Jack Dempsey fought 61 times in 13 years

[brocktonblockbust]

Rocky Marcinao fought 49 times in 8 years.
Muhammad Ali, by comparison, fought 61 times in 18 years (not counting the 3 year layoff).
Larry Holmes fought 50 times in 13 years (up until his 2nd loss to Spinks and first retirement).
Evander Holyfield fought 56 times in 27 years.
MIke Tyson fought 56 times in 16 years (not counting the 4 year layoff 1991-1995)
Lennox Lewis fought 44 times in 14 years.
Vitali K fought 47 times in 16 years.

Deontay Wilder fought 32 times in 6 years--about the same rate as Tunney

[Master]

Therefore Wilder = Tunney.

[Max Power]

Interesting stuff.

A few simple things to point out here...

The lighter your opposition is, the more fights you can have (because you sustain less damage). and the more often you can fight against them.

The bummier your opposition is, the more often you fight against them too and the more you can have.

Hence older boxers having many fights, hence lower division boxers that have many more fights, hence bum busters like Wilder with such a high fight rate.

For example, it's obvious that someone like Ray Robinson or Archie Moore cannot have 200 fights at 200+, neither can they have this many fights against quality opponents.

For example, we will soon witness a current example with Deontay Wilder. His bum busting streak has about come to an end. A funny thing with the modern HW division is that you can, like the old days, bum your way to the top. But as soon as you step up to the plate, the media and the sanctioning bodies and the fans together will not allow you to go backwards.

Therefore, now that Wilder's level of competition is set to rise, expect to see him take more time preparing for his fights and his fight rate to drop significantly.

We seen it with Wladimir too. Objectively taken over whole career, Wladimir has one of the most frequent fight rates, despite only fighting 2 or 3 times a year now. This is because early in his career when he faced poorer comp, he racked them up very quickly.

[ykdadamaja]

Therefore Wilder = Tunney.

lololol..... Wilder is a ko away from being exposed. Mark my word.

[Max Power]

Therefore Wilder = Tunney.

lololol..... Wilder is a ko away from being exposed. Mark my word.

I agree, I think Wilder will be knocked out as soon as he takes a hard flush shot from any of these other hard punchers who also have real skills.

Wilder has no chin. And if any can drag him into deeper waters, no stamina either I don't reckon!

I hope it's Stiverne that does it. I back Stiverne to win by KO but acknowledge Wilder has something like a 1 in 3 chance too.

[Beanflicker]

Yeah and most of those fights were against other crappy, spoon fed white fighters.

Unless you tangle with the dark skinned like Marciano, Greb or Ketchel, you can't call yourself a champ!

[Master]

Therefore Wilder = Tunney.

lololol..... Wilder is a ko away from being exposed. Mark my word.

I agree, I think Wilder will be knocked out as soon as he takes a hard flush shot from any of these other hard punchers who also have real skills.

Wilder has no chin. And if any can drag him into deeper waters, no stamina either I don't reckon!

I hope it's Stiverne that does it. I back Stiverne to win by KO but acknowledge Wilder has something like a 1 in 3 chance too.

I have a feeling Wilder beats Stiverne.

[Max Power]

Therefore Wilder = Tunney.

lololol..... Wilder is a ko away from being exposed. Mark my word.

I agree, I think Wilder will be knocked out as soon as he takes a hard flush shot from any of these other hard punchers who also have real skills.

Wilder has no chin. And if any can drag him into deeper waters, no stamina either I don't reckon!

I hope it's Stiverne that does it. I back Stiverne to win by KO but acknowledge Wilder has something like a 1 in 3 chance too.

I have a feeling Wilder beats Stiverne.

Yeah and if that happens you can laugh at me all over again LOL @Master

[Master]

Therefore Wilder = Tunney.

lololol..... Wilder is a ko away from being exposed. Mark my word.

I agree, I think Wilder will be knocked out as soon as he takes a hard flush shot from any of these other hard punchers who also have real skills.

Wilder has no chin. And if any can drag him into deeper waters, no stamina either I don't reckon!

I hope it's Stiverne that does it. I back Stiverne to win by KO but acknowledge Wilder has something like a 1 in 3 chance too.

I have a feeling Wilder beats Stiverne.

Yeah and if that happens you can laugh at me all over again LOL @Master

That was the real reason you left last time.

[Max Power]

Nah, I wouldn't rip you off like that.

I always think if you can dish it, you can take it.

I was increasingly under the pump to get off this thing.

If I ever go missing again, it's not because I'm running from savage posts..

It's because the whip is getting cracked

[IamInuit]

Whats the point of this redundant horse shit? You dip shit millennials got anything else to talk about? 40 of those 61 were from 1915 through 1916. So what? Young Stribling fought 55 times in one fucking year.
And everyone already knows or assumes based on your time spent in existence that all of Striblings opponents were shit.

So STFU already.

[Max Power]

Whats the point of this redundant horse shit? You dip shit millennials got anything else to talk about? 40 of those 61 were from 1915 through 1916. So what? Young Stribling fought 55 times in one fucking year.
And everyone already knows or assumes based on your time spent in existence that all of Striblings opponents were shit.

So STFU already.

Ok. About this Stribling...

I don't even know the guy.

And I doubt there'd be any footage of him either, or atleast F/A of it.

So basically I would like to flip the script on you. You are not 120 years old yourself. So basically, you are promoting a fighter, YOU'VE NEVER EVEN SEEN! Atleast I promote fighters I watch! That is a typical thing with old timers from the OTNB community! "Old Time Nut Bags" in case you've forgotten

Now I haven't taken a look at the record of who these 55 guys this fella fought in 1 year yet, so I am extending myself on a limb here. But I am willing to bet, that even for the CRITERIA OF THE DAY, the greater part of these 55 were not QUALITY opponents.

Not even if they LOST against a lot of them, because they'd be too banged up!

I can say this with some self assurance because nobody can really have that many fights against quality opponents.

I'm not knocking this guy Stribling, he was obviously very tough for doing so. He must have loved to fight and been a very durable guy. But come on man! Let's not pretend he was fighting world beaters now!

[Master]

Yet you say Wlad fights world beaters like Leapai.

[Max Power]

Yet you say Wlad fights world beaters like Leapai.

I did not say Leapai was a world beater, he is obviously not. I just said he was not a bum!

[Beanflicker]

Leapia or whatever the fuck his name is isn't a great fighter by any stretch, but at least he's a full time professional fighter.

A lot of these fucking guys from the early 1900's - especially during the great depression - these were fucking dopes who didn't belong in the ring but were trying to earn a buck for their families. Yeah, it's admirable, and yeah, you have to hand it to them for their courage. But were they great fighters? Fuck no. Jesus Christ, I've seen Joe Louis roll over guys who weren't good enough to fight in a bar, let alone in the professional ring with a champion.

People want to get a hard on for historical guys and believe they were the greatest, they'd whip anyone, they were tougher, they never ducked anyone, blah blah blah. Like Leo Tolstoy said, “History would be a wonderful thing – if it were only true.”