I don't like the matchmaking these days!

[ykdadamaja]

Do you?

Hey, guys...

I don't like today's matchmaking. It's lackluster, meaningless. The fights mean absolutely nothing aside from a belt, which means next to nothing unless you are willing to unify.

We need better matchmaking, particularly in the USA. Britain can do a bit better and Germany and Eastern Europe, quite frankly, are promoting guys who no one knows aside from them.

Chris John hasn't fought anyone of note lately; Andre Ward can't get a fight, although he gets high marks for his fight against a weight drained Dawson; Broner is fine with just skating by; Direll is on the shelf; Mayweather has no one to fight EXCEPT for Manny; Wlad is just, well...; and the rest of the Heavyweight, Super Middle Weight and Middle Weight guys are scared shitless to take REAL fights.

I don't know man, I don't know?!!? It seems like today's matchmaking, when we compare the top names vs. the guys they faced, or are rumoured to face, doesn't leave much to be desired.

What say ye??

[walrus]

I agree to an extent. Especially when they try to manufacture superstars as I feel is being done with Broner and even Canelo to an extent. The way the judges scored Canelo in a few fights pre Floyd made it seem like he was preordained to win. Some match ups seen to be made for domination by one, not competition by two, but then, some times you get those wonderful moments like JCC jr and his last fight, I wish set ups like those would happen more often. As far as the Heavyweight schedule, I don't get what's going on their at all.

[Max Power]

It's the money and the promoters. More divisions, more belts and more belt holders ununified generates more money than one champ per division with less divisions.

That leads further to prospect protectionism, fighters bumming their way to 30-0, cashing out in 1 or 2 big fights at the end of a hyped up rainbow.

Usually the fighters get the blame but modern training and recovery principles and fighters larger purses are only the lesser part of it. It's the fight industry making the real money doing the real damage.

[Ron Swanson]

While I agree in that I would like to see the best against the best at all times you have to understand this has happened all through history. From fighters not fighting the available black opponents to even greatss padding their records. Compare JCC and Broner to equal points in their careers and Broner appears to have taken on a murderers row. Part of the issue is simply our mentality these days. We are hyper critical. You used to get credit for taking on a top 20 opponent, now if you aren't fighting the other top 6-8 guys you get slammed. And that's partially justified by how seldom guys fight now. If you're only fighting 2/3 times a year you should be fighting the other top guys. Historically though it's rare to see all the best against the best, that's why we remember and praise eras like that of the 4 horsemen because it is rare. Part of the issue is simply depth. Wlad has taken on everyone out there just as Ali did Ali happened to be around in an era of great heavyweights though so he heaps the praise.

Speaking of that heavyweight era I find it curious that suddenly a huge number of top guys popped up right as steroids began running rampant throughout the NFL and nobody seems to be suspect of that era. It seems a very logical question to raise but I've never seen it brought up.

[ykdadamaja]

But, take this for consideration: It has gotten so bad that a fight we should be building towards, a Broner vs. Garcia fight, just won't happen anytime soon and we know it. I mean, like... wtf?!!?

[ykdadamaja]

... take these also for example: Wilder vs. Jennings/Fury/Haye/Arreola, just won't happen and we have to ask: "Why won't it happen?"....

I think, finally, Mayweather vs. Pac-man is gonna happen. Even if we have to wait for the last fight on Mayweather's contract. But I feel it will happen.

Thurman vs. Garcia also make sense. We just won't see it soon. I just don't understand why not?!?!

[Addicted to_boxing]

... take these also for example: Wilder vs. Jennings/Fury/Haye/Arreola, just won't happen and we have to ask: "Why won't it happen?"....

I think, finally, Mayweather vs. Pac-man is gonna happen. Even if we have to wait for the last fight on Mayweather's contract. But I feel it



will happen.

Thurman vs. Garcia also make sense. We just won't see it soon. I just don't understand why not?!?!

outside of Pac fans no one wants to see a Money fight. Losing to JMM the way he did killed the idea and demolished his invincibility . Then he gets rewarded with a huuuuuge payday vs an average Rios also coming off a loss. This is another black eye with what's wrong with boxing. This is obviously a fixing for a 100 million dollar fight vs Mayweather . The question is who controls the bought decision. Either way both will be laughing all the way to the bank in what I think will be a real stinker of a fight . All the people will be questioning what the "F" they were thinking and regretting the money they shelled out as in all of Mayweathers fights. A draw would be poetic justice to all us die hard boxing fans that refuse to accept the sport is now Lucha Libre / Staged wrestling caliber entertainment.

