i'm tired of hearing about margarito

[The Boxer]

i mean he's alright and everything but he's not all that. every sense he beat cintron(who) people keep bringin his name up as a person who might can beat PBF. i'm just not that impressed with margarito. i have hardly any intrest in seeing him fight.

[a harmful of swallows]

every sense that fight he busted out Shotgun Gomez and is about to layeth a beat down on Clottey. He may not be your favorite fighter, but as long as he keeps knocking out everyone in front of him he deserves his place as welterweight champ.

People discredit him because he's tougher than he is skilled and might not be good enough to beat PBFloyd. I'd like to see the smileyfaced laden posts if I suggested the same of sacred cows Hatton or Tszyu.

[SigmaMu]

i mean he's alright and everything but he's not all that. every sense he beat cintron(who) people keep bringin his name up as a person who might can beat PBF. i'm just not that impressed with margarito. i have hardly any intrest in seeing him fight.

You mean you are afraid to see him beat PBF right?
Don't worry, PBF will duck Margarito and Cotto will do PBF's dirty work.
You are gonna sit there and tell me that watching Margarito blast some dudes ear half off was not impressive? Nikku please!

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A little parody I made a couple of months ago

[AdamGB]

He got his WBO belt and now he thinks he is going to be able to talk his way to the top...

[El Gamo]

I'm tired of reading threads like this.....

[Purist]

I'm tired of reading threads like this.....

Then maybe Margarito should..I dunno... FIGHT SOMEBODY!!!

[AdamGB]

Nah... he deserves a shot at the best in the division because he has a paper belt... he is barely more deserving of a shot at Floyd than the WBU belt holder is...

Like I said he thinks he has his ABC belt to bargain with now, so he cna just talk his way to the top...

[El Gamo]

Nah... he deserves a shot at the best in the division because he has a paper belt... he is barely more deserving of a shot at Floyd than the WBU belt holder is...

Like I said he thinks he has his ABC belt to bargain with now, so he cna just talk his way to the top...

Or maybe the fact that he has not lost at the weight for years and has beaten more top 10 fighters as ranked by Ring Magazine than anyone else in the division? Maybe that would help?

[AdamGB]

Fraudley Harrison was undefeated in 20 fights... being undefeated means practically nothing

There are plenty of fighters who haven't lost because they have rarely fought outside of a class who could beat them.

[El Gamo]

Fraudley Harrison was undefeated in 20 fights... being undefeated means practically nothing

There are plenty of fighters who haven't lost because they have rarely fought outside of a class who could beat them.

Most thought Cintron would KO him and alot are choosing Clottey to beat him....

[AdamGB]

A lot of people fought that Jeff Lacy (another hyped, undefeated fighter) was going to KO Joe Calzaghe in 2-3 rounds at the most.

What's your point?

'Most people' don't know boxing outside of what a fight promoter, cable network or similarly clueless commentator says.

[El Gamo]

A lot of people fought that Jeff Lacy (another hyped, undefeated fighter) was going to KO Joe Calzaghe in 2-3 rounds at the most.

What's your point?

'Most people' don't know boxing outside of what a fight promoter, cable network or similarly clueless commentator says.

So Calzaghe deserves no credit then just like Margarito got no credit for beating Cintron? And your second point has no relevance to the discussion....I'm not "most people"

[AdamGB]

So if you are not 'most people' then what are you saying?

you thought those two fighters would beat Margarito? no you... you said most people... so it is entirely relevant. You are saying that the opinion of a lot of people prooves he has fought people good enough to beat him... I am showing you how wrong ' a lot of people' can be.

and no... Joe C. put on a brilliant performance... but jeff Lacy just wasn't in his League... he was hyped past his ability.

he deserves some credit... but it's not enough for him to call out Winky Wright and Floyd Mayweather and then accuse them of ducking him... simply because they don't have time for him... he is not in their class and has not fought enough people near their class to deserve a shot at them... that is why he is trying to talk his way up to them... he's ducking me... bla bla bla... Is he ducking Ishe Smith?

He doesn't hit as hard as Zab judah... He doesn't hit as quickly as Zab... He doesn't move as well... His work is cluttered... he is consently to close and hits out of range... his shots are wider than Zab's... Zab was midely dangerous for 4 rounds... Margarito wouldn't even be for that long.

[El Gamo]

So if you are not 'most people' then what are you saying?

you thought those two fighters would beat Margarito? no you... you said most people... so it is entirely relevant. You are saying that the opinion of a lot of people prooves he has fought people good enough to beat him... I am showing you how wrong ' a lot of people' can be.

and no... Joe C. put on a brilliant performance... but jeff Lacy just wasn't in his League... he was hyped past his ability.

he deserves some credit... but it's not enough for him to call out Winky Wright and Floyd Mayweather and then accuse them of ducking him... simply because they don't have time for him... he is not in their class and has not fought enough people near their class to deserve a shot at them... that is why he is trying to talk his way up to them... he's ducking me... bla bla bla... Is he ducking Ishe Smith?

He doesn't hit as hard as Zab judah... He doesn't hit as quickly as Zab... He doesn't move as well... His work is cluttered... he is consently to close and hits out of range... his shots are wider than Zab's... Zab was midely dangerous for 4 rounds... Margarito wouldn't even be for that long.

Your points lose relevance when you attempt to use Zab as a measuring stick. Zab has lost 4 of his 6 matches. Zab is also faster,more skilled,etc etc blah blah than Baldo,what happened there? and to say he does not hit as hard as Zab...how do you know? Margarito is a NATURAL WW. You've seen the difference in power between a blown up WW(Hatton/Gatti) and a natural WW(Collazo/Baldo). Also to base boxing purely on he does not move as well,he is cluttered etc etc....Margarito is stronger,bigger,throws more,has a better chin,hits as hard if not harder than Zab,can cut off the ring,jab,work the body,switch hit effectively etc etc.

Alot of great Mexican fighters did not have the basics on lockdown but there are other attributes which make a great fighter.Meldrick Taylor was infinitely faster and more skilled than Chavez etc etc. Heck look at your criticisms,alot of those can apply to Manny Pacquiao too except for the wide shots(and I don't believe you have seen enough of Margarito if you believe that he cannot throw straight shots).

As for your point about caling out,everyone deserves a shot to move up,if that did not happen,boxing would become stagnant. Like I said,he has beaten all those put in fron of him at WW,beaten more top 10 fighters than anyone else and still needs to do more and should not be calling people out?! How did Hatton get his shot at Tszyu? What did he do? How did Juarez get his shot? What did he do? I could go on all night..

[The Boxer]

i know i ain't read that cotto can beat PBF.