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    Default Hopefully the last Valuev thread for a while

    Alright guys he beat Owen Beck by KO HOOPTY DAMN DOO! ....How would he fair vs everyone who doesn't SUCK?

    Wlad Klitschko

    Sergei Lyakhovich

    Hasim Rahman

    Chris Byrd

    Sam Peter

    Shannon Briggs

    Luan Krasniqi

    Joe Mesi

    Lamon Brewster

    Calvin Brock

    Sultan Ibragimov

    Timor Ibragimov

    If you don't know enough about a fighter to really compare the two then just skip it and feel free to add other fighters I may have left off

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    Default Re: Hopefully the last Valuev thread for a while

    Here's how I see the fights going

    Wladimir Klitschko flat out destroys Valuev TKO 5

    Lyakhovich outboxes the big ape

    Rahman...depends on which Rahman shows up the Hasim who beat down Meehan or the Rahman that couldn't hurt James "Two Ton" Toney

    Chris Byrd - I will say 7 out of 10 times Byrd will be on his game enough to make the giant Valuev look like a fool

    Sam Peter will eat the jab all night but I think once Valuev is hurt, since he's so big it's hard for him to really control what happens next so Sam can throw haymakers all night...what's he gonna do miss the 7 foot oaf that's standing right infront of him

    Briggs can outbox Valuev and maybe KO him

    Krasniqi...he might be able to beat him, he's a good boxer

    Joe Mesi can make Nico eat that left hook all day long

    Brewster punishes Valuev

    Brock could outbox him...I see this as the most even fight

    Sultan is small but he works the body so you have to give him a chance

    Timor I don't know enough about

    I think young up and coming "Fast" Eddie Chambers is going to be a handful for a lot of boxers out there

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    Default Re: Hopefully the last Valuev thread for a while

    joe mesi? no way.

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    Default Re: Hopefully the last Valuev thread for a while

    After watching Valuev dismantle Beck with consumate ease I'm confident he will be too strong for Wladimir.

    Wlad has one tactic, stay on the outside and use his jab. If his opponent comes inside he clinches and hugs, trying to squeeze the life out of his opponent.

    Well he would be able to do neither against Valuev, who I believe would simply turn the tables on Wladimir and beat him at his own game. We all know Klit's jaw is about as fragile as an Israeli Palestinian peace agreement whilst Valuev's neanderthal bone structure looks incredibly solid, his brain being encased in about an extra inch's worth of forehead ridge whilst his jaw shows hardly no evolutionary change from when it served to enable early man to chew their way through bark and to tear off strips of
    Wooly Mammoth flesh whilst the hapless elephant was still alive.

    Valuev to give Wladimr a bruising 5 round beat down

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    Default Re: Hopefully the last Valuev thread for a while

    i think he would beat mesi, i dont know about the others tho, i think he would get KTFO by most of them, maybee he could avoid brewster but the rest would eventually start landing, big vladdy is the only one who would make him look horrible

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    Default Re: Hopefully the last Valuev thread for a while

    Wlad, points decision. Everyone else knocked out or losing on a decision. Valuev would never be champion if there were decent heavyweights in his way, but right now there isn't anyone.

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    Default Re: Hopefully the last Valuev thread for a while

    Quote Originally Posted by bilbo
    After watching Valuev dismantle Beck with consumate ease I'm confident he will be too strong for Wladimir.

    Wlad has one tactic, stay on the outside and use his jab. If his opponent comes inside he clinches and hugs, trying to squeeze the life out of his opponent.
    You're an idiot

    Quote Originally Posted by squealpiggy
    Wlad, points decision. Everyone else knocked out or losing on a decision. Valuev would never be champion if there were decent heavyweights in his way, but right now there isn't anyone.
    So are you!

    Who's the hardest puncher Valuev has fought? Ruiz? Wlad has more power than ANYONE Valuev has fought and does big Nicky have trouble with boxers? YES! He had hella trouble with Larry Donald.

    You guys say Wlad can't fight big guys? When Jameel McCline was at his peak Wlad outboxed him and KO'd him.

    Wlad has fought the better opponents, he's younger, faster, has more power and is an all around better boxer.

    Valuev's record is SHIT

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    Default Re: Hopefully the last Valuev thread for a while

    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle
    Quote Originally Posted by bilbo
    After watching Valuev dismantle Beck with consumate ease I'm confident he will be too strong for Wladimir.

    Wlad has one tactic, stay on the outside and use his jab. If his opponent comes inside he clinches and hugs, trying to squeeze the life out of his opponent.
    You're an idiot

    Quote Originally Posted by squealpiggy
    Wlad, points decision. Everyone else knocked out or losing on a decision. Valuev would never be champion if there were decent heavyweights in his way, but right now there isn't anyone.
    So are you!

    Who's the hardest puncher Valuev has fought? Ruiz? Wlad has more power than ANYONE Valuev has fought and does big Nicky have trouble with boxers? YES! He had hella trouble with Larry Donald.

