Today In Biden Land

[SlimTrae]

Heading into the championship rounds of the election. Why not keep Democratic issues/questions/complaints/resolve/media treatment on one thread related to them and them alone.


No reason to use Trumpland for anything other than Issues related to him, his media, his answers. I have no problem keeping the incumbent's position on his thread and one for his challenger.

[Master]

The Trump thread is the best non-boxing thread ever. There will never be another one like it and maybe that is a good thing for you guys across the pond.

[SlimTrae]

In the World of Biden, his actions, votes seemed to have become a moot point when running for president. His son has been the focus. From shit that took place a few years ago.




What does this say about how Right wing investigates Democrats? Problems only matters if one his running for office? When I looked at who was bringing the issues up, seems the usual suspects; All Right Wing outlets.

one week away from election who would have thought these issues would not be discussed:
Joe Biden's positions on the war on terror. The deficit. The Wall. America's crumbling infrastructure. The 2nd failing policy for education (Common Core) preceded by the No Child Left behind Act.

The issues supposedly that impact Independents or no partisan voters like PAC Money, Term limits, Gerrymandering, working with Allies whom were referred to in the past 4 years as Incompetent, untrustworthy and indigant (Canada, France, Germany)

Instead what has made the news on whether or not the people should vote for Joe Biden is:
Hunter Biden
His gaffes (wrong names, dates cited)
Hunter Biden
Joe's age.
Hunter Biden.


Rudy G is a lawyer who felt the best way to get the issue in the open was 1. DONT TAKE IT TO THE GOVERNMENT AKA DOJ, SENATE, CONGRESS, FBI.
Take it to a Rupert Murdoch outlet via NYPOst.
Why? I thought media couldn't be trusted. How did the Post rate exempt status?
Here this chick Lisa Kennedy Montgomery from FOX is questioning similar and boy o boy does the Hunter Biden story get turned into a spat.
Rudy said this "20 sources confirmed the laptop/disc" whatever it was....I wonder who are the 20 sources the American people should trust?



How did we find that the worst thing to do is elect a president over issues of their children's issues dating back to 2014? How am I to respect a group, hell an entire demographic 6 F'n friggin years to investigate that which the socalled fake NY Timnes did...get this! Back in 2015.

https://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/09/w...iden-ties.html

[SlimTrae]

If we went in reel time- and we go back to 2015. What was the position of the people on the issue back then?
Joe Biden, His Son and the Case Against a Ukrainian Oligarch


Looking back it seems every nation, media (except right wing in USA) had a similar position on how it all began.
1. one of the issues on his agenda was to encourage a more aggressive fight against Ukraine’s rampant corruption and stronger efforts to rein in the power of its oligarchs. (to which the incumbent's team are cool with then Ukraine?)
2. the credibility of the vice president’s anticorruption message may have been undermined by the association of his son, Hunter Biden, with one of Ukraine’s largest natural gas companies, Burisma Holdings, and with its owner, Mykola Zlochevsky,


(STOP!) Does this sound like they are protecting Biden? Its not just labeled as a news piece, a editorial nor column it is their investigative journalist running this story.

3. Hunter Biden joined the Burisma board in April 2014 Again and we are now getting around to it. So serious we should consider not voting for his daddy over this.
4. Edward C. Chow questioned the involvement of the vice president’s son with Mr. Zlochevsky’s firm claimed it undermined the Obama administration’s anticorruption message in Ukraine.
5. Britain’s Serious Fraud Office, an independent government agency- were also involved- to which I question

Did the current administration corroborate with our Ally Britain in the uncovering of Biden corruption? Or is Britain far too corrupt, thus leaving the American people entrusting in Rupert Murdoch controlled operations?


Are we all around the planet earth supposed to denounce ALL media? ALl except FIX...I mean FOX
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-b1041498.html
An excerpt from link above:
The key thrust of the article is that an April 2015 email suggests Hunter Biden .... {STOP PLEASE!} Here we go again...from the year 2015. Damn Let me get this str8....had Joe Biden heeled over & croaked in 2016, 2017...He couldn't run for office. If in fact, then how else would this story have come to light?

Last part I'll quote :
How do we know the email is authentic?

We do not. The New York Post posted PDF printouts of several emails allegedly from the laptop, but for the “smoking gun” email, it shows only a photo made the day before the story was posted, according to Thomas Rid, author of Active Measures, a book on disinformation. “There is no header information, no metadata.”


So if one were to do a quick check on this story (on those who feel it is true) here is what one will see OAN News, SUSI, FOX, Breitbart, Alex Jones & of course NY Post...in other words the usual Anti-Democratic media.

