Boxers don't know how to get inside anymore

[brocktonblockbust]

thus, the 2 pieces of GARBAGE named Vitali and Wladmimir---and now the NEW GARBAGE called Beyonce wilder----- have decent success because boxers are afraid to get inside after tasting a hard counter shot as they come into range.

WHERE ARE THE BOBBING, WEAVING, CROUCHING JOE FRAZIERS, ROCKY MARCIANOS, WHERE ARE THE SLICKLY BOBBING MIKE TYSONS? There are no more boxers willing to take some punishment to GET INSIDE on these BIG OAFS, IDIOTS, LAME EXCUSES FOR BOXERS.

Boxers dont know how to get inside anymore, or their purse isnt enough to go through the pain to do it.

[Sleepwalker]

It's a byproduct of American society becoming more finesse and it has permeated through boxing and sports as a whole. Boxers don't want to get close and grind it out. 7ft basketball players want to linger around the 3pt line, NFL wide receivers don't want to block or come across the middle, etc.

Boys these days aren't being raised by construction workers and factory assembly men anymore.

[brocktonblockbust]

It's a byproduct of American society becoming more finesse and it has permeated through boxing and sports as a whole. Boxers don't want to get close and grind it out. 7ft basketball players want to linger around the 3pt line, NFL wide receivers don't want to block or come across the middle, etc.

Boys these days aren't being raised by construction workers and factory assembly men anymore.

EXCELLENT POINTS, PERFECT EXPLANATION. Its the decline of human beings I always said.

[Ron Swanson]

It's a byproduct of American society becoming more finesse and it has permeated through boxing and sports as a whole. Boxers don't want to get close and grind it out. 7ft basketball players want to linger around the 3pt line, NFL wide receivers don't want to block or come across the middle, etc.

Boys these days aren't being raised by construction workers and factory assembly men anymore.

I don't think the basketball analogy is fair because rule changes have all but eliminated the true big man. With the defensive 3 second rule a big man with a big body to play true post simply isn't quick enough to cover the ground. As for going across the middle or blocking I'm not sure what you speak of, receivers go across the middle on every play. And there are many great blockers in the league.

But I agree with the sentiment if not all the details.

[brocktonblockbust]

[jahmez]

Sucks when you see guys actually find their way inside but they just earmuff and throw slappy hooks. Guys like Toney and papa Chavez made inside fighting majestic violence at its finest.

[brocktonblockbust]

Sucks when you see guys actually find their way inside but they just earmuff and throw slappy hooks. Guys like Toney and papa Chavez made inside fighting majestic violence at its finest.

yes indeed. great points. they get inside and then do nothing. maddening. I see flanks and livers and kidneys and hips and ribs wide open, fully exposed, and no punishing shots coming at all.

Remember how Marciano would get inside? A thing of beauty.

[mikeeod]

Refs break guys too fast now on the inside. JCC, Toney, Hagler...etc. would work the guy over with their free hand and position the guy to take more punishment. Now it is the extreme. A ref will either break the second they touch, or let the guys go full UFC like Hatton, Ruiz...etc. As a side note: I LOVED it when Toney busted Ruiz up inside when he tried the grappling tactics. That is the one fight were I saw Ruiz abandon his plan of grappling n dirty boxing.

Same with how Floyd broke Hatton down by showing his genius in the ring n slipping n countering between all of the grappling. Floyd fought a masterpiece that night.

[Master]

I think you are making a massive over generalisation and sounding like a bitter old man with rose tinted glasses.

[J_Undisputed]

How many heavyweights train to be fighters anymore? You have "athletes" that like using reach height and weight to beat up on smaller opponents and make it an easy night... then out of shape bouncers, doormen and security gaurds that like to waddle inside. The athletes have ability and the bouncers have power, but who has both the dedication and spirit to be a fighter anymore? To train to take someone apart without apparent thoughts to how much money theyre making, how much health they stand to lose, how much money they still owe on condo, political aspirations, their own promotional company, their padded record, the highlight reel, who got top billing, what they will say to the cameras.

The inside guys don't know a damn thing about range anymore. They chase, charge, hug and then try to tee off from a clinch. They're knot working to get there arms and elbows free anymore. Putting the top of their head in your chest and pushing off to make room to punch. The get hugged and start noogie and rabbit punching or start slow dancing, till the ref separates them.

The outside guys don't like being in range of a smaller guy so they clinch em and wait for the ref. It used to be a tall guy would step back in a clinch and unleash a hellish uppercut, and pop your head up for the straight/cross.Uppercuts now are reserved for lunging arm punches from mid range on an a winded, shelled opponents that have the muffs on.

You wont see fighters like marciano, tyson, frazier, etc. They knew what they were, they knew what their mission was once they got in the ring and they understood the importance of the results in validating their training. You never had old fighters say.. oh. it wasn't my night. They made it their night, because their soul purpose for being was to destroy the other guy and move on to the next one. This why I hate guys like floyd, hopkins, and other self promoting idiots talking about business and money and contracts and chasing geriatric milestones. Fight the damn fight, and keep your entrepreneurial crap to yourself. It's like a stripper in the middle of a lap dance, doing a two step because it makes it easier to tell you she "was really thinking about pursuing a career in medicine but she couldn't decide between gastroenterology or ....."

[brocktonblockbust]

i think you are making a massive over generalisation and sounding like a bitter old man with rose tinted glasses.

bullshit, my glasses have a mint-hue.

[ykdadamaja]

It's a byproduct of American society becoming more finesse and it has permeated through boxing and sports as a whole. Boxers don't want to get close and grind it out. 7ft basketball players want to linger around the 3pt line, NFL wide receivers don't want to block or come across the middle, etc.

Boys these days aren't being raised by construction workers and factory assembly men anymore.

No one wants to get their hands dirty anymore.... how sad.

[cyclone]

Marciano was garbage...he fought his own Brother....TWICE.....

[ykdadamaja]

Marciano was garbage...he fought his own Brother....TWICE.....

[brocktonblockbust]

Marciano was garbage...he fought his own Brother....TWICE.....