[Gandalf]

What's wrong with Manny fighting Rios? He has been out a year and was KTFO. Rios is a fair enough opponent considering that those two points. In saying that though, I have no interest in seeing Manny against Mayweather now. Not that Mayweather is any better, but both are past their best and so the lustre is gone.

[ykdadamaja]

What's wrong with Manny fighting Rios? He has been out a year and was KTFO. Rios is a fair enough opponent considering that those two points. In saying that though, I have no interest in seeing Manny against Mayweather now. Not that Mayweather is any better, but both are past their best and so the lustre is gone.

When the fight hype happens, you are gonna be glued to the set just like everyone else. Even go to the weigh-in if given half a chance.

[walrus]

What's wrong with Manny fighting Rios? He has been out a year and was KTFO. Rios is a fair enough opponent considering that those two points. In saying that though, I have no interest in seeing Manny against Mayweather now. Not that Mayweather is any better, but both are past their best and so the lustre is gone.

When the fight hype happens, you are gonna be glued to the set just like everyone else. Even go to the weigh-in if given half a chance.

Agreed, some people are excited about a Floyd v Khan. Granted Manny v Floyd does not glimmer as it once did but it would be much more interesting than any of Floyd's last ten fights.

[Addicted to_boxing]

[QUOTE=ykdadamaja;1202397]

What's wrong with Manny fighting Rios? He has been out a year and was KTFO. Rios is a fair enough opponent considering that those two points. In saying that though, I have no interest in seeing Manny against Mayweather now. Not that Mayweather is any better, but both are past their best and so the
When the fight hype happens, you are gonna be glued to the set just like everyone else. Even go to the weigh-in if given half a chance.

Not for that kind of purse and a chance to gain a belt for a couple of guys that just got their asses handed to them.

[Gandalf]

What's wrong with Manny fighting Rios? He has been out a year and was KTFO. Rios is a fair enough opponent considering that those two points. In saying that though, I have no interest in seeing Manny against Mayweather now. Not that Mayweather is any better, but both are past their best and so the lustre is gone.

When the fight hype happens, you are gonna be glued to the set just like everyone else. Even go to the weigh-in if given half a chance.

I will watch it like any other fight, but it holds no more appeal than most others. It's not as though I even have the option of paying PPV, so it really wouldn't be any different to any other fight.

[Gandalf]

[QUOTE=Addicted to_boxing;1202472]

What's wrong with Manny fighting Rios? He has been out a year and was KTFO. Rios is a fair enough opponent considering that those two points. In saying that though, I have no interest in seeing Manny against Mayweather now. Not that Mayweather is any better, but both are past their best and so the
When the fight hype happens, you are gonna be glued to the set just like everyone else. Even go to the weigh-in if given half a chance.

Not for that kind of purse and a chance to gain a belt for a couple of guys that just got their asses handed to them.

A man coming back off a massive knock out loss should hardly be coming back against Floyd Mayweather should he now. I don't see your problem. Fighters usually take a tune up after a year out and being heavily concussed.

[Addicted to_boxing]

[QUOTE=Gandalf;1202539]

What's wrong with Manny fighting Rios? He has been out a year and was KTFO. Rios is a fair enough opponent considering that those two points. In saying that though, I have no interest in seeing Manny against Mayweather now. Not that Mayweather is any better, but both are past their best and so the
When the fight hype happens, you are gonna be glued to the set just like everyone else. Even go to the weigh-in if given half a chance.

Not for that kind of purse and a chance to gain a belt for a couple of guys that just got their asses handed to them.

A man coming back off a massive knock out loss should hardly be coming back against Floyd Mayweather should he now. I don't see your problem. Fighters usually take a tune up after a year out and being heavily concussed.

I agree a tune up not handed the ability to be a world champ.

[Galaxy]

I have to disagree with the thread title

2013 has presented many great match-ups & fights

Sure there are those fighters that are taking the easy route, but many more are choosing to prove themselves against the best