FOX Tucker Carlson has gotten in on the story as a means to question if UPS somehow lost a package conveniently with the question; out of all the packages they get-how would they know which one to pick out as some smoking gun to out Hunter Biden? Hey see that one package there...must be a timebomb story in it...lets pretend to lose it open it, close it, return it. Damn - this is what the incumbent's voters are claiming.

And since the Independent UK claims this: "More broadly, the New York Post repeats the falsehood, advanced by Mr Trump, that the “elder Biden pressured government officials in Ukraine into firing a prosecutor who was investigating the company”.

Why not take them to court?! They call it like everyone is-False.

What many sources across the board seem to agree on:
1. Mr Biden was in charge of Ukraine portfolio & president, Petro Poroshenko to assist making reforms, minimize Russia's influence.
2. Viktor Shokin would be the obstacle to make it happen-labeled as a conduit for Ukraine's corrupt oligarchs.
3. Then VP Biden in 2015 used his leverage for the $1bn (£769.2m?) in loan guarantees only if reform occurs.
4. At this point few could find any influence or reason as to why/how Hunter would become a part of this deal.
5. Proof was VP Biden addressed Ukrainian parliament, decrying the “cancer of corruption” & punked the dude named Poroshenko-reform or no dough.
6. Pavlo Klimkin, Ukrainian foreign minister --was this dude quoted by the incumbent's team? right Wing News? Cause he said " firing of Mr Shokin was universally urged by Ukraine's benefactors. “The demand came not just from the US, and not just from Biden. I heard it in every meeting with the international financial institutions, especially the IMF and World Bank. It was not just Biden."

or is this guy Pavlo Klimkin fake as well? A Biden crony? Whats in it for him if so? Whats in it for all those who called on reforming the corrupt group that asked Biden to rail on, then did that. He assisted and threatened to hold $.


And how convenient that an avid Trump supporter, told reporters that a MacBook laptop was dropped off at his Wilmington, Del, shop in April 2019. Years later. Isn't that something! yeah right.
a copy of the hard drive was given to the right people. The Department of Justice! oh, nope I mean to the FBI! Uh, not so, it was given to Rudy tooty Cross dressin' Giuliani.

And here we are about to go to the polls with no issues discussed on how will Biden do on foreign & domestic policies.
No we are going to vote on how much cocaine his son used, how many jobs has he lost and most important a story investigated as far back as 2015 by EVERYBODY but right wing news. They just got around to it last year...when Biden outlasted Sanders

[SlimTrae]

The Trump thread is the best non-boxing fictional thread ever. There will never be another one like it and maybe that is a good thing for you guys across the pond.

Fixed it 4 ya!

[SlimTrae]

The Trump thread is the best non-boxing thread ever. There will never be another one like it and maybe that is a good thing for you guys across the pond.

All I can do is request of you. Even though you are unlikely to derail threads- any Biden talk, why not bring it here? Point isnt to make it a popular thread rather to see what exactly do the incumbent's supporters feels about him. Hundreds of pages and I know what they think about everyone & everything but his policies. I know they will defend him, but when it comes to policies all I can do is try to partition it for the world to see how regular people who find problems with Joe Biden are labeled as haters of a president.
As if no one is allowed to find fault with him because he is beyond fault. Therefore that thread will probably continue to be their bastion of all politics. General vague- lets discuss incumbent. Detailed, specific let us discuss Biden.

[Gandmiles]

[walrus]

Holy shit, Biden’s son, years ago, Giuliani. What the fuck why even bother. This is how they got us thinking now, this is truly fucked up shit

[walrus]

The Biden thread is just shoveling shit at trump, ha ha

Ha!

[walrus]

I have lost hope for my fellow man

[Gandmiles]

[Gandmiles]

You tell 'em Joe.

[Gandmiles]

[NoSavingByTheBell]

You tell 'em Joe.

To mobilize:

"......shoo-enna-der-NASHA-UPPITER-pressure!"

🤣😂😅😀😃😄.....🤭.....😶

[SlimTrae]

The Biden thread is just shoveling shit at trump, ha ha

Ha!

No it is not.
This thread actually gives links on when it began (2014)
who investigated it (NY Times)
Who did not investigate it (right wing)
What were the views of others (Brittain)
How did the investigation begin in the past year (Rudy)
who did he take it to (everyone but the govt)
Offer something constructive or leave the thread be. Why show up to type here what U type on Trump thread? Biden/Pelosi/Media...


Feel free to point which post, which sentence refers to the prez.take on issue.
None do.