    You guys say Wlad can't fight big guys? When Jameel McCline was at his peak Wlad outboxed him and KO'd him.

    Wlad has fought the better opponents, he's younger, faster, has more power and is an all around better boxer.

    Valuev's record is S***
    Ok so Lyle what exactly is it that you find so goddam sexy about Wladimir Klitoris? Is it his soft milky smooth skin or his tight firm muscles that gets you so worked up?

    We all know that your presence on any thread can only mean one of two things, a) You are slagging off that racist, trash talking draft dodger Ali, or b) You are getting all giddy and excited whilst telling us just how great and altogether shag-a-licious big Wladdy is.

    You are more annoying than a bunch of Mikkel Kessler nuthugggers and about as predictable as Howard Eastman in a world title challange.

    We all know what you are and want to get a double facial from the Klitschko brothers


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    Default Re: Hopefully the last Valuev thread for a while

    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle
    Alright guys he beat Owen Beck by KO HOOPTY DAMN DOO! ....How would he fair vs everyone who doesn't SUCK?

    Wlad Klitschko

    Sergei Lyakhovich

    Hasim Rahman

    Chris Byrd

    Sam Peter

    Shannon Briggs

    Luan Krasniqi

    Joe Mesi

    Lamon Brewster

    Calvin Brock

    Sultan Ibragimov

    Timor Ibragimov

    If you don't know enough about a fighter to really compare the two then just skip it and feel free to add other fighters I may have left off
    You ask how would he do against guys who don't suck and then you list like 10 out of 12 guys who suck . The heavyweight division as a whole sucks lyle. 99% of the time it's scrub against scrub. Out of that list the only one who I feel 100% certain would beat Valuev is Wlad. i.e., Wlad is the only heavyweight in the world who doesn't suck.

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    Default Re: Hopefully the last Valuev thread for a while

    Lyle your Valuev posts are pathetic.


    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle
    Here's how I see the fights going

    Wladimir Klitschko flat out destroys Valuev TKO 5

    Lyakhovich outboxes the big ape

    Rahman...depends on which Rahman shows up the Hasim who beat down Meehan or the Rahman that couldn't hurt James "Two Ton" Toney

    Chris Byrd - I will say 7 out of 10 times Byrd will be on his game enough to make the giant Valuev look like a fool

    Sam Peter will eat the jab all night but I think once Valuev is hurt, since he's so big it's hard for him to really control what happens next so Sam can throw haymakers all night...what's he gonna do miss the 7 foot oaf that's standing right infront of him

    Briggs can outbox Valuev and maybe KO him

    Krasniqi...he might be able to beat him, he's a good boxer

    Joe Mesi can make Nico eat that left hook all day long

    Brewster punishes Valuev

    Brock could outbox him...I see this as the most even fight

    Sultan is small but he works the body so you have to give him a chance

    Timor I don't know enough about

    I think young up and coming "Fast" Eddie Chambers is going to be a handful for a lot of boxers out there
    Wow, thats some serious pre fight analysis right there, for a minute I thought Magnum was back
    When God said to the both of us "Which one of you wants to be Sugar Ray?" I guess I didnt raise my hand fast enough

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    Default Re: Hopefully the last Valuev thread for a while

    Quote Originally Posted by bilbo
    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle
    Quote Originally Posted by bilbo
    After watching Valuev dismantle Beck with consumate ease I'm confident he will be too strong for Wladimir.

    Wlad has one tactic, stay on the outside and use his jab. If his opponent comes inside he clinches and hugs, trying to squeeze the life out of his opponent.
    You're an idiot

    Quote Originally Posted by squealpiggy
    Wlad, points decision. Everyone else knocked out or losing on a decision. Valuev would never be champion if there were decent heavyweights in his way, but right now there isn't anyone.
    So are you!

    Who's the hardest puncher Valuev has fought? Ruiz? Wlad has more power than ANYONE Valuev has fought and does big Nicky have trouble with boxers? YES! He had hella trouble with Larry Donald.

    You guys say Wlad can't fight big guys? When Jameel McCline was at his peak Wlad outboxed him and KO'd him.

    Wlad has fought the better opponents, he's younger, faster, has more power and is an all around better boxer.

    Valuev's record is S***
    Ok so Lyle what exactly is it that you find so goddam sexy about Wladimir Klitoris? Is it his soft milky smooth skin or his tight firm muscles that gets you so worked up?

    We all know that your presence on any thread can only mean one of two things, a) You are slagging off that racist, trash talking draft dodger Ali, or b) You are getting all giddy and excited whilst telling us just how great and altogether shag-a-licious big Wladdy is.

    You are more annoying than a bunch of Mikkel Kessler nuthugggers and about as predictable as Howard Eastman in a world title challange.

    We all know what you are and want to get a double facial from the Klitschko brothers


    dear god help me! im having a f-ing heart attack! that was the funniest post ive seen in a long while! you guys good friends? HONESTLY i think Wlad would beat the living shat out of Nick. Wlad is way to fast for him. (please stop with the double facial stuff man! thats just sick! ) i cc you both but i burned them already.

