floyd needs more than a slap and at least 10 more headbutts. The best way to get him is to take his purse.

The incident needs to be investigated and the result possibly overturned. Cortez simply stood and watched. He should at least have given Ortiz time to recover. It was a cheap shot and nothing more.

What a fucking farce!

Going off on Merchant was disgraceful imo. He's a really old man and that probably caused him a lot of stress.

And it isn't the first time Floyd has had a go at him. Merchant is fair IMO and will ask the questions, but evasive little Floyd doesn't like it, so just gets nasty. Merchant's response was heroic though. Poor old chap, I hope he is able to unwind okay tonight.

[Dizaster]

As Cortez said continue, Floyd wins without breaking any rule... Simple...

But i'm thinking even if Cortez didn't call time in, it still wouldn't be instant DQ for Floyd and the fight handed to Ortiz... I would have thought that if it went different and Ortiz got up after a floyd punch outside time, then Floyd would have lost a point as well.. Not been instantly disqualified...

But the fight was stopped because the punch KO'd him.. If it was an illegal punch, the best it would be is a No Contest maybe? ie it's not an act that gets you instantly DQ.... punching before a ref says box.?

[J_C]

The butt definitely landed. Floyd had a bleeding mouth from it.