Taylor better straighten up!!!!!

**DaxxKahn** · 12-10-2006 09:06 PM

I was well should say am a fan of Jermain Taylor. I like most considered him the heir apparent to Hopkins. When he did beat Hopkins for the belt and won the rematch I was happy for him even though I am a huge B-Hop fan. Both Hopkins fights were dull. So was Wright but hey it is hard to look good against Wright and just to beat Hopkins was a great feat let alone twice. Last night Taylor should have dominated Ouma. He won yes but did not win in the fasion he should have against the smaller light hitting ouma. Taylor is also getting a little to full of himself.
This guy has the skill and potential to be not just good but great he IMO is not taking things as serious as he should. Taylor brtter go all out everytime. Instead he seems happy just squeeking by. I don't think he knows how fortunate he was to get past Wright. Last night at times Ouma showed flaws in Taylor. He came out tense and swinging wild. He settled down yes but it showed he has much to improve on. Will he take things seriously enough to realize this?
IMO he has the goods and the I think he is smart enough to he can be improved on. If he doesn't start taking it more serious a performance like last night could end up bad for him..........IMO Though he did win against Hopkins and Wright two great fighters someone who went in and went for the kill would right now at this point beat Taylor easy. EG. Trinadad would beat him IMO fairly easy.;
Just my opp

**Wacko3205** · 12-10-2006 09:10 PM

I was in about the same place that you were in until the Wright fight.

No shit...I was a huge fan of Taylor...& I still like the kid...but I just don't like the direction that he's headed in. He doesn't have the skills to box on the backfoot...which is what he appears to be trying to do...if not...then it's worse than I think & he just buckles under pressure after the 5th or 6th round & can do nothing more than back pedal.

El Kabong · 12-10-2006 09:16 PM

He has plenty of skill but he has the tightness of a pressure fighter which he's not. JT just tries to force things...he'll learn to settle down soon enough

**Counter** · 12-10-2006 09:32 PM

HE WAS POOR JC ALL THE WAY

**amat** · 12-11-2006 09:50 AM

Give him time. I've been one of his big critics and I really thought this would be a good performance from him but he is young. I can't write off the middleweight champion of the world just because he doesn't win the way we want him to.

**gyrokai** · 12-11-2006 09:55 AM

Not only is his skill not "up to par." .... Well actually, the only thing wrong about him, technically, IN MY VIEW... is his looping right hand, he ALWAYS misses it, telegraphs it.

That's no secret though.

I just don't like how he doesn't try to close the show in the final rounds, and I'm of the few that thinks he DOES have a few gas in the tank for the last rounds.

**Majesty** · 12-11-2006 09:30 PM

my thoughts on Jermain Taylor: http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxing_fo...c,39902.0.html

**Punisher136** · 12-11-2006 09:39 PM

Originally Posted by Majesty

Taylor also lacks balance on his front foot as Lennox pointed out a lot in the Wright fight.

Like I said when Chad Dawson or Jermain Taylor come up. They are manufactured fighters designed to catch your eye with their advantages at certain levels. They have problems that aren't going to be fixed because it's in their entire fighting style.

Jermain was manufactured to look spectacular on the come up, but when he faced all those experienced foes, and even Ouma he didn't look like he did before and the answer is because of the competition upping themself. People say he looked bad against Hopkins and Wright and that nobody looks good against them. Like I said its in his style, there was no excuse for Ouma who was a blown up 154 pounder. After how Karmazin looked against Ouma for Jermain to have such a tough time maybe Jermain isn't all he was hyoed up to be.

But this is the problem with boxing, they are so desperate for a superstar that they will force someone down your throat to convince you that they are better then they truly are.

it is sort of like when the NBA tried to convince us that LeBron was the next Jordan in his rookie year and the second coming of Magic Johnson

When they try to force a superstar down your throat and they don't deliver then they look ordinary, then you realise maybe they were always that way. But like the old saying goes "There's chinks in the armor, but look at that armor!!"

Same applies for fighters like Chad Dawson and Jermain Taylor and when the truth finally appears you wonder what happened to the fighters they were before now... nothing, and thats why they are manufactured, because nothing happened.

In all fairness lebron is very skilled and is the preseason favorite to win mvp. Taylor beat hopkins and drew with wright. I didn't see any of the hopkins fight but i heard it was controversial (what else is new). I watched the wright/taylor fight and i have to say i had it as a draw. Taylor's eye was closed from an accidental headbutt but other than that he was unharmed. Right now he's on top and only time will tell if he stays there.

**amat** · 12-11-2006 10:03 PM

I don't need David Stern to tell me that LeBron is going to be great, and is already great. Lebron is the real deal.

**gyrokai** · 12-11-2006 10:09 PM

Originally Posted by Majesty

Taylor also lacks balance on his front foot as Lennox pointed out a lot in the Wright fight.

Like I said when Chad Dawson or Jermain Taylor come up. They are manufactured fighters designed to catch your eye with their advantages at certain levels. They have problems that aren't going to be fixed because it's in their entire fighting style.

Jermain was manufactured to look spectacular on the come up, but when he faced all those experienced foes, and even Ouma he didn't look like he did before and the answer is because of the competition upping themself. People say he looked bad against Hopkins and Wright and that nobody looks good against them. Like I said its in his style, there was no excuse for Ouma who was a blown up 154 pounder. After how Karmazin looked against Ouma for Jermain to have such a tough time maybe Jermain isn't all he was hyoed up to be.

But this is the problem with boxing, they are so desperate for a superstar that they will force someone down your throat to convince you that they are better then they truly are.

it is sort of like when the NBA tried to convince us that LeBron was the next Jordan in his rookie year and the second coming of Magic Johnson

When they try to force a superstar down your throat and they don't deliver then they look ordinary, then you realise maybe they were always that way. But like the old saying goes "There's chinks in the armor, but look at that armor!!"

Same applies for fighters like Chad Dawson and Jermain Taylor and when the truth finally appears you wonder what happened to the fighters they were before now... nothing, and thats why they are manufactured, because nothing happened.

There will never be another Micheal Jordan. And as Larry Bird said, there will never be a Magic Johnson.

With that said, LeBron has some serious ball skills.

I like what you said, and agree. cc I don't think Jermain is very entertaining either. He only knows two punches, a jab and a looping right that almost always misses. Occasionally he remembers the uppercut.
He tires mentally too.

I like him outside of the ring.

Willing to accept fights and actually VERY competitive. Inside, he loses his competitiveness in the last two rounds IMO.... which can be thought as nit-picking. But I've never thought much of the middleweight division of today.

A Winky or Hopkins defense is "lucky" they won't ever deal with a Manny Pacquiao, Sandy Saddler, or a Jake LaMatta.... Hell the 147 division is full of dangerous volume/ or aggressive Punchers.