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    Default Re: Hopefully the last Valuev thread for a while

    Quote Originally Posted by bilbo
    After watching Valuev dismantle Beck with consumate ease I'm confident he will be too strong for Wladimir.

    Wlad has one tactic, stay on the outside and use his jab. If his opponent comes inside he clinches and hugs, trying to squeeze the life out of his opponent.

    Well he would be able to do neither against Valuev, who I believe would simply turn the tables on Wladimir and beat him at his own game. We all know Klit's jaw is about as fragile as an Israeli Palestinian peace agreement whilst Valuev's neanderthal bone structure looks incredibly solid, his brain being encased in about an extra inch's worth of forehead ridge whilst his jaw shows hardly no evolutionary change from when it served to enable early man to chew their way through bark and to tear off strips of
    Wooly Mammoth flesh whilst the hapless elephant was still alive.

    Valuev to give Wladimr a bruising 5 round beat down
    And after watching Larry Donald beat the stuffing out of Valuev I have no doubt in my mind that he wouldn't have a chance against Wladimer

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    Default Re: Hopefully the last Valuev thread for a while

    I thought this was funny....

    "People underestimate Valuev. When he finishes learning combinations, like you saw tonight, he will be awesome," said Don King, who has a piece of the 32-year-old Russian. "He will unify the division."


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    Default Re: Hopefully the last Valuev thread for a while

    Quote Originally Posted by bilbo
    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle
    Quote Originally Posted by bilbo
    After watching Valuev dismantle Beck with consumate ease I'm confident he will be too strong for Wladimir.

    Wlad has one tactic, stay on the outside and use his jab. If his opponent comes inside he clinches and hugs, trying to squeeze the life out of his opponent.
    You're an idiot

    Quote Originally Posted by squealpiggy
    Wlad, points decision. Everyone else knocked out or losing on a decision. Valuev would never be champion if there were decent heavyweights in his way, but right now there isn't anyone.
    So are you!

    Who's the hardest puncher Valuev has fought? Ruiz? Wlad has more power than ANYONE Valuev has fought and does big Nicky have trouble with boxers? YES! He had hella trouble with Larry Donald.

    You guys say Wlad can't fight big guys? When Jameel McCline was at his peak Wlad outboxed him and KO'd him.

    Wlad has fought the better opponents, he's younger, faster, has more power and is an all around better boxer.

    Valuev's record is S***
    Ok so Lyle what exactly is it that you find so goddam sexy about Wladimir Klitoris? Is it his soft milky smooth skin or his tight firm muscles that gets you so worked up?

    We all know that your presence on any thread can only mean one of two things, a) You are slagging off that racist, trash talking draft dodger Ali, or b) You are getting all giddy and excited whilst telling us just how great and altogether shag-a-licious big Wladdy is.

    You are more annoying than a bunch of Mikkel Kessler nuthugggers and about as predictable as Howard Eastman in a world title challange.

    We all know what you are and want to get a double facial from the Klitschko brothers

    Quote Originally Posted by Memphis
    Lyle your Valuev posts are pathetic.


    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle
    Here's how I see the fights going

    Wladimir Klitschko flat out destroys Valuev TKO 5

    Lyakhovich outboxes the big ape

    Rahman...depends on which Rahman shows up the Hasim who beat down Meehan or the Rahman that couldn't hurt James "Two Ton" Toney

    Chris Byrd - I will say 7 out of 10 times Byrd will be on his game enough to make the giant Valuev look like a fool

    Sam Peter will eat the jab all night but I think once Valuev is hurt, since he's so big it's hard for him to really control what happens next so Sam can throw haymakers all night...what's he gonna do miss the 7 foot oaf that's standing right infront of him

    Briggs can outbox Valuev and maybe KO him

    Krasniqi...he might be able to beat him, he's a good boxer

    Joe Mesi can make Nico eat that left hook all day long

    Brewster punishes Valuev

    Brock could outbox him...I see this as the most even fight

    Sultan is small but he works the body so you have to give him a chance

    Timor I don't know enough about

    I think young up and coming "Fast" Eddie Chambers is going to be a handful for a lot of boxers out there
    Wow, thats some serious pre fight analysis right there, for a minute I thought Magnum was back
    Honestly guys, Ive got to agree with everything Lyle says. Valuev is awful, he doesnt generate enough power for his size and is too clumsy to deal with anyone half good. Who can you honestly say he's beaten Clifford Etienne? Owen Beck? Both awful. Apparantly he needed a gift to beat Ruiz, this guys beating noone.

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    Default Re: Hopefully the last Valuev thread for a while

    Yes! AC, Starr, 1stRound...I mean people who now rate Valuev because he beat Owen Beck are crazy. OWEN BECK people....he's not even on Kevin McBride's level much less that of even a Joe Mesi.

    Is it just me or are more people drinking the Don King Kool-Aid

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