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    Default Beginner, need some advice

    Alright fellas, im not a boxer, iv recently started krav maga, if you haven't heard of it, its basically a system of mixed arts, the stand up side being based more on boxing (the founder was a champion boxer i think)

    Well, iv recently got a heavy bag to practice my techniques. I wanna start of slow, build up a good technique foundation before i start putting power in my punches, only problem is I know nothing about correct boxing technique (in class, the emphasis is more on self defence with short nasty blows rather than practicing correct form for hours) which is fair enough, but i'v always loved boxing and wanna get the techniques right.

    I was hoping i could get some advice on the the straight jab, right punch, left hook and right hook (im right handed) with regards to using feet, legs, shoulders and hips correctly.

    Iv read a few articles online about these techniques, but their all conflicting, for example.

    Straight left jab and right jab:
    Are the feet planted full during these or does the front (or back) foot slightly raise and twist on the front below the toes or the fully on the heel? and how should the legs be positioned?

    Hooks:
    Apart from twisting the hips and legs, should the feet be planted or should you slightly raise off just below the toes? and if throwing a lead hand hook from a longer distance, should you twist out your centre line as well?

    One thing i have trouble understanding, with all of the above, jabs, crosses, hooks, how do you correctly step into your opponent using them?

    These are just example of conflicting stuff iv read, any or all advice on how to perform them correctly using the entire body would be greatly appreciated.

    With power, does it come from speed, weight, or both? and when throwing jabs and right cross's, should you lean forward or not lean forward?

    Another thing is, in krav, most punches is done from a neutral stance, like just standing normally for self defence purposes, can all the techniques be possible from this stance or does it have to be a boxing stance?

    Thanks for reading if you managed to get this far haha, do appreciate any advice at all.
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    Default Re: Beginner, need some advice

    Quote Originally Posted by BangoSkank View Post
    Alright fellas, im not a boxer, iv recently started krav maga, if you haven't heard of it, its basically a system of mixed arts, the stand up side being based more on boxing (the founder was a champion boxer i think)

    Well, iv recently got a heavy bag to practice my techniques. I wanna start of slow, build up a good technique foundation before i start putting power in my punches, only problem is I know nothing about correct boxing technique (in class, the emphasis is more on self defence with short nasty blows rather than practicing correct form for hours) which is fair enough, but i'v always loved boxing and wanna get the techniques right.

    I was hoping i could get some advice on the the straight jab, right punch, left hook and right hook (im right handed) with regards to using feet, legs, shoulders and hips correctly.

    Iv read a few articles online about these techniques, but their all conflicting, for example.

    Straight left jab and right jab:
    Are the feet planted full during these or does the front (or back) foot slightly raise and twist on the front below the toes or the fully on the heel? and how should the legs be positioned?

    Hooks:
    Apart from twisting the hips and legs, should the feet be planted or should you slightly raise off just below the toes? and if throwing a lead hand hook from a longer distance, should you twist out your centre line as well?

    One thing i have trouble understanding, with all of the above, jabs, crosses, hooks, how do you correctly step into your opponent using them?

    These are just example of conflicting stuff iv read, any or all advice on how to perform them correctly using the entire body would be greatly appreciated.

    With power, does it come from speed, weight, or both? and when throwing jabs and right cross's, should you lean forward or not lean forward?

    Another thing is, in krav, most punches is done from a neutral stance, like just standing normally for self defence purposes, can all the techniques be possible from this stance or does it have to be a boxing stance?

    Thanks for reading if you managed to get this far haha, do appreciate any advice at all.
    Are you talking one leg forward one back from your opponent?
    Or do you mean square shouldered and hips and feet under shoulders with your opponent in the middle of you? (some styles call that neutral) like if you were about shake someones hand.

    If so, then that is probably used in the beginning just to emphasize the possibilities and pros and cons of your style from that point, I doubt you could last long or generate power fast enough remaining in a real neutral stance.
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    Default Re: Beginner, need some advice

    Hi^ mate great you are wanting to learn the tequiniques but I ask. In your sport or martial arts I's it vest to have tequinigue ? As you say it's just big bombs anyway il try my best

    Hooks:
    it's more of a shift of weight if your right handard, your left foot should be forward , with this you shift your weight onto your left leg and hips that way , little dip in the knee and your hook should come naturally , your right foot will be slightly raised onto your toes and that should turn slightly with you, people decvelop bad habits / slightly change technique but that was the way I was tough 12 years ago

    Jab:
    Jab I's the easiest to learn, straight out straight back to your chin. No dip in out, do it slow to get used to bring back to your chin, don't drop the right hand while you do it.

    Right hand: straight right I's all in the hips, follow through with your hand, think about going through the bag, right foot should be pivoted while you go through with your hips, shoulders should turn with it.


    Hope iv helped it's hard to ecplain without doing it lol, (I'm southpaw (left handard)

    Goodluck

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    Default Re: Beginner, need some advice

    Hi mate
    its very important to involve the feet hips and shoulders into your punches, and make sure you are fully extending the arms on your straight punches (without locking out the elbows) also dont ignore the 'feel' of your punch - go for the effortless, loose power instead of the ridgid 'pushy' feel (if that makes sense?)

    if you've got an iPhone try this free app App Store - Mobile Boxing Coach
    there loads of vids in it and some free workouts for you to develop your tecs on the punch bag
    cheers and good luck

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    Default Re: Beginner, need some advice

    You can read every book, watch every video, watch every fight, but there is no substitution for having a boxing trainer working with you. You need him stading there watching you, picking up on not only the major forms and techniques, but to spot those little mistakes, telegraph signals, improper everythings. You can do this on the side if you have no interest in boxing and are going into another form of martial arts. I see more and more MMA fighters who are weak in boxing and defense techniques, who would be better fighters if they had been trained properly. An MMA instructor does not expect me to teach MMA, and I do not expect them to teach boxing...but between the two of us, we can turn out a more effective fighter. Just food for thought.

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