NO fighter in history attacked Naz and left the ring without help. After last night there's not a serious boxing fan on earth that can argue Pac doesn't get annihilated by the rocket launchers. Fact.
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Pac-Naz - we now have definitve proof. Fact.
NO fighter in history attacked Naz and left the ring without help. After last night there's not a serious boxing fan on earth that can argue Pac doesn't get annihilated by the rocket launchers. Fact.
That is all.
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It probably says more about how much Hamed couldn't even hold Marquez's piss glass.
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Well that maybe so, Adam
But you can't deny we now have concrete evidence that Pac storming forward against a counter puncher, especially with the devastating power and timing of Naz, is a recipe for disaster?
It's borderline impossible to make a case for Pac beating Naz. Lets be honest.
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Pac is no Kevin Kelly, that's for sure.
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In all seriousness, there's nothing to suggest Hamed wouldn't have had a good(hypothetical) chance against either Pacquiao or Marquez, while they were still operating at or below 130 pounds. Naz and Pacquiao at that weight would have been a tremendous stlystic matchup to boot.
What we do know is that Naseem never stuck around long enough to give any indication of whether he could've climbed up in weight and still been effective, much less dominant. Last night was a fight between two great welterweights, Hamed never showed anything to suggest he could've lived with either of these men in their present form. What Manny and Marquez have both done over the last few years is nothing short of incredible, fact.
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Marquez would prob beat Naz.
If pac and naz did fight would it simply be a case of who ever got hit first would be going down?
The tree trunk legs of both these fighters is crazy.
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this is in actual fact a fact
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I always thought JMM had the style to beat Naz which was why he was avoided. Against Manny Pac that would be a pick em and I would go for Naz.
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Naz would have bombed out Marquez too. AS great as Marquez is, he's been down around 10 million times during his career
You go down against Naz..... it's over.
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Marquez has proven to be right up there with the great MAB.
Only thing different about a JMM-Naz fight is JMM would've introduced Naz to the other corner post.
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I think Marquez has surpassed the great Barrera.
However, any boxing expert, especially one versed in the technical artistry of the sport, can only envisage one winner with prime Naz countering his bombs against those exposed bonces.
Marquez would have lasted longer than Pac, but ultimately it's impossible to see either of these serial canvas victims getting past 3. Against old Naz Marquez might have gone the distance. Pac would have still gone in 3. It's just basic undeniable logic.
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Au contraire, mod. Naz's undisciplined style and awkwardly thrown shots would've been tailor-made for the counterpunching Marquez. The seasoned pro (JMM) would be drooling all over himself waiting for Naz to hang himself out to dry... only to potshot the shit out of him. Not one to be impressed by the gangly, hands-down approach of Naz... Marquez, (in his own right a very patient fighter)... would eventually tag Naz and put him down. The fact that Marquez has tasted canvas before is of little or no consequence. Pac put him down 3 times in the first round of their first fight. Marquez survived the round, and went on to dominate the last half of the fight, earning him a draw.
Only question in my mind is whether it would be a neutral corner post, JMM's corner post, or Naz's own corner post..... or whether JMM would go for the trifecta.
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I have to conclude from the sound logic in this thread that Hamed would have ruined MAB too.
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Look, I'm just basing this factual reasoning on pure statistcal verified data.
Naz had a 100% knockdown to knockout conversation rate at featherweight. That is a fact. Marquez hit the canvas numerous times at featherweight, let alone other weights. Therefore the stats indicate Naz, who was P4P one of the hardest punchers ever, KO's Marquez.
Marquez is a greater fighter than Naz in the grand scheme of things. But even if Naz knocked him spark out, which is highly likely, it wouldn't have altered Marquez high postion in boxing. Fact.
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Cesar Soto went the full 12 with Hamed. The same Cesar Soto who was stopped in 1 round by Adrian Valdez. Sounds to me like you trying to say Hamed isn't the fighter Valdez was. Interesting.Originally Posted by Fenster
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